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Topic: Groundhogs under concrete slab building
Posted By: Hunt4Allis
Subject: Groundhogs under concrete slab building
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2021 at 5:13am
What's the best way to get rid of groundhogs under a concrete slab of a building? Been dealing with these for the last couple years and need a solution...
Thanks Matt



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Posted By: Lars(wi)
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2021 at 5:43am
A hungry dog?
Snakes?

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Posted By: Fred in Pa
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2021 at 6:18am
A fiend that had one under his building used human waste , later on his neighbor ask what ever happen to ground hog u had under your building ,I have one now n want to get rid of him. 

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Posted By: WF owner
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2021 at 6:25am
I have a metal storage building, with a paved floor, where I keep my tractors. Groundhogs are constantly digging under the walls for access inside the building. 

Have you tried live traps? I have a live trap with a bullet hole through it, but that's a different smelly story.


Posted By: PaulB
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2021 at 6:41am
Set up a catch barrel for rain from the roof and every time is fills up siphon the barrel into the groundhog hole. Be ready as the rodent will come flying out soaked with a WTF look on his face Big smile
  Used cat litter down the hole will run them off as well Dead


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Posted By: thendrix
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2021 at 6:44am
A lot of patience and a well placed .22lr does a good job. Make sure the gun is loaded though. Pawpaw had one in his garden one year. He sat out behind the LP tank for SEVERAL hours waiting on it to show. It finally did and he got a bead on it, pulled the trigger, and "click".... No bullet. A single shot rifle with no bullets is pretty useless at a distance farther than arms length.

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Posted By: Dusty MI
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2021 at 8:27am
Leg hold traps work well then the .22

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Posted By: Greg (Hillsboro, OH)
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2021 at 8:51am
Apple slice soaked in antifreeze dumped into the hole??


Posted By: Red Bank
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2021 at 9:15am
Hose hooked to exhaust on a lawn mower and pour a little transmission fluid in gas tank


Posted By: Dakota Dave
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2021 at 11:09am
Get gopher grenades from the hardware store. Just lite toss down hole and cover it up cardboard or plywood works great you want the gas to stay in the holeto


Posted By: john(MI)
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2021 at 12:51pm
I got 2 yesterday with my 22.  The scope is still dead on.  I got 2 more to deal with, maybe today!


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Posted By: Hunt4Allis
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2021 at 1:09pm
I shoot plenty out away from building but as soon as these hear me coming there under the slab before I can get a shot( can't really shoot anyways, why I asked for maybe some ideas)


Posted By: Billoh
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2021 at 2:18pm
Put bubble gum down the hole,3or4.


Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2021 at 2:40pm
Originally posted by Hunt4Allis Hunt4Allis wrote:

I shoot plenty out away from building but as soon as these hear me coming there under the slab before I can get a shot( can't really shoot anyways, why I asked for maybe some ideas)
Well. . . . 

Be veeewwwwy veewwwwwy quiet!  Hehehehehehee


Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2021 at 2:45pm
22 is permanent... around here they EAT the bubble gum, DRINK the antifreeze, then SNIFF the oily tractor fumes to get high !!!  ...dont seem to work !  Wink   Wink

never tried cat chit.... have to give that a try.  Clap


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Posted By: tadams(OH)
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2021 at 2:59pm
Put a hose on the exhaust of a vehicle and leave it run, stick it way down the hole 


Posted By: Clay
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2021 at 4:06pm
Anhydrous Ammonia down the hole.


Posted By: DanWi
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2021 at 4:22pm
Live trap set up obstacles so they have to go in such as a sheet of plywood or tires or something and put some bait in the trap. Learn to find their regular paths. I have even set a live trap in a path in tall grass. One thing no one gets out aliveWink


Posted By: DiyDave
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2021 at 5:32pm
If you don't wanna shoot up your live traps, just drop trap, with critter inside, in a barrel fulla water.  Or try these...

https://youtu.be/vCbRwOCku60" rel="nofollow - https://youtu.be/vCbRwOCku60


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Posted By: klinemar
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2021 at 9:34pm
Conibear traps! The only problem with them is animals you want to keep alive as the trap is non selective. https://youtu.be/G1USVaR3APo" rel="nofollow - https://youtu.be/G1USVaR3APo


Posted By: IBWD MIke
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2021 at 8:58am
I'm thinking 25/06! Or maybe .243, or .220 Swift, or .222 Magnum, (I do have one). Would probably just use the .22 because of easy access.

