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Topic: what did 450 loader go on

Posted By: HudCo
Subject: what did 450 loader go on
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2025 at 10:01am

what tractors would a 450 loader come or fit on the best ? found nice one and thinking about putting on my d17 but only if it lookes like it was made for it not to big not to small

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Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2025 at 11:01am

5040-5045-5050 would be my guess. Does it have a pump?? The 5000 series pump went behind the seat just above the pto shield.

Posted By: HudCo
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2025 at 11:16am

this one has four hoses with male couplers, sound like the frame maybe a little small my tractor , i did score a three spool valve for the left side off of a salvage series 1 d17d tractor to run it that way, or a pto pump and another valve stack

Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2025 at 12:00pm

The 5040-45-50 loader had a tank on the left tower, PTO pump and a valve stack on the left side. Those tractors had zero hydraulics on them. The loader was self-contained like a WD45 would have been.

Posted By: Allis dave
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2025 at 1:34pm

I don't know about the loader, but neat find on the 3 spool valve!

Posted By: cjarosz
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2025 at 5:57pm

We had a 5050 fwa and a 400 loader, as dr said tank was in the rh tower and valves were attached to it as well so it would run with right had. Extremely rugged and would dig to China. Had to replace pump and retrofit a new valve since it had been discontinued and finding the pump to mount above the pto was challenging but it would outperform just about anything today if the tractor had a shuttle like the Kubota that replaced it that would have been the perfect scoop tractor

Posted By: HudCo
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2025 at 6:36pm

no valve stack. i cant see any fill, high leval or drain plugs on the towers , looking at the pictures . i know the other laoders have the tank in the tower. but i will have them send me some differant pictures . the bucket real straight and does not look abused

Posted By: Kenny L.
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2025 at 9:45pm

Hubco I'm going to say you're looking at a 460 loader which would be for a 6000 series tractor, the 5000 series tractor use a 400 loader D14 414 D15 415 WD & WD45 445 D17 series was the 417 and the 517 was for D-17IV and the 519 was for D-19 the 500 loader will all so work on 170,175,180,185and 190. this's my understanding of the loader from the book I've on allis loader but I could be wrong. HTH

Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2025 at 9:56pm

Everything about the "400" series loader made for the 5040-45-50 is different when it comes to how it hangs/fits on the tractor. A ton of fabrication would be required (I think) to make it fit a D-14-15-17. So much so, I don't think it's worth doing.

Posted By: Gary Burnett
Date Posted: 01 Feb 2025 at 11:48am

I have 2 tractors with the Fiat style loaders and a D17 I compared them to.It would take some work and fitting to put one on the D17 but not crazy hard.Would have to drill the side plates up beside the motor on the D17 or weld a bracket.Standard loader hangers would work on the back.Hydraulics would have to be worked out for sure.

Posted By: Brian G. NY
Date Posted: 01 Feb 2025 at 3:54pm

I have an owner's manual: FARM LOADER

Model 450

For 6140 Tractors

That's not to say the model is not used on other tractors as well.

The D-17 looks like "a whole 'nother animal" compared to the 6140.

Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 01 Feb 2025 at 7:12pm

6140 was a Japanese built big brother to the 5020-5030. While at 40 HP I think it was possibly a little smaller physically than a 5040-45-50 Fiat. Again, much fabrication would be needed as all four of these tractors had no side frames like the D-series did.