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Topic: White 5100
Posted By: Lonn
Subject: White 5100
Date Posted: 07 May 2020 at 3:13pm
Any of you that have or had a 5100 ever have the chain that goes from the drive shaft to the seed unit come off, land on the shaft between the large driven sprocket and the small pesticide sprocket and empty your seed box before you knew it? Monitor just tells me that the unit was planting, not that it was planting 320,000 seeds per acre! Never had that happen before! And it will never happen again when I'm done with it!

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Posted By: brouillettefarms
Date Posted: 07 May 2020 at 6:48pm
Mine did the same thing a few weeks ago, planted beans at 240000. My monitor only alarms it your population is to low not to high.


Posted By: Lonn
Date Posted: 08 May 2020 at 6:24am
Thankfully it only happened the last day I planted but it was corn. I think that row will look more like drill oats than corn! I'm getting rid of those plastic sprockets, they're wore out anyhow, and putting plastic rollers on and I'm going to figure a way to keep that chain from falling to that small shaft. A well placed bolt of some sort.


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Posted By: JimIA
Date Posted: 08 May 2020 at 9:27am
Thats one I have never heard of. But will keep a closer eye on my 5100 from here on out!  

The newer White planters use flat idlers vs the sprockets.

With the exception of not enough down pressure for no-til I really like my 5100.  When you get it set up it is an amazingly accurate planter.

Jim


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Posted By: Lonn
Date Posted: 08 May 2020 at 11:01am
Originally posted by JimIA JimIA wrote:

Thats one I have never heard of. But will keep a closer eye on my 5100 from here on out!  

The newer White planters use flat idlers vs the sprockets.

With the exception of not enough down pressure for no-til I really like my 5100.  When you get it set up it is an amazingly accurate planter.

Jim
It was a shocking development for me. Chain drops from a sprocket that is 7 or 8 inches to a shaft less than an inch diameter really sped the seeding up.


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Posted By: FREEDGUY
Date Posted: 08 May 2020 at 5:57pm
Lonn, I'm a little surprised you don't run a 7000/7200 (finger pick up) JD?


Posted By: Lonn
Date Posted: 09 May 2020 at 7:52am
Originally posted by FREEDGUY FREEDGUY wrote:

Lonn, I'm a little surprised you don't run a 7000/7200 (finger pick up) JD?
Why is that? We used to have a 7000 when I was growing up. A good planter no doubt but higher maintenance. Until a few years ago I used an Allis 330 too. I liked certain things of each over the White but the White has been good. Hard to get at the seed sensors and hard to empty the seed boxes but does a good job. If the Allis 330 was a 6 row I would have kept that. It was very easy to get at everything on the 330.

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Posted By: FREEDGUY
Date Posted: 09 May 2020 at 3:38pm
Does your White require more electricity to run than a 7000 series ?


Posted By: CORLEWFARM
Date Posted: 10 May 2020 at 7:37am
On a 7000 you susposed to recalibrate on a test stand every 200ac per row.


Posted By: Lonn
Date Posted: 10 May 2020 at 12:19pm
Originally posted by FREEDGUY FREEDGUY wrote:


Does your White require more electricity to run than a 7000 series ?
only thing electric is the monitor, same as the 7000.

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Posted By: FREEDGUY
Date Posted: 10 May 2020 at 4:45pm
Thanks Lonn, before we got the JD 7000, dad looked at a 5100 but had electrically driven units ?? He said he wanted NO part of that set-up LOL !! Have never had a belt break in the 13 years it got ran on 35'ish acres(some beans were split rowed though) and the units were calibrated at the seed dealers test stand and came out 99.2% accurate Wink. Granted, it's only a 4/30 Consertill.


Posted By: Poleshed249
Date Posted: 10 May 2020 at 10:48pm
Only the 4 row 5100 had the electric blower option. I bought one this year and then a parts unit shortly after.. they draw about 42 amps for the blower. My sm3 monitor for it actually shows population per row as a scan every 15 seconds a row. The sm1 is like the deer monitor and only shows when it stops of goes way too low.


Posted By: Lonn
Date Posted: 11 May 2020 at 9:55am
Originally posted by FREEDGUY FREEDGUY wrote:

Thanks Lonn, before we got the JD 7000, dad looked at a 5100 but had electrically driven units ?? He said he wanted NO part of that set-up LOL !! Have never had a belt break in the 13 years it got ran on 35'ish acres(some beans were split rowed though) and the units were calibrated at the seed dealers test stand and came out 99.2% accurate Wink. Granted, it's only a 4/30 Consertill.
My 330 had electric blowers and it worked fine. I imagine if you get up to 12 rows or more you'd need pto driven alternator or a really big one on the tractor. Or some have converted them to a hydraulic blower.

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Posted By: FREEDGUY
Date Posted: 11 May 2020 at 5:15pm
Originally posted by Poleshed249 Poleshed249 wrote:

Only the 4 row 5100 had the electric blower option. I bought one this year and then a parts unit shortly after.. they draw about 42 amps for the blower. My sm3 monitor for it actually shows population per row as a scan every 15 seconds a row. The sm1 is like the deer monitor and only shows when it stops of goes way too low.
LOL !! That's the exact row configuration dad looked at !!! Thanks for the reply


Posted By: FREEDGUY
Date Posted: 11 May 2020 at 5:19pm
Lonn, dad was coming off of a JD 494A WITHOUT disc openers of any kind LOL!! The simplicity of our 7000 ground drive is pretty fool proof IMO Smile.



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