Have caught a couple in the live trap, apples make good bait. Also got one in a connibear. Apparently coons don't like holes in the ground as that groundhog and some opossums is all I've caught there. 


Posted By: ac fleet
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2021 at 9:21am
Conibear traps here,(BIG model), no other animals to worry about and they do work great!


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Posted By: FREEDGUY
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2021 at 6:02pm
Originally posted by Dusty MI Dusty MI wrote:

Leg hold traps work well then the .22
WTH ??  Even "I" have a sense of humane treatment of animals, a Coni Bear trap is MUCH more humane IMO, and the OP should have been on the "look-out" 2 years ago LOLLOL .


Posted By: FREEDGUY
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2021 at 6:05pm
Originally posted by Billoh Billoh wrote:

Put bubble gum down the hole,3or4.
I'm pretty sure that this only works for "moles" Wink


Posted By: FREEDGUY
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2021 at 6:08pm
Originally posted by Clay Clay wrote:

Anhydrous Ammonia down the hole.
How much $$ will THIS cost ??Confused


Posted By: klinemar
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2021 at 7:20pm
Depends on Operator applying the Anhydrous!


Posted By: farmboy520
Date Posted: 25 Jun 2021 at 7:56am
Originally posted by FREEDGUY FREEDGUY wrote:

Originally posted by Clay Clay wrote:

Anhydrous Ammonia down the hole.

How much $$ will THIS cost ??Confused

At current price per ton at $695, estimate about 50 lbs of nh3, less than $20.

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Posted By: Steve A
Date Posted: 25 Jun 2021 at 9:29am
Anything from the .22 to the .450 if I can get a shot at them. Double spring conibear when I'm not able to sit there. Anybody have suggestions for how to refill the dirt--get support back under the slab? I've had some luck with limestone on top of old chicken wire to keep them from redigging the entrance but never figured out how to get more than a couple feet backfilled.


Posted By: LouSWPA
Date Posted: 25 Jun 2021 at 10:14am
DYN O MITE! however, like most of the other suggestions, there are some down side effects......but it is guaranteed to get the job done!
Like they say in the local gambling establishments, or, rather in their advertisements, go big or go home......I'm not even sure what that means, I think, throw all your money away at once, rather than a little bit at a time. That way they can get get more people in to fleece. But now I am way, way off track! OK, pesky varmint..............


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Posted By: WF owner
Date Posted: 25 Jun 2021 at 11:52am
Originally posted by Steve A Steve A wrote:

Anybody have suggestions for how to refill the dirt--get support back under the slab? I've had some luck with limestone on top of old chicken wire to keep them from redigging the entrance but never figured out how to get more than a couple feet backfilled.

When I was working, we use a product called "flowable fill". We used it mostly when "slip-lining" culverts (sliding a slightly smaller culvert inside a damaged slightly larger culvert). We used it to take up the space between the two culverts.

Flowable fill is, basically, a very wet slump concrete (almost liquid) without aggregate (I believe sand, portland cement and water) in it. (Google flowable fill) It has little strength, and is designed to be able to be pumped. We bought ours as "ready mix", but there is no reason you couldn't mix small quantities yourself. It does harden enough that an animal couldn't burrow through it.

I'm sure you could either rent a small concrete pump (maybe even a "mud sucker" pump, but you would have to really clean it well after) or fashion some sort of pump to pump it your self. (I'm thinking of some kind of container that you could pick up with a loader and let gravity do the pumping.)


