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Doctor Allis Plowing near Central City Ia., spring

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Topic: Doctor Allis Plowing near Central City Ia., spring
Posted By: IBWD MIke
Subject: Doctor Allis Plowing near Central City Ia., spring
Date Posted: 14 Apr 2025 at 6:47am
Here's a link to the good Dr. plowing this spring.  https://youtu.be/2z07n5ManPY?si=zg2noy-p8r-yZ7eV" rel="nofollow - https://youtu.be/2z07n5ManPY?si=zg2noy-p8r-yZ7eV



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Posted By: sparky
Date Posted: 14 Apr 2025 at 8:56am
Music to my ears!

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It's the color tractor my grandpa had!


Posted By: Dennis J OPKs
Date Posted: 14 Apr 2025 at 9:24am
I remember when the 45's came out.  There were numerous Allis farms in our area (Eastern NE).  I was outside and heard a neighbor, probably 1/4 mile away, plowing.  I know that sound and it's not a WD.  Sure enough, probably the first one in our area.  Spent many an hour doing that with Dad's later 45.  Probably the reason my hearing is not good.  No protection in those days.


Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 14 Apr 2025 at 9:38am
I can remember coming in the house for supper, after running 2 tanks of gas thru Dad's WD-45 plowing, and still hearing the engine in my ears !!


Posted By: WF owner
Date Posted: 14 Apr 2025 at 10:41am
I love to watch videos like this. Whoever struck out those lands goes straighter than I do! Sounds like the Traction Booster is working.


Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 14 Apr 2025 at 10:54am
And unfortunately, there are those who say Traction Booster wasn't any good. I'm sure there are/were some not adjusted properly. And maybe some simply not used correctly. I can guarantee if I shut mine off, the tractors land wheel was immediately scratching for traction. It was pretty obvious when I first started out that the land wheel was having a problem. It took me probably 100 ft to get her dialed in and I could then go all the way across the nearly 1/2 mile distance and never change the lever. This tractor has no fluid in the rear tires. I do hang 900 lbs of suitcase weights under the belly just ahead of the rear wheels. It helps tremendously, but still not nearly as good as 900 lbs in the rear tires themselves.


Posted By: AC7060IL
Date Posted: 14 Apr 2025 at 12:39pm
Your video’s clock records your plow being dropped into furrow at 0:20 seconds for that pass. When you complete that plow pass, the clock reads 4:47 mins.
So that pass took 267 seconds. If pass was 2500’(2620’-120’turnrows?), then WD45’s speed averaged ~ 6.4mph?


Posted By: JoeM(GA)
Date Posted: 14 Apr 2025 at 12:50pm
Sweet!, now that’s a field!

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41 WC,48 UC Cane,7-G's,
Ford 345C TLB


Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 14 Apr 2025 at 1:31pm
I'll have to stop back sometime and set the trip odometer and see if it is or isn't nearly half a mile. Realistically I'd say traveling 4 to maybe 4.2 MPH.


Posted By: ACinSC
Date Posted: 14 Apr 2025 at 2:44pm
Enjoyed the video. I'm ready for some seat time on my D 15. Thanks


Posted By: Les Kerf
Date Posted: 14 Apr 2025 at 2:58pm
Originally posted by DrAllis DrAllis wrote:

I can remember coming in the house for supper, after running 2 tanks of gas thru Dad's WD-45 plowing, and still hearing the engine in my ears !!

TWO tanks of gas back-to-back! Shocked Wheeeeee!!! Cool


Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 14 Apr 2025 at 3:27pm
15 gallon tank. 3.5 GPH at full load.  When you got 4+ hrs run time on it  (plowing) you better be heading for the house to refuel.


Posted By: JPG AUSTRALIA
Date Posted: 14 Apr 2025 at 6:02pm
Looking and sounding good! Nice video.


Posted By: AC7060IL
Date Posted: 14 Apr 2025 at 6:09pm
Originally posted by DrAllis DrAllis wrote:

I'll have to stop back sometime and set the trip odometer and see if it is or isn't nearly half a mile. Realistically I'd say traveling 4 to maybe 4.2 MPH.
Ok, then 4.2mph would equate to a 1645’ plow pass. Tractordata,com says 3rd gear, 12x28 rears, 1400 engine rpms = 5mph. But IF engine rpms are 1800rpms = 6.4 mph with 12x28s.


Posted By: Lars(wi)
Date Posted: 14 Apr 2025 at 7:19pm
Beautiful soil.
With fields like that, and todays yields, sure wouldn’t want anything larger that 2 or 3 row corn head on a combine. Otherwise wise will have wagons parked at both ends.

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I tried to follow the science, but it was not there. I then followed the money, and that’s where I found the science.


