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Topic: Wd45 with mounted picker on hibid
Posted By: dr p
Subject: Wd45 with mounted picker on hibid
Date Posted: 07 Feb 2023 at 6:17am
Sale in earlham, iowa. Thought a single wheel narrow front under a corn picker was unique.



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Posted By: wjohn
Date Posted: 08 Feb 2023 at 8:20pm
Actually I thought that was fairly common. I've read that AC sold a single front that bolted on in place of the wide front end so you could change it out to fit your corn picker for harvest. Then switch back to the WFE after harvest.

Now not a ton of the corn pickers themselves have probably survived.


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1939 B, 1940 B, 1941 WC, 1951 WD, 1952 CA, 1956 WD-45


Posted By: dr p
Date Posted: 08 Feb 2023 at 8:41pm
Thanks wjohn, did not know that. Now , give me reason to tell the family why i should drive to iowa and get it. Might be next fun project


Posted By: IBWD MIke
Date Posted: 09 Feb 2023 at 10:00am
There were actually three front end options, well four. A tractor equipped with a wide front could easily be converted to Narrow front end or Single front wheel. They just bolt on. A true NFE is fixed, have to change the whole bolster. 

Buy the darn thing and stop at the farm while in Iowa!


Posted By: wjohn
Date Posted: 09 Feb 2023 at 10:53pm
Originally posted by IBWD MIke IBWD MIke wrote:

There were actually three front end options, well four. A tractor equipped with a wide front could easily be converted to Narrow front end or Single front wheel. They just bolt on. A true NFE is fixed, have to change the whole bolster. 

Buy the darn thing and stop at the farm while in Iowa!

Mike, did not know that a bolt on 2 wheel narrow front existed. Always more to learn!

dr p, sounds like a fun trip to me.


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1939 B, 1940 B, 1941 WC, 1951 WD, 1952 CA, 1956 WD-45


Posted By: dr p
Date Posted: 10 Feb 2023 at 6:45am
Yeah, an on line only auction with no inspection, 1000 miles away with alley away at college and no trailer for a picker i don't need. OH COURSE I STARTED BIDDING ON IT!


Posted By: IBWD MIke
Date Posted: 10 Feb 2023 at 9:42am
Originally posted by wjohn wjohn wrote:

Originally posted by IBWD MIke IBWD MIke wrote:

There were actually three front end options, well four. A tractor equipped with a wide front could easily be converted to Narrow front end or Single front wheel. They just bolt on. A true NFE is fixed, have to change the whole bolster. 

Buy the darn thing and stop at the farm while in Iowa!

Mike, did not know that a bolt on 2 wheel narrow front existed. Always more to learn!

dr p, sounds like a fun trip to me.
Pretty handy when you overhaul the wide front on the tractor.




Posted By: JC-WI
Date Posted: 10 Feb 2023 at 1:20pm
I was looking for the tractor and finally found it,...
http://hibid.com/catalog/425393/richard--dick--barnett-estate---part-1?apage=2" rel="nofollow - http://hibid.com/catalog/425393/richard--dick--barnett-estate---part-1?apage=2

http://hibid.com/lot/144119317/allis-chalmers-wd45--five-with-mounted-new-idea?ref=catalog" rel="nofollow - http://hibid.com/lot/144119317/allis-chalmers-wd45--five-with-mounted-new-idea?ref=catalog


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Posted By: Dennis J OPKs
Date Posted: 10 Feb 2023 at 4:44pm
One of the challenges with older style AC pickers was lack of clearance in muddy/greasy conditions.  Unlike JD/IHC pickers there was no room under there for mud.  Not sure how a single front wheel would work but 2 wasn't great under those conditions.  Frequently required waiting for the ground to freeze.  Those pickers were ridiculed back in the day because they had no husking bed but actually didn't do that bad a job of getting husks off.


Posted By: dr p
Date Posted: 10 Feb 2023 at 7:18pm
I pick my corn with one of those old ac pickers. Biggest issue is you can't drive slow enough in high yielding corn. I wonder if a new idea picker would allow me not to have always have one hand on the hand clutch


Posted By: 200Tom1
Date Posted: 10 Feb 2023 at 8:57pm
I was in earlham delivering honey to the grocery store and wondered where this was. I will drive back over and look around.


Posted By: JC-WI
Date Posted: 11 Feb 2023 at 1:12am
Dr P, We slipped the old hand clutch on our WD for hours on end too... Dad had put on one size larger tire on our WD back in about 1963 and from that point on, the tractor rolled along almost too fast in first gear what you had to slip the clutch in heavy corn.
  Story on the was he got the picker fairly cheap because it would not pick corn very good. Almost like new picker... He put the picker on the tractor and tried it out and it didn't pick like it should sat for several hours looking at it why it didn't pick corn but would plug up.  Finally he realized the snapping rolls were aligned like gear teeth instead of meeting edge to edge, pulled the gear off the one roll and turned them into proper position and put the gears  back on. Then it sucked the stalks through the snapper section. Later he got the husking rolls that were rubber and could pick corn almost as clean as other pickers did... but get into easy shelling corn, sadly it would leave shelled corn behind. Here is a pic of it some 16 years ago.
https://www.allischalmers.com/forum/uploads/242/WD_LP_gas_picker.jpg
  The New Idea picker on the WD45 that is up for sale should be a nice picking unit if it was kept up in shape.  Just wish they would have taken better pictures from of the tractor itself.  ...
 They also have a WD45 that has the 4 bolt wide front there too.  Just to far for me to chase it. Good luck fellas.


