7010 Loader Plumbing Question
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Topic: 7010 Loader Plumbing Question
Posted By: CrestonM
Subject: 7010 Loader Plumbing Question
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2026 at 9:03am
I have a loader on my 7010 that currently runs off 2 remotes. In an effort to simplify control and free up the remotes, I’m adding a dedicated loader control valve and a joystick. Will I be able to T into the pressure line coming out of the piston pump to get my loader supply oil, or does the oil have to travel through the priority valve behind the cab first? I’m trying to make sense of what the book says about sending oil through the compensator line to stroke the pump, and it’s making me think I can’t tie in down by the pump, but I wanted to make sure. 
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Posted By: 8070nc
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2026 at 9:35am
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You need a closed center load sensing valve. You need to tee into the compensator line to stroke the pump. Where to send the return oil is the next question. Good luck with your project ------------- 1984 80780 1957 D14 DES 300 with 25000 engine 616 tractor |
Posted By: CrestonM
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2026 at 10:11am
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https://farmpartsstore.com/double-spool-sbaf2cc/?srsltid=afmbooo1zfgszj3xyc47a-osnvu78yfhgyp3suxpbjesgbquimhncbrj" rel="nofollow - https://farmpartsstore.com/double-spool-sbaf2cc/?srsltid=afmbooo1zfgszj3xyc47a-osnvu78yfhgyp3suxpbjesgbquimhncbrj This is the valve I have. Will it work? As far as the return, I was planning on running a hose back to the top sight glass unless there’s a better option. |
Posted By: 8070nc
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2026 at 11:01am
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Sorry but no sir. It has to be a load sensing valve that had a signal line to go to the compensator on the piston pump ------------- 1984 80780 1957 D14 DES 300 with 25000 engine 616 tractor |
Posted By: Michael V (NM)
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2026 at 11:18am
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I think it was Joe(TX) that covered this same thing several years ago, IIRC, surplus city has a compensated joy stick that works for this same application. I thought I saved it, but years and puter meltdowns, it's lost now,, Ya might search Joe's posts and eventually find it,, I was going to do this same thing to my 8010 with loader,, jus never found that "round to-it"
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Posted By: CrestonM
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2026 at 12:14pm
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All of this leads into another question, how would I go about adding an electric third function? I’m wanting to use my grapple with buttons on the joystick. Michael, I found the thread. I’ll see if I can find the valve they’re talking about. https://www.allischalmers.com/forum/8010-joystick_topic164855.html" rel="nofollow - https://www.allischalmers.com/forum/8010-joystick_topic164855.html |
Posted By: TedN
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2026 at 12:41pm
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https://youtu.be/bQMT4Uo9u9s?si=xKSOLH9IV-0-eSZp" rel="nofollow - https://youtu.be/bQMT4Uo9u9s?si=xKSOLH9IV-0-eSZp I found this video, installing an electric joystick valve. Ted ------------- 190XTD seriesIII, 190XTD seriesI, maroon belly 7000, 190XTD series??? project(or maybe parts) |
Posted By: Michael V (NM)
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2026 at 1:08pm
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You may jus hafta use one of the remotes for the grapple.. If ya need that one,, unplug it,, you prolly not gonna be using the loader and rear implements at the same time.. |
Posted By: CrestonM
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2026 at 1:24pm
| That is true, and it may come to that. Just figured if I was going to do it, I’d do it as best I could. Going to be using the grapple a lot this summer and fall so the convenience of the electric third function would be nice. |
Posted By: 8070nc
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2026 at 3:37pm
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You could get a 3 spool valve insted if a 2 spool and get a single cable actuator handke and mount it close to your joystick. I think bunker hill cables could help you with that ------------- 1984 80780 1957 D14 DES 300 with 25000 engine 616 tractor |
Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2026 at 3:56pm
| If you choose to return oil thru a sight-glass....use the LOWER one. Keep the oil level up to the top sight-glass. |
Posted By: CrestonM
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2026 at 6:32pm
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http://agpartsdirect.com/products/closed-center-3-spool-sectional-valve?srsltid=AfmBOorvyJVDBRtmN5JARcVnHayLNSpFmO_xjsRq06v_grEUxdE70Z3s" rel="nofollow - http://agpartsdirect.com/products/closed-center-3-spool-sectional-valve?srsltid=AfmBOorvyJVDBRtmN5JARcVnHayLNSpFmO_xjsRq06v_grEUxdE70Z3s
Would this be the valve I need? Closed center with load sense.
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Posted By: 8070nc
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2026 at 7:38pm
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Creston if i was you id call them and specify a valve like you want. They can build one with sections to do what you want. That valve is showing one spool with one type of detent and another with a different detent. Another spool is electrically operated. I dint know how you want to operate the valve whether it is a joystick operating cables for the boom and bucket and electric for the grapple or cables for all three. It says it has a float position which id want for at least the main boom on the loader. I hope that helps some ------------- 1984 80780 1957 D14 DES 300 with 25000 engine 616 tractor |
Posted By: CrestonM
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2026 at 9:50pm
| Yes, that does help. I like the 3rd function being electric, that’s what I want for my grapple since my joystick has the buttons and wires for it already. The loader and bucket functions will be cable control. I’ll give them a call hopefully tomorrow if I get a chance and surely something can be put together. |
Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2026 at 10:14pm
| Your hydraulic pump is 23 GPM. So, as much $$$$ as you are spending, I'd prefer a valve that is larger than 21.1 GPM capacity. |
Posted By: CrestonM
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2026 at 10:31pm
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I'll make a few calls to some different parts suppliers. As I'm sure it's obvious, this type of work is new to me, but I want to do it once and do it right. |