Something you do not see every day...
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Topic: Something you do not see every day...
Posted By: DSeries4
Subject: Something you do not see every day...
Date Posted: 22 Mar 2025 at 8:34pm
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A one owner 1963 D15 Series 2 DIESEL. Stored inside every night. Factory 3 point with top link. Engine rebuilt 10 years ago. Injectors and pump done 4 years ago. Runs great with no smoke. Original Nelson muffler. Downsides: lots of leaks, some dents, wiring is a mess and a lot of "farmer fixes" as I like to call them - some are shown below. Things will improve over time though. Owner #2 is getting acquainted with it, but likes it! Question for discussion: That toolbox on the left fender. I swear it is original, but it is shorter than others, with no hole in either end. Has anyone come across one like this?      The toolbox...  Farmer Fixes ...      ------------- '49 G, '54 WD45, '55 CA, '56 WD45D, '57 WD45, '58 D14, '59 D14, '60 D14, '61 D15D, '66 D15II, '66 D21II, '67 D17IV, '67 D17IVD, '67 190XTD, '73 620, '76 185, '77 175, '84 8030, '85 6080 |
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Posted By: DougG
Date Posted: 22 Mar 2025 at 8:41pm
| WOW, someone was crafty!! Is the shifter supposed to be like that? |
Posted By: PaulB
Date Posted: 22 Mar 2025 at 8:44pm
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That short toolbox is for a D10/12 ------------- If it was fun to pull in LOW gear, I could have a John Deere. Real pullers don't have speed limits. If you can't make it GO... make it SHINY |
Posted By: Mikez
Date Posted: 22 Mar 2025 at 9:25pm
| Is this yours now. Neat find |
Posted By: Gary
Date Posted: 22 Mar 2025 at 9:36pm
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D Series I think I still have the Tool Box from my D-12 around somewhere. I'll check when I'm back home. WF Owner may have one as well. G |
Posted By: DSeries4
Date Posted: 22 Mar 2025 at 9:37pm
Yes it is. Only 1/2 hour away from home. ------------- '49 G, '54 WD45, '55 CA, '56 WD45D, '57 WD45, '58 D14, '59 D14, '60 D14, '61 D15D, '66 D15II, '66 D21II, '67 D17IV, '67 D17IVD, '67 190XTD, '73 620, '76 185, '77 175, '84 8030, '85 6080 |
Mikez wrote:Posted By: orangeman
Date Posted: 23 Mar 2025 at 7:17am
| You'll have fun with that tractor - D Series4 ~ Orangeman |
Posted By: RedHeeler79
Date Posted: 23 Mar 2025 at 9:12am
| That’s a nice score! So neat when you get original paperwork and service records along with the tractor too. Looks like the PO was religious about oil changes!! |
Posted By: HudCo
Date Posted: 23 Mar 2025 at 10:17am
| thats almost as bad as my doner engine for my d17 when i fixed all the leakes on the pump and got all the cylinders doing all their work the blow by would push oil out the filler by the tune of going from full to add in about 2 minuts at idle,. i am the third owner but i should have inherited it any ways |
Posted By: jiminnd
Date Posted: 23 Mar 2025 at 11:27am
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Maybe different than gas but my tool box is on the right fender, don't have that big battery box on a gas. ------------- 1945 C, 1949 WF and WD, 1981 185, 1982 8030, unknown D14(nonrunner) |
Posted By: DiyDave
Date Posted: 23 Mar 2025 at 3:32pm
Even has the factory valve cover oil recycler... ------------- Source: Babylon Bee. Sponsored by BRAWNDO, its got what you need! |
Posted By: BobPaulusCentrOH
Date Posted: 23 Mar 2025 at 4:40pm
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Great find I have 1963 D15 Series 2 Diesel also, only mine is a Tractor Loader Backhoe with Henry TS 500 Loader and Henry Mark IV Backhoe. Handiest thing I ever bought. Good Luck with yours! Bob
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Posted By: lentsch
Date Posted: 23 Mar 2025 at 7:17pm
