Grinding Valves
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Printed Date: 01 May 2025 at 7:35am
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Topic: Grinding Valves
Posted By: Les Kerf
Subject: Grinding Valves
Date Posted: 26 Feb 2025 at 9:09am
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If you are going to work on old tractors, having old tooling with which to work makes for a more enjoyable experience. My 14 year old Grandson is grinding valves for my Allis-Chalmers Model C tractor engine using an antique Van Norman Model F valve grinder. This particular valve grinder was in the old Careywood Garage at Careywood, Idaho which was owned by the late Chas Wallace and later purchased by my Father-in-law, Ronald Hoffman. This valve grinder has a Patent Date of Feb. 20, 1923. This does not mean that the machine is that old, but I have reason to believe that it could easily date to the 1930‘s because a photograph of the Wallace Brother’s Garage is shown in the Bonner County Historical Society book in the Careywood section. Chas Wallace sold the property in the mid-1960‘s when he retired, and it appears that the valve grinder was not functional at that time due to a broken drive cable. It sat unused and covered with dust until last year when I fabricated a new drive cable (parts availability being a bit problematic) and installed some new wiring. The spindle head seems to be in serviceable condition and the valves are acceptable after grinding. I wouldn’t want to try to earn a living with this machine, but for my limited needs it suits me just fine.    |
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Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 26 Feb 2025 at 9:22am
| What have you got for seat grinding ?? |
Posted By: Les Kerf
Date Posted: 26 Feb 2025 at 2:11pm
I bought a set of Chinese carbide seat cutters, sorta like the Nu-way type but much cheaper. They seem to work ok so long as you are careful, and I do lap them lightly. My Father-in-law had the matching seat grinder set, which I did use many years ago, but about a year before he passed away he told me that he loaned them to someone and could not remember who it was, so they are history.
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DrAllis wrote:Posted By: KJCHRIS
Date Posted: 26 Feb 2025 at 11:57pm
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Glad you've got help, nothing wrong with the old tooling except finding parts. I've a Sioux Tools Valve Shop. It came from a surplus auction at a county roads maint shop few years ago. Most of the seat stones were still in sealed boxes the re-facers belt & electric cord were mouse chewed & coolant pump for valve re-facer was stuck with dried up coolant, works fine now. Even had manual with it, newest biggest Allis Tractor in it is "WD". Goodson in Winona, MN. have online catalog and carry lots of items for older to new automotive engine machining equip.; http://www.goodson.com " rel="nofollow - www.goodson.com ; were 2 online; 1 in Illinois and 1 in N J both buy, repair, resell older units also sell parts for older valve machines and boring bars. Can't find address for either right now. ------------- AC 200, CAH, AC185D bareback, AC 180D bareback, D17 III, WF. D17 Blackbar grill, NF. D15 SFW. Case 1175 CAH, Bobcat 543B, |
Posted By: Les Kerf
Date Posted: 27 Feb 2025 at 9:02am
Thanks for the link , lots of good stuff there. Our Daughter home schools her children, this qualified as a shop lesson. Last week I had him measuring a bunch of old drill bits using a pair of vernier calipers. I told him that I don't believe one person in 10,000 can do that today.
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Posted By: Leon B MO
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2025 at 7:02pm
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Funny, my son (24) just bought a 1950 something Bridgeport mill. He grew up on Lego's and since he was 15 has a need to be able to "take care of things himself". Keep that young generation involved. Leon B Mo ------------- Uncle always said "Fill the back of the shovel and the front will take care of itself". |
Posted By: DaveKamp
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2025 at 10:12pm
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When I was 12, I had an intense desire for a 10" metalworking lathe... a South Bend Heavy 10 would've been the greatest, but I simply had no way to acquire anything like that. Now, I wrinkle my nose at the thought... but not because the South Bend wouldn't have been enough, but because I've got a Monarch 10EE in the garage, and four others ranging from the little Rivett 2nd op, up to the 26" x 120 Lodge & Shipley (Large and Shiplike... or Long and Squeaky, or Loud and Slimey...). When I come across a kid who'd like a small lathe, i FIND HIM OR HER one. A kid that finds interest in building and working with their hands, must be well-fed tools and materials, so that those skills can grow and flourish. ------------- Ten Amendments, Ten Commandments, and one Golden Rule solve most every problem. Citrus hand-cleaner with Pumice does the rest. |
Posted By: ekjdm14
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2025 at 6:27am
Dave, I know a kid who'd LOVE a small lathe... Come to think of it, my son would like one too!  
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