Posted By: Les Kerf
Date Posted: 14 Apr 2025 at 7:37pm
Originally posted by DrAllis DrAllis wrote:

15 gallon tank. 3.5 GPH at full load.  When you got 4+ hrs run time on it  (plowing) you better be heading for the house to refuel.

I have done some plowing and field work (nowhere near what you have done) with an Allis WD and also with a 1941 John Deere model A. The WD is significantly more powerful and will plow more in a day, but the Johnny Popper is a whole bunch more tolerable to ride and to listen to. They both have steel seats.


Posted By: jvin248
Date Posted: 14 Apr 2025 at 8:18pm
Originally posted by DrAllis DrAllis wrote:

I'll have to stop back sometime and set the trip odometer and see if it is or isn't nearly half a mile. Realistically I'd say traveling 4 to maybe 4.2 MPH.


An old AC or maybe Farmall dealer video listed the acres per day their various models and tasks could take from plowing, disking, planting, chopping, to harvesting.  I occasionally try finding it again but no success. It would be great to show that for antique to new tractors and equipment they handle.

If you have four to six weeks to plant, say corn, a two/four/six row planter covers a lot of acres between rains and frost.

More should look at seat time to debt ratio.

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Posted By: Leon B MO
Date Posted: 14 Apr 2025 at 8:28pm
Very nice post. As I was watching the video and seeing the length and width of that field and see the lands set, I thought,"Doc's gonna be there a while. Hope you have some help!" Beautiful farm, dirt looks like it plowed perfect. How many acres in that field?
Leon B Mo

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Uncle always said "Fill the back of the shovel and the front will take care of itself".


Posted By: DaveKamp
Date Posted: 14 Apr 2025 at 9:16pm
Originally posted by DrAllis DrAllis wrote:

I can remember coming in the house for supper, after running 2 tanks of gas thru Dad's WD-45 plowing, and still hearing the engine in my ears !!


My grandfather pulled his plows through the Iowa River bottomland just north of Marengo, and from the time he quit farming, 'till the day he passed away, I'm pretty certain he was still hearing the D17 growling in his ears...

Your WD sure sounds balanced on all four cylinders.  I gotta pull the manifold off my Series 1 and reflatten the ports, I'm getting leakage out that #1 end (usual suspect)... but it's burning quite a bit of oil... so probably should drop in an in-frame kit and new bottom end inserts next time I pull that head...


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Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 14 Apr 2025 at 9:36pm
I went back tonite and used my trip odometer to get a better feel for the length of that particular field. In these parts things are by the square mile and fields are usually 1/4 mile or 1/2 mile long etc. Well, somewhere in the last 100 yrs this farm was changed for some reason, as fence to fence it was .4 of a mile in length. Not the usual 1/2 mile that I assumed it was. When I tried to calculate the long headlands we had I think we actually plowed 1800 ft in one pass in almost 5 minutes time. That figures right at 4 MPH, which is what I thought thru gear ratios, tire size and engine speed I was probably running. The up and down hills seemed to make it farther and I guess would add to footage distance, but anyway it wasn't a full 1/2 mile as I thought from fence to fence. Regardless, it was a fun Saturday morning !!!  The kingpin of the project said there was 24 acres. There were 12 tractors and plows. We started at 9 am and were done by noon. I was done with my land by 10:15 or so, and just let the others have their fun time with the rest of the field. We also had a local TV station show up and did a story on the plowing "bee" and we were on the 6 and 10 PM news Saturday night......all 44 seconds worth !! My tractor was fortunate to get some pretty good screen time during the TV spot. Again...A GOOD DAY !!


Posted By: WF owner
Date Posted: 15 Apr 2025 at 5:24am
Originally posted by DrAllis DrAllis wrote:

We also had a local TV station show up and did a story on the plowing "bee" and we were on the 6 and 10 PM news Saturday night......all 44 seconds worth !! My tractor was fortunate to get some pretty good screen time during the TV spot. Again...A GOOD DAY !!

Do you have a link to the video from the TV station or which station it was, so we can look up their website to see if we can find it?


Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 15 Apr 2025 at 6:05am
I got it to come up just now. I'm sure they will be taking it down soon. Google:     "Vintage tractors plow through time at Central City's old-time farming event"       KGAN  CBS2 is the channel. So, look quickly. Like I say they don't leave these posted forever it seems.


Posted By: WF owner
Date Posted: 15 Apr 2025 at 7:09am
https://cbs2iowa.com/news/local/vintage-tractors-plow-through-time-at-central-citys-old-time-farming-event" rel="nofollow - Vintage tractors plow through time at Central City's old-time farming event


Posted By: orangeman
Date Posted: 15 Apr 2025 at 8:43am
It amazes me to see the wonderful American Farmland with such splendor!  On top of that an amazing AC tractor plowing, in perfect working order!  Great video Dr. Allis!!!

