European tractor spotting
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Topic: European tractor spotting
Posted By: Creek Jenkins
Subject: European tractor spotting
Date Posted: 27 Sep 2010 at 9:13am
 Visiting Germany last week, stopped by to see a friend and his Allgaier/Porsche. Pretty nice shape, he had it painted pretty glossy though. He bought some land and has an old Claas(?) combine in a shed, we were trying to finger out what kind of engine it had but no luck.
Stopped in Poland for a couple of days, couldn't get a shot of a Polish tractor. Not much going on in the fields of the region I was in. Picked up a tractor mag in Finland, it has a pic of a G with a strange front end. I'll scan it when I get home and post it here.
In Belarus now, lots of those blue tractors around here, haven't seen any other kind yet.
cheers,
Creek
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Posted By: CJohnS MI
Date Posted: 27 Sep 2010 at 10:22am
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Creek, that's a nice looking tractor. Kinda busy looking with all those rods & levers. The differences between U.S. and European farming always fascinated me. The one brand and model that stands out in my mind is this one: [TUBE]tr_b6mTnHEo[/TUBE] A single cylinder with 11 litres! (compare that with a 5 littre chevy V8!). It takes a crew to start the darned thing! I can only imagine how much wear on that bull gear would come from that big engine oscillating the whole machine back & forth. No flywheel could smooth that out. |
Posted By: Creek Jenkins
Date Posted: 27 Sep 2010 at 2:11pm
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CJohn -
Yah the Germans love to talk about the Lanz Bulldog, they always bring it up in a tractor conversation. I have seen pics of one before, but never seen one being started though - quite an operation. What's with the 3 cops in the background? In case the tractor needs to be arrested?
I imagine it was pretty popular with the dentists as it would shake yer teeth loose!
LaPeer, eh? I used to race at the drag strip there every Sunday back in '80, '81. Still got a few trophies laying around somewhere.
cheers,
Creek
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Posted By: DonBC
Date Posted: 27 Sep 2010 at 3:10pm
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When I was growing up in southern Saskatchewan in the 50's and 60's a local farmer had one. I don't think were all that successful for the type of farming done there. I remember hearing that it would wear out draw bar pins and make the draw bar holes oval shaped. I also seem to remember that it was started using something like a shotgun shell. ------------- Jack of all trades, master of none |
Posted By: CJohnS MI
Date Posted: 27 Sep 2010 at 3:19pm
Lapeer still races, so does Ubley. You raced long after I had finished up I guess. I worked on a couple of machines for my cousin - Color Me Gone & Little Red Wagon. Our gramps was a tool & die guy & did the work for Rudolph Diesel in his home town of Augsburg. That Bulldog was a hot bulb engine and way popular in Germany back in the day - especially in the Bavaria area, which seems odd, since Diesel was from Augsburg. You'd think they'd been hoisting mugs of Diesel beer to celebrate. But there they were - those German technocrats - and that crude Bulldog was the most popular. Life ain't fair! |
Creek Jenkins wrote:Posted By: CJohnS MI
Date Posted: 27 Sep 2010 at 3:22pm
I'm not surprised. If my math is right, then its one piston displacing over 670 cubes! |
Posted By: Creek Jenkins
Date Posted: 08 Oct 2010 at 10:36am
 Here is a page from a tractor mag I picked up in Finland. I can't tell what they did to the G, but it looks pretty wierd. Looking at it closer, other than the No.4 mower, I'm not even sure it is a G!