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My D15 series II has a tool box like that on the right fender. ------------- WD,D15,190XT,7000,8010x2,7060,8070 |
Posted By: DSeries4
Date Posted: 24 Mar 2025 at 2:43pm
Most tractors did have the toolbox on the right side except when that space was needed for other things: like a D15 diesel battery box, or hydraulic console on a D17 series 4. ------------- '49 G, '54 WD45, '55 CA, '56 WD45D, '57 WD45, '58 D14, '59 D14, '60 D14, '61 D15D, '66 D15II, '66 D21II, '67 D17IV, '67 D17IVD, '67 190XTD, '73 620, '76 185, '77 175, '84 8030, '85 6080 |
Posted By: DSeries4
Date Posted: 24 Mar 2025 at 3:13pm
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Didn't waste any time tearing into it. Tire chains - off. Homemade battery box - gone. Additional homemade supports for the 3 point hitch - gone. Homemade generator support - gone (served no purpose). Big tool box on left frame rail - gone (man, that thing was heavy!). Creative seat cushions - gone. Homemade liquid containment devices also gone. Additional homemade light wiring - gone (and very sketchy). Starter is out and getting rebuilt. Battery cables were undersized and had no insulation in some places. No wonder it would not start worth a damn! Don't get the wrong idea, it's not getting restored. Just how I like all my tractors: safe, reliable and presentable.    ------------- '49 G, '54 WD45, '55 CA, '56 WD45D, '57 WD45, '58 D14, '59 D14, '60 D14, '61 D15D, '66 D15II, '66 D21II, '67 D17IV, '67 D17IVD, '67 190XTD, '73 620, '76 185, '77 175, '84 8030, '85 6080 |
Posted By: DSeries4
Date Posted: 30 Mar 2025 at 4:05pm
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Does anyone have a picture of how the fuel is supposed to get from the sediment bowl to the primary filter? Series 1 is different. Oddly enough the AGCO parts website only shows series 1 and it seems the only manuals I can find are for Series 1s. I want to get rid of that electric pump. I figure there should at least be a hand primer somewhere, but I don't know where it would go. Appreciate any insight!  ------------- '49 G, '54 WD45, '55 CA, '56 WD45D, '57 WD45, '58 D14, '59 D14, '60 D14, '61 D15D, '66 D15II, '66 D21II, '67 D17IV, '67 D17IVD, '67 190XTD, '73 620, '76 185, '77 175, '84 8030, '85 6080 |
Posted By: Steve in NJ
Date Posted: 30 Mar 2025 at 7:02pm
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Congrat's on your new toy Myron! Oil leaks are good! They keep the rest of the Tractor from rusting. Pretty HD Generator bracket! Looks like a grill guard but for a Gennie.  Nice find! Enjoy! Steve@B&B ------------- 39'RC, 43'WC, 48'B, 49'G, 50'WF, 65 Big 10, 67'B-110, 75'716H, 2-620's, & a Motorhead wife |
Posted By: DSeries4
Date Posted: 14 Jun 2025 at 10:02am
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Cleaned up pretty nice. Lots of time with the wire brush and a whole case of brake cleaner. New seat cushions and hydraulic return line. Brand new starter and battery cables. Fires right up at 48 degrees without the manifold heater. Took it for a half hour drive down the road and ran beautifully. Steering is a little loose - universal joints are worn. Will bring it into the shop this winter for some more in depth repairs: front axle pivot pin, fix up the steering, new wiring harness and lights, remove that electric fuel pump, tackle a few leaks and put in some new gauges. Question: Is there any difference between D17 diesel and D15 diesel tachometers? There's not much left of mine. Can't find new ones for 15 diesels.    ------------- '49 G, '54 WD45, '55 CA, '56 WD45D, '57 WD45, '58 D14, '59 D14, '60 D14, '61 D15D, '66 D15II, '66 D21II, '67 D17IV, '67 D17IVD, '67 190XTD, '73 620, '76 185, '77 175, '84 8030, '85 6080 |
Posted By: Mikez
Date Posted: 15 Jun 2025 at 7:40am
| Looks good. |
Posted By: rtwfarm
Date Posted: 15 Jun 2025 at 7:57am
| Tach call me 402-469-1738 |
