Water Hydrant/ Well Question
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Topic: Water Hydrant/ Well Question
Posted By: Scott B
Subject: Water Hydrant/ Well Question
Date Posted: 08 Feb 2021 at 10:25am
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I've got several of these Non-operational hydrants located on the farm from days gone past. Believe they probably went in in the 50's. My thought is they had to have been plumbed about 50+ yards or so and across a field back to the old farmhouse where the main well & power was.....but that seems quite a distance. The other thought was that they pumped some how and the pipe goes down a ways to ground water. I do have one that is in the barn that's attached to a pretty long length of pipe...about 20' Any thoughts? They kind of look like this:  ------------- D17 Series 1 Allis B- 1939 Allis B- 1945 |
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Posted By: LouSWPA
Date Posted: 08 Feb 2021 at 10:31am
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if it is a pump, that is an awfully short pump handle! methinks they are plumbed (or was) to a central source. ------------- I am still confident of this; I will see the goodness of the Lord in the land of the living. Wait for the Lord; be strong and take heart and wait for the Lord. Ps 27 |
Posted By: Coke-in-MN
Date Posted: 08 Feb 2021 at 10:52am
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Frost Proof Hydrants Valve at bottom of the pipe and is serviced by disconnecting the rod at the handle , a bolt holds handle to rod , then removing the head from the drop pipe , then pulling rod up with the valve fitting attached . It has a seal on it that closes valve but when handle is raised allows water to flow up pipe but at same time blocks the drain hole in side of lower valve body . They come in different lengths for depth of burry , most in 6' or 8' below ground and about 2 to 3 ft above ground . Several things go wrong - pipe rots out feeding the hydrant, drain hole gets plugged and they freeze , valve leaks and water rises from blocked hole and they freeze , operating rod out of adjustment and valve doesn't open or wont shut off . The lower valve body is straight line pointing down so a 90 ell is needed at bottom and then connected to pipe run , a place where if the hydrant was not set on a solid footing block they settle and break the connection to plastic pipe or put strain on supply pipe to cause failure ------------- Life lesson: If you’re being chased by a lion, you’re on a horse, to the left of you is a giraffe and on the right is a unicorn, what do you do? You stop drinking and get off the carousel. |
Posted By: JW in MO
Date Posted: 08 Feb 2021 at 10:55am
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Coke types faster than me and gives full synopsis, I was always a “Cliff Notes,” guy. Yes, they are connected below the frost line to the water system. The ones you have were installed with gravel around the base. When you pull the handle up, water fills the pipe and comes out the spout. When you push the handle down, and everything is adjusted properly, it shuts the water off at the base and that also open up a drain hole so the water in the pipe all drains out to prevent freezing, thus, Frost free hydrant. The new, EPA approved, ones are piped so no water is dumped in the ground. (Explanations for all that BS can be found on their website). PM me, and when and if it ever warms up, i get a free day, I can come up and help you take a look at them, I installed many of them years ago. ------------- Maximum use of available resources! |
Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 08 Feb 2021 at 11:47am
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re: The new, EPA approved, ones are piped so no water is dumped in the ground. yeah, water must be BAD for the environment ???? sigh.... ------------- 3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112 Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor) Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water |
Posted By: Scott B
Date Posted: 08 Feb 2021 at 12:26pm
Thanks JW. These are on the old family farm down south of Clinton, Mo. They tore the farm house down in the 80's and came up with new. Guessing the laterals were disconnected at that point in time. Dozer pushed one out around 5 years ago while doing another project; and still have one left.....think I might dig down a bit and see where/how it was connected. Have no use for them where they are now. I'm constantly on the look out for old wells and cisterns (have two of those now that I'm dealing with) ------------- D17 Series 1 Allis B- 1939 Allis B- 1945 |
JW in MO wrote:Posted By: Dave H
Date Posted: 08 Feb 2021 at 2:30pm
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jay, If the water doesn't drain down to the bottom of the pipe (below frost line), then how does it remain not frozen. Just asking. |
Posted By: JW in MO
Date Posted: 08 Feb 2021 at 4:01pm
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New ones are tube within a tube, water which would have drained into the ground is now drained within the outer tube and should be buried deep enough to be below frost line. The next time the hydrant is turned on, old water is syphoned out of the outer tube to make room for next shutoff. Now if that water were to sit in there for say a few months and you happened to get a drink of it, let’s just say your next few hours will be predetermined, have plenty of reading material at hand. But while you’re sitting there you can pat yourself on the back for saving the environment. ------------- Maximum use of available resources! |
Posted By: Dave H
Date Posted: 08 Feb 2021 at 7:49pm
Thanks for the explanation JW, if I ever have to change one of mine out again, I guess it will spend a little time on the drill press first.  |
Posted By: Coke-in-MN
Date Posted: 08 Feb 2021 at 7:52pm
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Sounds like the same idiots that designed the gas can spouts now has a job with plumbing fixtures ------------- Life lesson: If you’re being chased by a lion, you’re on a horse, to the left of you is a giraffe and on the right is a unicorn, what do you do? You stop drinking and get off the carousel. |
Posted By: LouSWPA
Date Posted: 08 Feb 2021 at 8:13pm
------------- I am still confident of this; I will see the goodness of the Lord in the land of the living. Wait for the Lord; be strong and take heart and wait for the Lord. Ps 27 |