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Posted By: dr p
Date Posted: 11 Feb 2023 at 10:48am
common sense says it is too far for me, but I haven't taken a midwestern trip since I graduated dental school and left for the Air Force 35 years ago.  Too long


Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 11 Feb 2023 at 3:31pm
Originally posted by Dennis J OPKs Dennis J OPKs wrote:

One of the challenges with older style AC pickers was lack of clearance in muddy/greasy conditions.  Unlike JD/IHC pickers there was no room under there for mud.  Not sure how a single front wheel would work but 2 wasn't great under those conditions.  Frequently required waiting for the ground to freeze.  Those pickers were ridiculed back in the day because they had no husking bed but actually didn't do that bad a job of getting husks off.

 It's NOT an AC picker. It's a New Idea.


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Posted By: 200Tom1
Date Posted: 11 Feb 2023 at 3:50pm
Guys I went over and looked around this morning. I'm glad it was froze up. The tractor with the picker has had the front end broken and had been welded up. This man had 6 school busses on his property. They were all 6 piled full of junk. There were several enclosed trailers there all full of junk. There was a snap coupler blade there along with a3 point blade. There was a D19 there but I couldn't get close to it for the junk piled around it. There were scrappers there working on it. There was a little gal there in a 50x70'? Shed with a house broom attempting to sweep up. But there was so much junk in there she was sorta sweeping around it. There was a big ol pond that the machinery was piled around with a lane leading down to the pond. One interesting thing he had was a boat with an outboard motor on it and 4 wheels on it so it could run up and down the road. It had a motor in the boat to drive the wheels. It had stop lights,a license plate, and headlights. All the tractors I could see except the 400 IHC had the exhaust covered. There was a nice looking head trailer there with a massy grain table on it. There must be 100 cars and trucks there in various stages of scrap. It looked like 90% were fords, several larger ford single axle trucks,. Several elcamenos, a decent looking white Corvair, and a lot of stuff you couldn't see for junk.


Posted By: dr p
Date Posted: 11 Feb 2023 at 4:33pm
Thanks tom. I will wait for another excuse for a road trip


Posted By: 200Tom1
Date Posted: 11 Feb 2023 at 9:25pm
I'm thinking about going back tomorrow and seeing if I can buy the boat/car. It would be neat to drive in our Covered Bridge Parade. I'm not sure I'd want to put it in the water. I might put some 15" mud tires on it.


Posted By: Dennis(IA)
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2023 at 11:49am
dr p, yes back in the 60’s Dad would have the hand clutch smoking by noon and at the end of the day. We would take some shims out and go the rest of the year.  Never did replace that clutch.


Posted By: Dennis(IA)
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2023 at 11:56am
I am a few miles away (25-30), so I am looking at the 45 with the wide front end for my 45.  Also the JD windrower with the V4 Wisconsin. How would I get it home?  Looks like this guy has a cap on every exhaust pipe, hardly ever see that!


Posted By: jvin248
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2023 at 8:08pm
Is that like coffee or juice can caps?


Posted By: 200Tom1
Date Posted: 13 Feb 2023 at 8:04pm
Several had plastic pop bottles slid over them, top was cut out of the bottles. Guys I've been thinking about this auction. There was an older roll back truck there and a pretty good sized loader with forks on it. This place is a mile or two north of I80 and a mile or so east. A lot of these vehicles have no title, I wonder if they were abandoned on I80.


Posted By: dr p
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2023 at 10:51am
I just want to see the home made amphicar, or would it be a terra boat ?


Posted By: Dennis(IA)
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2023 at 8:19am
I looked at the auction from Goggle earth.  Not a real good way to inspect the stuff, but you sure get an overview of the place.  Lots of stuff, and depending on what you bought don’t know how you would get it loaded unless someone was there with a tractor to pull it out.


Posted By: Dennis(IA)
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2023 at 8:04am
I made the comment about loading items from this auction after looking at Goggle earth.  After looking at some items and in the background I see that the cars and stuff are all lined up in rows, so depending on the ground conditions, loading could be easy.  So bring your winch and you’ll be good.


Posted By: dr p
Date Posted: 17 Feb 2023 at 6:19am
Tom, did you get the boat? Picker brought 525


Posted By: 200Tom1
Date Posted: 17 Feb 2023 at 8:43pm
No I did not.



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