Posted By: JC-WI
Date Posted: 25 Jun 2021 at 1:41pm
Get some used steel and bury it along the wall.


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Posted By: FREEDGUY
Date Posted: 26 Jun 2021 at 7:14pm
An "old timer" told me that they are NOT happy with pieces of barbed wire in their "filled in" access hole 


Posted By: klinemar
Date Posted: 26 Jun 2021 at 8:59pm
Hydrated Lime in their hole works to move them out. The only problem is they dig a new hole somewhere else. I have used Cat Litter complete with Cat urine and feces . I would move on if someone dumped that in my hole! Best is Coni bear trap. Problem solved. Then mix some soupy redi mix concrete and fill the hole.


Posted By: HD6GTOM
Date Posted: 26 Jun 2021 at 10:33pm
They got under our country church and knawed thru the porch floor. Minster loves to shoot. He sat outside and poped them of with his 22 mag. He asked us "Don't tell tell the gals".


Posted By: Sugarmaker
Date Posted: 27 Jun 2021 at 6:16am
Originally posted by Tbone95 Tbone95 wrote:

Originally posted by Hunt4Allis Hunt4Allis wrote:

I shoot plenty out away from building but as soon as these hear me coming there under the slab before I can get a shot( can't really shoot anyways, why I asked for maybe some ideas)
Well. . . . 

Be veeewwwwy veewwwwwy quiet!  Hehehehehehee

For some reason this response got me thinking od Bugs and Elmer Fud!
I think the wet cement does the whole project at one time. Just sayin!
We are infested with them at our tractor show grounds buildings. They have shot 50 or more. They keep coming!
Regards,
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Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 27 Jun 2021 at 6:16pm
I might start a business selling used cat litter... How much would you pay for a pound of chit ? Wink

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Posted By: klinemar
Date Posted: 27 Jun 2021 at 7:34pm
Steve you can try to sell used cat litter. Most cat owners would gladly give it away!


Posted By: EPALLIS
Date Posted: 27 Jun 2021 at 10:48pm
Pure cholorin bleach down the hole will work.


Posted By: Brian Jasper co. Ia
Date Posted: 18 Jul 2021 at 2:41am
I have gotten rid of them and moles with a few of my old small engines. I had a ground hog dig under my shop floor. I used a gas appliance connector and stuck the end in the hole and sealed the opening with moist dirt. I filled the tank full and let the engine run till it was out of gas. Nothing ever came out of the hole and there haven’t been any new holes either. The same thing worked for moles. Gas exhaust line in the tunnel connected to a smoky engine equaled no more moles in the yard here.

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Posted By: fixer1958
Date Posted: 18 Jul 2021 at 6:50am
Cat litter to me is a Bio Hazard. I'm surprised the government hasn't weaponized it. 
That even tops changing a chitty diaper. 

My boy's when they were younger thought it would be fun to jack with dad by peeing in the litter box, it was in the bathroom. I told my wife then there is something wrong with that f...g cat. Found out later it was them.

I had a skunk in an enclosed part of my shed. Took a couple of lengths of gutter downspouts and piped it into the shed and put it on my WD exhaust and let it run for a couple of hours. Throttle it up and choke it a few times. It worked. Burnt all the paint off the gutter for first 2'.


Posted By: Dave H
Date Posted: 18 Jul 2021 at 8:46am
Lou, I thought it was pronounced dye mo nite,  LOL


Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 18 Jul 2021 at 7:05pm
most all the ways told here are good ones...but...set up your vid camera and use tannerite!


Posted By: modirt
Date Posted: 20 Jul 2021 at 8:28pm
House across the road from me had them dig under foundation. Owners called professional ADC guy and he set cage traps. Blocked the hole so only way out was into the cage. Caught 8 in a week. None since.

A 220 conibear would do the same.....if legal AND if no other animals around that matter.


Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 20 Jul 2021 at 8:32pm
I told the wife to start collecting cat crap in a buck.. I took 2-3 pounds today and put in several mole runs in the yard and barn lot... Will see what happens ! Clap

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