HD5G project has to go
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Topic: HD5G project has to go
Posted By: darrel in ND
Subject: HD5G project has to go
Date Posted: 19 Mar 2024 at 6:48am
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So, I brought an HD5G track loader about 7-8 years ago for 300 bucks, thinking that all it needed was steering clutches. Guess hind sight is 20-20, because at the time, I could have hauled it 5 miles from the auction sale sight to the scrap yard, and sold it for $1,600. That's what I should have done. But I got it running, and it ran good, just couldn't steer it. Went in a straight line without any indication of deeper problems then steering clutches. And having replaced steering clutches in a 5 once before, figured I could get er done. So I ordered of $2K worth of the bi-metalic steering clutch plates, the thin spacers, new springs, and brake shoes. Once I got it lined up straight with the door of my quonset, it backed right in under it's own power. Things went south in a hurry though on the left side. Sometime during clutch bolt removal, that final drive seized up. Upon further inspection, everything on that side, bearings and all, were full of rust. I started replacing bearings in the pinion shaft, then realized that intermediate shaft and sprocket shaft bearings were rusted up too. Got as far as to split the chain on that side, and that's where it's been for the last 6 years, just taking up shop space. That's about the time I took a job off the farm too, so time to work on it is nonexistent. Was sizing it up Sunday afternoon, and finally sucumbed to the fact that I will not live long enough to see it finished. Looks like the rails have to come off to get the sprocket off, and some previous owner has welded the track adjuster/track releases to the rails. So yeah, the rose colored glasses are gone now. So I guess, that where I am heading to with this long winded post, is that I can't quite bring myself to haul it to the scrap yard. Can't help but think someone out there might have a desire for it, if nothing else, for parts. The engine ran good. All of my clutch parts are not lost, they are not in the machine yet, and can be used elsewhere. I kind of hate to just pull it out and park it somewhere out of the way in my yard, because I already have more of that kind of stuff then I need already, and am trying to go the other way. So if anyone wants it the way it sits, come and get it. If you want to continue on with it and rebuild it, we can work out a deal on all the clutch parts that I have. I think that I still want a track loader sometime in the near future, but I just don't have the time to put the work into one like this one will require. Tears me up to give up on a project, but reality has set in Darrel |
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Posted By: Codger
Date Posted: 19 Mar 2024 at 8:20am
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I hate reading scenarios such as this as seen it many times over. I have several trucks given to me under much the same subject. In my application can't have too many 60+ year old parts no longer made, but I'm not ready to give up on things yet. I hope you and another party can get together to recoup some of your loss which could be considered somewhat tangible. Seems to be several of this series tractor available and I would consider breaking it apart to use as a donor for another. This one doesn't eat and won't hurt anything being covered out in the yard till another is located. My shop is remote from my house by two miles citing my propensity to collect "junk" according to my wife too. ------------- A career built on repairing and improving engineering design deficiencies, shortcomings, and failures over 50 years now. |
Posted By: Les Kerf
Date Posted: 19 Mar 2024 at 10:32am
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Bummer  North Dakota is just too far from Idaho. |
Posted By: Coke-in-MN
Date Posted: 19 Mar 2024 at 2:14pm
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I had bought a D6 9U from local construction contractor and figured it was just what I needed - well after replacing front idler and a few other small things I used it for about a year , then decided as it had low oil pressure to check crank bearings . one journal was in the look of a branch with bark attached . lapped it smooth with emery paper and wet or dry paper to at least a smooth feel , then shimmed the bearing to fit . Figured I would do more in replacing engine later , then transmission broke , replaced that , then track pins were worn , so put D5 segmented sprockets on it and D5 track after welding D6 spokes to new D5 sprocket rings , well next side bearings on ring gear let gear slip out and took the output shaft of transmission teeth off pinion gear , Started working on it and figured more money was not the answer so traded it for a HD4 to small equipment repair place . Still wonder if that was another money pit as that got traded off years later for a New Holland 785 skid loader . Good intent seems to be expensive lessons . Though a 1955 HD5G I bought in 1972 I still have - but engine overhauled , sprocket replaced , new track , HD11 ceramic clutch in steering , ceramic main clutch , and other repairs have been added over it's life . ------------- Faith isn't a jump in the dark. It is a walk in the light. Faith is not guessing; it is knowing something. "Challenges are what make life interesting; overcoming them is what makes life meaningful." |
Posted By: orangeman
Date Posted: 20 Mar 2024 at 7:49am
| Darrell: I was following along on this project and if memory serves remember you had picked it up some time ago. I would guess a lot of us here like the AC 5G design and can certainly see its usefulness that it could bring once up and running and back in shape. Although this project didn't come through the way you had hoped - am certain that the knowledge gained by working through all its issues from a mechanical standpoint is probably worth way more than if you had signed up for a mechanical engineering course, so not all was lost. I know that doesn't change the outcome so wishing you better sailing ahead! ~ Respectfully, Orangeman |