7020 back to work
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Topic: 7020 back to work
Posted By: BillinAlberta
Subject: 7020 back to work
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2023 at 4:17pm
Hydraulics working and engine running smooth.Thanks for the help and advice!
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Posted By: DSeries4
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2023 at 4:24pm
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Interesting choice of engine. ------------- '49 G, '54 WD45, '55 CA, '56 WD45D, '57 WD45, '58 D14, '59 D14, '60 D14, '61 D15D, '66 D15II, '66 D21II, '67 D17IV, '67 D17IVD, '67 190XTD, '73 620, '76 185, '77 175, '84 8030, '85 6080 |
Posted By: DougG
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2023 at 5:44pm
| Interesting indeed, but the AC 292 gasser is rated for 94 hp on a Gleaner F,, |
Posted By: BillinAlberta
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2023 at 6:10pm
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It is a 301 from a model G Gleaner.Seems to make a dandy baler and bush hog (7foot) tractor. Power shift works well. The cultivator is 11 ft modified to 3 point. Pulls fine. The original engine was needing too many dollars and I had this in the shed already.Surprisingly easy to bolt in . |
Posted By: AC7060IL
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2023 at 6:41pm
| It’s still all AC, but very unique. Thanks for sharing. It is probably a great winter/chore tractor ~ starts easily when cold? So do you call is a 7020G ? |
Posted By: Unit3
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2023 at 6:52pm
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Is it the same as a 190 gas? ------------- 2-8070FWA PS/8050PS/7080/7045PS/200/D15-II/2-WD45/WD/3-WC/UC/C |
Posted By: HudCo
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2023 at 7:23pm
| i am thinking about putting one of those 301 gas out of a 190lpg in my d17 if i dont soon find stuff to overhaul my 262d |
Posted By: injpumpEd
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2023 at 7:34pm
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I'm a diesel guy, but that is actually pretty dang cool! It makes sense in your climate! Probably way short of what a 7020 could originally do though, but it's purpose built, so go for it! Pretty thirsty? ------------- 210 "too hot to farm" puller, part of the "insane pumpkin posse". Owner of Guenther Heritage Diesel, specializing in fuel injection systems on heritage era tractors. stock rebuilds to all out pullers! |
Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2023 at 7:45pm
| 190XT had the G-2800/301 gas at 105 flywheel HP, which should be about 80 PTO HP in a 7020 chassis. If it is from a 190 it is the G2500/265 cubic inch version at 12 less HP than the 301. |
Posted By: HudCo
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2023 at 9:10pm
| i forgot to say xt but that engine really does fit very clean looking in that 7020 |
Posted By: Unit3
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2023 at 10:53pm
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I don’t know if it’s a crop hustler or a land handler, but it sure is a clean build. It would only happen to me, but after all of the years of putting diesel in it, I would sometime forget and put diesel back in. Beautiful tractor. ------------- 2-8070FWA PS/8050PS/7080/7045PS/200/D15-II/2-WD45/WD/3-WC/UC/C |
Posted By: Ron(AB)
Date Posted: 17 Nov 2023 at 12:00am
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Improvise, adapt, overcome! ------------- 405, 7000, 7050, 8050, 8070, L3, 2300 & 2600 disk |
Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 17 Nov 2023 at 1:31am
| Easy swap. 7020 flywheel and backplate, maybe (maybe not) the 7020 water pump, fabricate front motor mount brackets to the side frames, and an air cleaner connection to the carburetor. |
Posted By: darrel in ND
Date Posted: 17 Nov 2023 at 6:24am
| Sometimes you have to think outside the box. All things considered, it could be a game changer in cold climate. Every time that I put gas into my thirsty 190, I contemplate getting rid of it. But then anytime it's cold and I don't have any other tractor plugged in, it's nice to have. Darrel |
Posted By: injpumpEd
Date Posted: 17 Nov 2023 at 7:30am
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Now just put EFI on it, like the guy from Walnut here that makes up kits for gas 3020/4020's. Would make for a really nice chore tractor in the cold! ------------- 210 "too hot to farm" puller, part of the "insane pumpkin posse". Owner of Guenther Heritage Diesel, specializing in fuel injection systems on heritage era tractors. stock rebuilds to all out pullers! |
Posted By: DSeries4
Date Posted: 17 Nov 2023 at 10:17pm
The 292 in the Gleaner F is a GM engine, not AC. ------------- '49 G, '54 WD45, '55 CA, '56 WD45D, '57 WD45, '58 D14, '59 D14, '60 D14, '61 D15D, '66 D15II, '66 D21II, '67 D17IV, '67 D17IVD, '67 190XTD, '73 620, '76 185, '77 175, '84 8030, '85 6080 |
DougG wrote:Posted By: DougG
Date Posted: 18 Nov 2023 at 5:26am
| Yup I was wrong the gasser in an F - was Allis 262,, knew it was something like that, when they run good they put out the power |
Posted By: GM Guy
Date Posted: 25 Nov 2023 at 4:47pm
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I still think there is a place for gas on the farm, EFI and turbocharged especially. I may be crazy, but I think the new holland bi-directional would still sell if they mad a gas version, seems a common use for them is moving round bales around in winter for many plains cattle ranches, and EFI gas would definitely go over good in that application, especially if the price reflected it. ------------- Gleaner: the properly engineered and built combine. If you need parts for your Gleaner, we are parting out A's through L2's, so we may be able to help. |
Posted By: AC7060IL
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2023 at 6:37am
1. G2800, Power-Crater gasoline rated @ 102hp, 301, or 2. G2800, LPG 95hp 301 or 3. 2900, turbo diesel 104hp 301. From what I gather, the 68' & 69' gleaner G/GH gas may have been the ONLY gleaners with the G2800 engines? From 1970-72, the G gleaners G2800s were replaced by the gm 350 v8 which then became standard in the 1973-76 Gleaner M/MH/Hillside gas. In Norm's book's "engine & power unit" section, it mentions that the gleaner F, along with the 190XT were offered with a G2800. The AC 2800 diesel was offered in the F. But, my 1968 (6711 dated, 67'Nov) gleaner F sales literature only list the 262s gas & LPG. Guess maybe a late 68' or 69' F could have also used a G2800 version~80ish hp? Anyone have a 1969 year Gleaner F sales literature to verify one way or another? In 1970, the F was then offered with the gm 292. Your 7020 gas is unique & very cool. |
Posted By: dchilton
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2023 at 10:04pm
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You done a nice job on it. Looks great. |
Posted By: tbran
Date Posted: 15 Apr 2024 at 9:54am
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Did you find a tractor gov and control ? ------------- When told "it's not the money,it's the principle", remember, it's always the money.. |
Posted By: BillinAlberta
Date Posted: 15 Apr 2024 at 1:34pm
I am using the governor and throttle levers direct from the combine.It may be useful later to modify the governor for better mid range speed control.Right now it works fine.
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Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 15 Apr 2024 at 1:41pm
| Gleaner model "F" combines had G-262 (early) and GM-292 gas engines...NEVER a G-2800. Model "F" used D-2800 diesel engines. Only the early model "G" Gleaners had the G-2800 engine and then they went GM-350. Gleaner "G"'s always had D-2900 turbo diesels. |
Posted By: tbran
Date Posted: 15 Apr 2024 at 2:22pm
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Yes, the 190 gov would be an asset - unless you have it wide open - you have no gov now... ------------- When told "it's not the money,it's the principle", remember, it's always the money.. |