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Topic: dip-stick

Posted By: Marlyn nwia
Subject: dip-stick
Date Posted: 01 May 2024 at 9:01pm

Oh! no ; Because the bell shaped retainer on the engine dip-stick of my D 17 IV was detached and lost; I had replaced it with a new one from my Agco dealer. Today a very competent experienced mechanic withdrew the dip-stick and behold! the dip-stick had broken approximately three inches below the retainer. What happened? Need we remove the engine oil pan and remove the broken pieces?

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Posted By: RedHeeler79
Date Posted: 01 May 2024 at 9:45pm

It takes quite a bit of work to remove the oil pan on a D17-IV. If it were mine, i would pop the drain plug and try fishing around with a flexible magnet first. You may get lucky enough to drag the broken piece of the dipstick out the drain hole and not have to go through all the extra work of pulling the starter, front sheet metal, front axle, radiator, front support, power steering lines, etc just to be able to remove the pan. The oil pump pickup tube has a screen and metal shield on it, so unlikely that any dipstick material would be sucked up. Give the magnetic pickup tool a try, might just get lucky. In all honesty, the remaining piece of dipstick probably wouldn’t hurt anything if left at the bottom of the pan. I would want it out of there, though, if it were my tractor.

Posted By: SteveM C/IL
Date Posted: 02 May 2024 at 8:01am

It can't do any harm just laying in the pan. It can't get through the screen and I seriously doubt it can even get drawn up off the bottom to begin with. Not worth the effort to remove the pan in my world. If you could find it with bailing wire and a magnet, the pickup likely in the way to get it in position to get out.

Posted By: AC7060IL
Date Posted: 02 May 2024 at 4:07pm

If you don’t own a mechanics shirt pocket telescoping pen style magnet, maybe go buy one? Some extent 24”?
Use it to enter the dipstick tube & fish out broken dipstick that way. Chances are; the dipstick pieces may still be resting inside dipstick tube?

Posted By: SteveM C/IL
Date Posted: 02 May 2024 at 5:06pm

Good point about it still being in the tube. Will depend how long it is and if the tube ends close enough to the pan to keep it from sliding out.

Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 02 May 2024 at 8:24pm

Next time you change the oil, shove a cow magnet up in the drain plug hole and leave it in there laying on the bottom of the oil pan.

Posted By: HudCo
Date Posted: 02 May 2024 at 9:21pm

dr. no one know what a cow magnet is any more they kind of whent with the big dairy buyout in the early eighties

Posted By: Marlyn nwia
Date Posted: 03 May 2024 at 3:33am

I am a former and an"old" dairyman; I know what it is used for and how to use it.👍👍

Posted By: Clay
Date Posted: 03 May 2024 at 8:07am

A Borescope inspection camera will allow you to look inside the oil pan.

These cameras are great for inspecting engine cylinders and lots of other things, with minimal disassembly.

Posted By: GSTROM99
Date Posted: 04 May 2024 at 10:15am

Smallest borescope I see is 5.5mm, that might work. Use of a magnet to try and pick it up, will only result in the magnet frustratingly sticking to everything else on its way in there, IMHO. If it's not still inside the dipstick tube, I'd leave it. Those cow magnets are too big to get into drain plug hole, aren't they?

Posted By: Oldwrench
Date Posted: 05 May 2024 at 6:51am

You might try to apply a strong magnet to the outside of the oilpan. Once you "trap" the dipstick piece you might be able to slide the magnet over towards the drain hole, where you should be able to grab it with some needlenose or something. Might take a few tries, but I would imagine you can coax it over towards the hole that way.