Creek
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Posted By: Karl in MD
Date Posted: 08 Oct 2010 at 12:21pm
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I don't think it's a G. IIRC it's a David Brown 2C, made in the '50's in England. There were several different models in England, very much like the G in layout. ------------- A man's got to know his limitations. '51 WD, Roto-Baler,, A-C rake, '44 C, '42 B |
Posted By: OrangeKiwi(NZ)
Date Posted: 08 Oct 2010 at 1:45pm
Karl is right, made by David Brown but called a 2D . They weren't very popular or successful, only about 1480 made. Powered by a 2 cylinder air-cooled Lister engine. They didn't have hydraulics but used compressed air to raise and lower their implements. |
Posted By: Creek Jenkins
Date Posted: 08 Oct 2010 at 2:32pm
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Well that explains it. I thought I was going to have to go back to the eye doc. Way too ugly for a G. I kept an eye peeled whilst driving around south Finland but could not spot any orange, I thought the tractor mag was my only hope. Ah well. Here are some more pics from the magazine;Posted By: naylorbros
Date Posted: 08 Oct 2010 at 3:34pm
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What parts of Finland were you in? Can you tell us what they are talking about? Thanks Ken
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Posted By: Reindeer
Date Posted: 10 Oct 2010 at 3:00pm
While visiting Italy a couple of weeks ago, my contacts there arranged a visit to a farmer collector of the Landini tractors. This is the Italian version of the Lanz Bear. Same hot bulb engine, etc, etc. They are in great demand in Italy by collectors, with the Super Landini going for about 40,000 Euros. This fellow had 88 various models of the Landini and similar Orsi tractors. Incredible collection of these old beasts. The top photo is a pair of pistons, with a my Blackberry in front for size comparison. The lower one is part of the collection.   ------------- |
Posted By: Creek Jenkins
Date Posted: 13 Oct 2010 at 9:55am
 Naylor -
I was in southern Finland. I go there for work about 4-5 times a year. Turku/Helsinki. Occasionally farther north, I have been as far up as Kemi.
Holy krap Reindeer, those are some big pistons! Here are a couple pictures I took of a tractor in Belarus. I was only there for two days last month, going between Minsk and the airport I did see a couple tractors in the fields, but could never get the kamera rolling in time. The only one I managed to take a pic of was at the airport.
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Posted By: Landini
Date Posted: 25 Oct 2011 at 6:26am
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Hello tractor frind where it wach this landini collection and its also adress fore visit ?
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Posted By: DREAM
Date Posted: 25 Oct 2011 at 7:08am
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Creek, that last one at the airport, would that be a Belarus? I know they were made over there. See a lot of them in this part of the country, but they either went out of business, or lost their market here in the states several years ago. Still see a lot being used. Not sure how hard it is to get parts. ------------- I didn't do it! It was a short, fat, tall, skinny guy that looked like me! |
Posted By: q4016lanz
Date Posted: 25 Oct 2011 at 7:25am
The lanz bulldogs are good in the tracctor pulls
  ------------- 15 allis chalmers tractors 9 lanz bulldog tractors 2 water cooled deutz 9 john deeres tractors 14 Aus made orange chamberlains I spent most of my money on old tractors I wasted the rest |
Posted By: Reindeer
Date Posted: 25 Oct 2011 at 10:05am
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Posted By: Reindeer
Date Posted: 25 Oct 2011 at 10:19am
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Hello Landini I don't know the location or details. I drove there with freinds, an don't have the details. ------------- |
Posted By: DREAM
Date Posted: 25 Oct 2011 at 2:38pm
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Sooo, what do you recon the deal is with the pole climber thingy? What do you suppose it's used for, and where does it's operator sit? I imagine that would make a fella somewhat dizzy on a really tall pole.LOL! ------------- I didn't do it! It was a short, fat, tall, skinny guy that looked like me! |
Posted By: Landini
Date Posted: 26 Oct 2011 at 12:59am
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Its possible fore you to find contact with your frinds in italy ore you remember the city where it is??
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Posted By: Creek Jenkins
Date Posted: 26 Oct 2011 at 1:10pm
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Dream -
I'm not sure if that was a Belarus - I was at the factory during that visit and all the tractors I saw were blue and gray if I remember right. They make everything from two wheeled carts to 240 ton haul trucks there.
Not sure about the pole climber thingy, I'll have to axe someone for a translation next time I'm over there.
cheers,
Creek
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Posted By: Reindeer
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2012 at 10:52am
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Hello Landini I found the contact info for the Landini trader we visited in Italy. His farm is Battistela Piegiorgio, Telephone 328 3626993. He is located between Montagnia and Monselice in North Central Italy. Good luck. He speaks only Italian, or at least no English.------------- |
Posted By: Landini
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2012 at 4:47am
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Thanks a lot fore your info i will make contact in itali and hope to visit this summer, hope to stay in contact becourse its real interest fore me
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