~ Orangeman


Posted By: Ted J
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2025 at 6:15am
Beautiful old tractors and plows and good friends enjoying the day and having fun!
Thanks for sharing!


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"Allis-Express"
19?? WC / 1941 C / 1952 CA / 1956 WD45 / 1957 WD45 / 1958 D-17


Posted By: wjohn
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2025 at 9:51pm
I hope I can get one of my WD45s plowing half that well!

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1939 B, 1940 B, 1941 WC, 1951 WD, 1952 CA, 1956 WD-45


Posted By: Nathan (SD)
Date Posted: 17 Apr 2025 at 8:47pm
It has been a long time since I heard a WD45 work all day. Last was the 4 row cultivator in the 80s.

They are on hay and wagon duty around here now. They still put in full days at some times but nothing like that plow.

My dad would go out in the morning to cultivate. Lunch time was when he came back to the yard to refill the gas tank. After the second tank, it was chore time.


Posted By: WF owner
Date Posted: 18 Apr 2025 at 7:40am
A lot of us have progressed through life from the WD45 being the "big tractor" on the farm to a tractor that some people think isn't big enough to plow or do other jobs. I remember when the WD45 did the plowing, ran the chopper (either a direct-cut or one row corn head) and all the other big jobs. I remember Dad telling me the WD45 was too big to rake with and making me use the WD.


Posted By: Driverdan
Date Posted: 18 Apr 2025 at 9:53am
I really enjoyed the video !! My dad bought a WD45 new in 1955 with a 3bottom 14inch SC plow. I logged a lot of hours in that seat over the years. Great memories, thank you Doctor! ( I am 78, still on same farm and have that same tractor and still use its but haven't plowed with it in many years)


Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 18 Apr 2025 at 3:53pm
We went from a 1955 WD-45 4-bolt WF that Dad bought used in probably 1957 or 58, to a Series 4 D-17 gas in the Fall of 1967. We never had an hour meter on anything until we got the series 4. For the first 7 years of it's life it got 700 to 800 hrs a year put on it. It did EVERYTHING. When Dad bought the 200 in the Fall of 1975, the D-17 had 6,000 hrs on it. My brother still has the series 4.


Posted By: JC-WI
Date Posted: 18 Apr 2025 at 4:42pm
Dad bought a WD45 and 3x14 plow in 1964. Had left the farm early in the morning and had plans of bringing home a D17, but when getting to kenyon, the and looked over the 17, and oil pressure dropped, he told the fellows he wasn't buying it. And then left for Nerstrand mn to see what they had. They had a pretty straight WD45 that they were getting ready to clean it up and check it out and do what it needed and then paint it. Well, dad made a deal with them and they hooked the 45 to the dyno and opened the throttle up and they adjust carb and the ignition till it was running more hp than the average 45 would.  It left the mechanics scratching their heads to why that would be. anyways they load the 45 on the truck and the plow and tossed in all the parts and paint that they were going to do to it. Dad came home and I was a little dissappointed  with it not being a D17.  Dad backed the old truck into the ditch and pulled out the white Oak planks and drove it off the truck, sure sounded good.   He talked to the local Allis deal in Falun Wi and he would steam clean it and replace the parts that came with it and paint it. That seemed like a long month but then when we went to get the tractor, it looked AWESOME!!! Had the newer orange paint with Cream center wheels and silver rims... and decaled.  Looked like it was brand new.   
 Anyways, about 9 years ago I took the head off to replace the head gasket and found out why the old 45 had more power than the others, M&W over-bore pistons are in it.

  As for the traction boosters on the WD tractors since they did not have a TB gauge to look at, dad would put his left foot down on the lift arm shaft and feel the amount of vibrations it would have from the hydraulics and dialed it in that way while plowing.

Like the slat moldboard plows, we had a semi-mounted 3x14 till wore the slats out, pulled a lot easier than the solid moldboard.  Our ground can be pretty tough some times since it is between gray and blue clay.   2x14 was all a WD could handle in first gear sometimes... other times could pull 3x14 in second gear... just depended on soil moisture and conditions.  


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He who says there is no evil has already deceived himself
The truth is the truth, sugar coated or not. Trawler II says, "Remember that."


Posted By: CA13414
Date Posted: 18 Apr 2025 at 5:17pm
Awesome video, that was fun to watch!! They did a great job with the drone!!

Love the varying engine noise with the the traction boost. Didn't really pick that up the first time.

I does remind me of running our two bottom rollover plow with our JD 70 Diesel. :')

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Helping the aged survive and thrive! 1953 CA



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