Front Rims:
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Topic: Front Rims:
Posted By: Codger
Subject: Front Rims:
Date Posted: 08 Jun 2025 at 10:16pm
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I need to upsize the front rims on my tractor. Originals are 4.5" wide and thinking I need 6.0" width. I changed front tires from 6.50", to 7.50" and used the original rims. My original rims have a much heavier center to them than the replacements I've seen online. Also six welded webs to the rim opposed to four I've seen, and shown here: https://www.agrisupply.com/on-bolt-circle-wheel/p/40941/" rel="nofollow - https://www.agrisupply.com/on-bolt-circle-wheel/p/40941/ I don't have a loader and not planning to install one, but do carry three suitcase weights always on the front and mow ditches, etc. I went with Firestone four rib, eight ply tires in F-2 pattern in memory serves and with the way they are "rounded" through the tread really cut into the grass upon turning. I'd like to flatten the tires out as they should be. Anybody have recommendations to call for obtaining good quality rims? I'm not opposed to sending these to a place in California I've used in the past to make what I'm wanting; if that is the only option. They would reutilize the original centers installing with the offset needed. My old Clark TLB has bent agriculture rims on the steer axle and someone prior to my ownership installed those so I've seen the result of too light duty of rim for the application.
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Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 08 Jun 2025 at 10:38pm
most of the 6x16x6 rims are 2800# rated..... they alsos make a 3500# rim.. actually cheaper ?? ------------- Like them all, but love the "B"s. |
Posted By: TedN
Date Posted: 08 Jun 2025 at 11:04pm
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I just recently went the other direction - had 16 x 8 wheels with 7.50-16 tires on my 190XT, I bought a pair of 16 x 6 wheels (3500#) and the tires look much better on the proper wheel. The fresh paint looks a little nicer too. If the outfit in California that you dealt with before was Stockton Wheel I heard the building burned down and they didn't rebuild. Our current supervisor at work was the store manager at Stockton Les Schwab (tire store) less than a year ago, and Stockton Wheel came up in a discussion at work last week. ------------- 190XTD seriesIII, 190XTD seriesI, maroon belly 7000, 190XTD series??? project(or maybe parts) |
Posted By: Gary Burnett
Date Posted: 09 Jun 2025 at 3:17am
| I have used New Holland round baler rims with no problem on the front of a couple tractors,they are a heavy rim.The one set is on the front of an AC 185 that I had a loader on for awhile and the other is an Oliver 1365 with a loader I use to mover round bales. |
Posted By: WF owner
Date Posted: 09 Jun 2025 at 5:27am
| Hey Wheel ( https://heywheel.com/page17.html" rel="nofollow - DROP CENTER WHEELS ) has 16" x 6" - 3500 lb. rims for $95. |
Posted By: Codger
Date Posted: 09 Jun 2025 at 6:12am
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I do believe it was Stockton Wheel but haven't been in the files to verify. Had them install 7.5X15 larger rims onto my 4.0" bolt circle Chrysler "A" body wheels for my Barracuda. My front rims have a very deep negative offset to them. Almost 5.0" with a tape measure and seems a bit of an oddity. Inside sidewall of tires clear top of king pins by about 1/2" on each side. There was more clearance with the original 6.50X16 three rib tires, but not a lot. I'll grab photos later today and post. Thanks for the help.
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Posted By: 560Dennis
Date Posted: 09 Jun 2025 at 6:41am
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How many lug is that 4.5 and hud diameter . I m not farmilar with the application cuase im looking for 2plow wheels 4.5 wide 16 . To share I get new rims from Aaron Wenger in New Holland ,Pa. Got five acres of rims , Called and leave message ,rare they pick up. If you go there you will see why 'probably loading two or three trucks. Biggest inventory east of the Mississippi.They have it
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Posted By: Codger
Date Posted: 09 Jun 2025 at 6:47am
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These are a 6X6 bolt circle pattern. I don't know the hub diameter but will probably remove a wheel this morning and measure parameters. ------------- That's All Folks! |
Posted By: 8070nc
Date Posted: 09 Jun 2025 at 9:05am
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What is wenger phine number please ------------- 1984 80780 1957 D14 DES 300 with 25000 engine 616 tractor |
Posted By: 560Dennis
Date Posted: 09 Jun 2025 at 9:33am
Aaron Wenger Systems
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Posted By: im4racin
Date Posted: 09 Jun 2025 at 12:50pm
| Try http://www.agwheelsexpress.com" rel="nofollow - www.agwheelsexpress.com |
Posted By: 8070nc
Date Posted: 09 Jun 2025 at 2:07pm
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Thanks ------------- 1984 80780 1957 D14 DES 300 with 25000 engine 616 tractor |
Posted By: orangeman
Date Posted: 14 Jun 2025 at 1:22pm
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Codger: I went through a similar exercise with our AC 621 Forklift. When it was purchased new it had 6.50 x 16 " rims on it with 7.50 x 16" tires mounted on them ~ same rim and tire setup as an D17. I didn't care for the "cutting in" on my yard area so solved it with a 10" x 16" rim blank and had the centers machined to fit the blank. The blank and center was supplied by M.E. Miller Tire Company of Wauseon, Ohio - see link here: - https://www.millertire.com/" rel="nofollow - https://www.millertire.com/ I mounted 11L x 16" Goodyear Laborer 12 ply on it and never looked back! While my situation was different from yours - you get the idea!? HTH's ~ Orangeman
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Posted By: TedN
Date Posted: 14 Jun 2025 at 3:44pm
   Hopefully I figured out this picture thing. I noticed a lot of difference in the four rib tire profile, took pictures this morning. Not quite a fair comparison, the Firestone is older and has some wear, other two have been put on in the last six months - in order Firestone, Crop Max, and Galaxy, all 10.00-16 tires on 8x16 wheels. I usually just get whatever is cheapest online, but I think I am going to start looking for the Galaxy when I order. Between my brother and I, we have four tractors that use the same front tire so I try to keep a spare laying around.------------- 190XTD seriesIII, 190XTD seriesI, maroon belly 7000, 190XTD series??? project(or maybe parts) |
Posted By: TedN
Date Posted: 14 Jun 2025 at 4:21pm
I went back and looked, my front wheels were through Quality Farm Supply, $93 each delivered. I"m happy with them, but mostly just pull a baler so I don't require much. ------------- 190XTD seriesIII, 190XTD seriesI, maroon belly 7000, 190XTD series??? project(or maybe parts) |
Posted By: SteveM C/IL
Date Posted: 15 Jun 2025 at 12:12am
| Izat a loader engine? Looks like my 545B. |
Posted By: TedN
Date Posted: 15 Jun 2025 at 12:34am
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Honestly don't know what it is other than 2900 Mark II. It was installed when I bought it at auction 35 years ago. The hydraulic pump drive looks like it belongs on the engine, so loader would be my guess. Been thinking about starting a thread on it. ------------- 190XTD seriesIII, 190XTD seriesI, maroon belly 7000, 190XTD series??? project(or maybe parts) |