Posted By: Pat the Plumber CIL
Date Posted: 15 Jun 2025 at 8:20am
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Quite a rare find ,glad to see you straightening out it out . Nice work . Only thing that would make it even more rare is if it was a narrow front. ------------- You only need to know 3 things to be a plumber;Crap rolls down hill,Hot is on the left and Don't bite your fingernails 1964 D-17 SIV 3 Pt.WF,1964 D-15 Ser II 3pt.WF ,1960 D-17 SI NF,1956 WD 45 WF. |
Posted By: DSeries4
Date Posted: 15 Jun 2025 at 9:14am
I already do have a series 1 diesel narrow front. ------------- '49 G, '54 WD45, '55 CA, '56 WD45D, '57 WD45, '58 D14, '59 D14, '60 D14, '61 D15D, '66 D15II, '66 D21II, '67 D17IV, '67 D17IVD, '67 190XTD, '73 620, '76 185, '77 175, '84 8030, '85 6080 |
Posted By: WD45
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2025 at 3:12pm
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Hello Myron Nice tractor Series I used a different manifold. What series of battery are you using in your Series II NOW, A great fine. Do not know were there are and d15 diesels in our area. Mine is a series I ------------- Fred Dunlop, G,B,CA, WC,WF, 3 WD45`s,gas, diesel and LP,U,D10 series III, D12,D14,D15 SERIES II,D17 Series IV in Gas and Diesel ,D19 GAS and D21,170 185,210 ,220 an I-600 8070 fwd, 716H and 1920H |
Posted By: modirt
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2025 at 5:01pm
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Does this have the same factory 3 point they put on the D15 Series 2 gas tractors? Is yours intact? Pictures? |
Posted By: DSeries4
Date Posted: 22 Jun 2025 at 9:34am
No difference from the gas model. Diesel engine is the only difference with the tractor. I do not have the drawbar on at the moment.   ------------- '49 G, '54 WD45, '55 CA, '56 WD45D, '57 WD45, '58 D14, '59 D14, '60 D14, '61 D15D, '66 D15II, '66 D21II, '67 D17IV, '67 D17IVD, '67 190XTD, '73 620, '76 185, '77 175, '84 8030, '85 6080 |
Posted By: modirt
Date Posted: 22 Jun 2025 at 2:00pm
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Looks good. And as far as you can tell, the main casting that bolts to the frame is intact and undamaged? That casting for the D15 I'm stewarding had been busted and welded twice before I came alone and it was found with casting busted a third time. And at some point long the way, the bolt hole in the frame that runs into the oil reservoir had also been damaged and was found with Helicoil insert. Not trusting it do more than look nice, we converted tractor to a hybrid of snap coupler and factory 3 point, using a Cross Manufacturing conversion kit. Or more accurately, pieces of one. No more problems. But am curious to know if the problems found with this tractor is unique to it (and abuse it may have been given) or if the design in general tended towards failure.
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Posted By: DSeries4
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2025 at 2:34pm
It all depends on how the tractor was used and/or abused. None of mine have any damage in the rear housing. I have read that the mounting bolts need to be kept tight or problems could eventually arise. However, in my opinion, the factory 3 point hitch is a little flimsy for a 46 horsepower tractor. It may not have been the best design. For heavy 3 point hitch work, I always go to one of my Series 4 D17s. Those factory 3 points are nearly indestructible. Far superior to what was on the D15. ------------- '49 G, '54 WD45, '55 CA, '56 WD45D, '57 WD45, '58 D14, '59 D14, '60 D14, '61 D15D, '66 D15II, '66 D21II, '67 D17IV, '67 D17IVD, '67 190XTD, '73 620, '76 185, '77 175, '84 8030, '85 6080 |
Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2025 at 3:19pm
| A diesel D-15 II was only 36 HP, so not quite as rough on a 3-point hitch as the G-160 at 46 HP could be. |