D12 #2 hyd cyl. packing w/gland nut
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Topic: D12 #2 hyd cyl. packing w/gland nut
Posted By: Burl
Subject: D12 #2 hyd cyl. packing w/gland nut
Date Posted: 07 Nov 2020 at 5:04pm
| I have searched, with no luck, packing for hyd. cyl. Has gland nut , part #0230944-1. Is it still available or am I out of luck ? Thanks for any info |
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Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 07 Nov 2020 at 5:18pm
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10 years ago i bought a CHEVRON VEE packing set from these guys... You just need to know the ID, OD and how many rings you want.......... dont know about the nut. https://www.alleghenyyork.com/wps/portal/c/seal-components/" rel="nofollow - https://www.alleghenyyork.com/wps/portal/c/seal-components/
------------- Like them all, but love the "B"s. |
Posted By: Burl
Date Posted: 07 Nov 2020 at 5:30pm
| Thanks Steve but , I think this is just a single web packing under nut . Did not want to take it apart till I have replacement part. Prob have to take it apart and take a look . |
Posted By: Jim.ME
Date Posted: 07 Nov 2020 at 7:02pm
| Sure looks like a chevron packing stack in the on line parts book. |
Posted By: Burl
Date Posted: 07 Nov 2020 at 7:47pm
| You guys are prob right . Will get gland nut off and take a look , Thanks ! |
Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 07 Nov 2020 at 8:06pm
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If its the old single acting rear lift cylinder, i think they were all chevron... If your talking about a loader or boom cylinder, thats different. ------------- Like them all, but love the "B"s. |
Posted By: Burl
Date Posted: 07 Nov 2020 at 9:28pm
| Thanks much ! I would think that part # would pop up something on ebay ??? |
Posted By: Charlie175
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2020 at 6:06am
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I just replaced the packing on both D12 lift cylinders yesterday Chevron Style Part # 70230944
 ------------- Charlie '48 B, '51 CA, '56 WD45 '61 D17, '63 D12, '65 D10 , '68 One-Ninety XTD |
Posted By: Charlie175
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2020 at 7:32am
I used a long wood screw to screw into the old packing to pull it out. Take care not to bugger up the cylinder. Although mine are pitted pretty bad.  ------------- Charlie '48 B, '51 CA, '56 WD45 '61 D17, '63 D12, '65 D10 , '68 One-Ninety XTD |
Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2020 at 1:12pm
Charlie to the rescue !!... I looked all over You Tube and could not find a decent clip on replacing VEE packing in a single acting cylinder... You need a JOB Charlie ?  ------------- Like them all, but love the "B"s. |
Posted By: Charlie175
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2020 at 1:50pm
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Got lucky since I just did this. The packing is expensive at $87 per side. I need to do this on my D10 also. Both sides the packing looked like it was not put in correctly. I assume this is a source of water infiltration for tractors left outside. ------------- Charlie '48 B, '51 CA, '56 WD45 '61 D17, '63 D12, '65 D10 , '68 One-Ninety XTD |
Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2020 at 3:53pm
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Can you measure the OD and ID and get a GENERIC set of VEE rings ? I did that on a couple B tractors several years ago ...Dont know about the price. Since you gave the PN, i assume you bought from dealer.
looks like in general each ring is $6-8 . so your price dont seem too bad !! ------------- Like them all, but love the "B"s. |
Posted By: Dusty MI
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2020 at 3:58pm
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I thought I needed to do that to my D-10 also, but at $87. I made a wrench to fit it just a couple days ago. Dusty ------------- 917 H, '48 G, '65 D-10 series III "Allis Express" |
Posted By: Charlie175
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2020 at 4:13pm
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70230944 is the part # on my part bag The seals are 2" ID and 2 5/8 OD ------------- Charlie '48 B, '51 CA, '56 WD45 '61 D17, '63 D12, '65 D10 , '68 One-Ninety XTD |
Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2020 at 4:53pm
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You could buy individual rings and makeup your own sets IF you know what your doing... https://www.sealsales.com/packing/vpacking16.html" rel="nofollow - https://www.sealsales.com/packing/vpacking16.html ------------- Like them all, but love the "B"s. |
Posted By: Burl
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2020 at 6:26pm
| Thanks much guys ! This is a wealth of info . I am having a fit getting gland nut off . May have to get rough with it . |
Posted By: Burl
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2020 at 6:45pm
| It seems as if that (sealsales) vendor would be a lot cheaper . $25 a side with 5 total rings . I could swing that ! I quess 3000 psi would cover an old machine ?? |
Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2020 at 8:00pm
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The older machines are 3200 psi or so... depending on who has done the adjustments.. I see some rings are "rubber" and some have "FIBER" mixed in.. the fiber should be a little more resistant to wear - damage - pressure.. look at the ones Charlie pulled out.. they are not 100% RUBBER. .......... you only see 3200 psi when STALLED OUT in the raise position.
I think the first 3 rings listed on that page is what your looking for ... FF is female fiber ring (one end)...MF is male fiber ring (one end)... and VF is VEE fiber, the center rings ( i bet there are 3).... and you have to figure the SHIPPING cost ?
------------- Like them all, but love the "B"s. |
Posted By: Charlie175
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2020 at 5:10am
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Yes it used 3 rubber rings ------------- Charlie '48 B, '51 CA, '56 WD45 '61 D17, '63 D12, '65 D10 , '68 One-Ninety XTD |
Posted By: Charlie175
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2020 at 5:16am
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I went ahead and ordered a set for my D10. $50 is the min. order they do so I added an extra rubber ring. $15 shipping. $68 if it works for 20 years I will be money ahead :) ------------- Charlie '48 B, '51 CA, '56 WD45 '61 D17, '63 D12, '65 D10 , '68 One-Ninety XTD |
Posted By: Charlie175
Date Posted: 23 Nov 2020 at 11:47am
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The new seals came in today. The first and last pieces look the same as the AGCO ones The middle ones are the same material as the end pieces. I thought they would have been rubber. I will see of they work when I remember to put them on :)
------------- Charlie '48 B, '51 CA, '56 WD45 '61 D17, '63 D12, '65 D10 , '68 One-Ninety XTD |
Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 24 Nov 2020 at 3:40pm
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when you order the rings, the last two digits of the part number are VF or VH.... the VF is FABRIC ...... the VH is RUBBER....... you can use either... rubber is probably a little softer without the fabric.... bet it works !! ------------- Like them all, but love the "B"s. |
Posted By: Burl
Date Posted: 25 Nov 2020 at 5:09pm
| I should receive my seal by friday. Will put them in this wekend and post the results. Thanks to everyone ! |