Forgotten Industrial Giant: The Allis-Chalmers Sto
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Category: Allis Chalmers
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Topic: Forgotten Industrial Giant: The Allis-Chalmers Sto
Posted By: Coke-in-MN
Subject: Forgotten Industrial Giant: The Allis-Chalmers Sto
Date Posted: 22 Dec 2025 at 11:33am
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https://americanbusinesshistory.org/forgotten-industrial-giant-the-allis-chalmers-story/
If you have not seen some of the stories of businesses this site has some good information https://americanbusinesshistory.org/" rel="nofollow">  ------------- Life lesson: If you’re being chased by a lion, you’re on a horse, to the left of you is a giraffe and on the right is a unicorn, what do you do? You stop drinking and get off the carousel. |
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Posted By: Kcgrain
Date Posted: 22 Dec 2025 at 2:30pm
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Its great they keep the Allis Chalmers name alive by writing these articles, but when little research is done, and they try to summarize a company as big and diverse and rich in history as Allis Chalmers was, it does more harm then good. This article seems to use the same history as the AI generated BS that plays on Youtube. Its so vague, and filled with non facts, its not worth reading. Just my opinion
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Posted By: Coke-in-MN
Date Posted: 22 Dec 2025 at 10:06pm
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The publisher of this site gives basic information on not just AC but many businesses , it's kind of a primer for one to ask more questions and research oneself Original published a few years back before AI was the answer for everything . ------------- Life lesson: If you’re being chased by a lion, you’re on a horse, to the left of you is a giraffe and on the right is a unicorn, what do you do? You stop drinking and get off the carousel. |
Posted By: Kcgrain
Date Posted: 23 Dec 2025 at 9:34am
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Evidently AI is using this article as fact than, because it not accurate. For example at its peak Allis Chalmers had over 60,000 employees, the plant in west Allis had over 30,000. Allis Chalmers didn't run 4th to Case, when they started making tractors that was true, but into the late 60's until the demise Allis Chalmers ran number 3. Allis Chalmers downfall wasn't because they were so diversified , per se, or because they didn't dominate the industries they were in. Pretty sure Mercedes doesn't dominate the car industry, or Rolls Royce, so that thinking is completely wrong. Reading these articles just proves to me, there was very little if any research done, into the matter.
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Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 23 Dec 2025 at 4:35pm
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I thought it was a pretty good article, with a lot of old photos... They said 30,000 employees in 1950... NOT at its peak...... lots of opinions on WHY Allis fell apart.. I dont think you can say anyone is completely RIGHT or WRONG... There were MULTIPLE screwups / timing / govt input that lead to the downfall..... For someone looking to get an "IDEA" of what happened to ALLIS, the article would give them a good idea.. ------------- Like them all, but love the "B"s. |
Posted By: Coke-in-MN
Date Posted: 24 Dec 2025 at 8:11pm
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One of the big parts of AC gamble was in the Oil Shale drive , it set up to produce much of the equipment needed to advance that industry - Then that industry went BUST in the US as the Oil Shortage became a full Government smoke and mirror creation . Gearing up both that business and the construction equipment business taxed finances for AC as it also did for others like IH which sold of it's Heavy Equipment side of business to Dresser, and AC went into joint venture with Fiat . AC also ventured with Siemens in the Electrical controls and equipment ------------- Life lesson: If you’re being chased by a lion, you’re on a horse, to the left of you is a giraffe and on the right is a unicorn, what do you do? You stop drinking and get off the carousel. |