Agco tractor question
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Topic: Agco tractor question
Posted By: victoryallis
Subject: Agco tractor question
Date Posted: 10 Mar 2020 at 8:15pm
Any of the orange Agco’s have Cummins motors and Funk transmissions? My knowledge ends at the AC 8000 series.
I know some of the White tractors have that motor tranny combo.
------------- 8030 and 8050MFWD, 7580, 3 6080's, 160, 7060, 175, heirloom D17, Deere 8760
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Posted By: bigal121892
Date Posted: 10 Mar 2020 at 8:20pm
No, only the White's had the Cummins motor, the agco Allis had the Detroit 40 and 50 series engines, which were revamped IH 466 and 531 engines.
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Posted By: MikeKroupa
Date Posted: 10 Mar 2020 at 8:24pm
I have a 2004 DT225 with the C series Cummins and the Funk Powershift. Also have a 2000 AGCO-ALLIS with a DT530E Navistar in front of the Funk Powershift. Both have been good tractors.
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Posted By: victoryallis
Date Posted: 10 Mar 2020 at 8:26pm
bigal121892 wrote:
No, only the White's had the Cummins motor, the agco Allis had the Detroit 40 and 50 series engines, which were revamped IH 466 and 531 engines. |
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------------- 8030 and 8050MFWD, 7580, 3 6080's, 160, 7060, 175, heirloom D17, Deere 8760
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Posted By: MikeKroupa
Date Posted: 10 Mar 2020 at 8:36pm
The RT series AGCO Tractors used the 5.9 and later the 6.7 liter engines. I had an RT130 with the 5.9. I'm pretty certain when the CVT's came along so did the SISU Engines, I believe this was in 2005, please correct me if I'm wrong., Mike
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Posted By: Lonn
Date Posted: 11 Mar 2020 at 7:31am
bigal121892 wrote:
No, only the White's had the Cummins motor, the agco Allis had the Detroit 40 and 50 series engines, which were revamped IH 466 and 531 engines. | I don't think there is one part that will interchange from an IH engine to the Detroit 40 or 50 series.
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Posted By: bigal121892
Date Posted: 11 Mar 2020 at 7:01pm
MikeKroupa wrote:
I have a 2004 DT225 with the C series Cummins and the Funk Powershift. Also have a 2000 AGCO-ALLIS with a DT530E Navistar in front of the Funk Powershift. Both have been good tractors. | Your right, didn't think about the early RT's and DT's.
I thought that Detroit Diesel had purchased the DT466 from Navistar, but after further research, I learned, that Detroit was buying the DT466 engines from Navistar, and adding their own ECM, and selling them as Detroit's. Learn something everyday.
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Posted By: MikeKroupa
Date Posted: 11 Mar 2020 at 8:09pm
The ECM label on our DT530E says Navistar, only thing Detroit about it is the Detroit Series 40 plaque on the valve cover. In some ways I think Navistar didn't want to deal with the OEM's so Detroit Diesel did the leg work and made a few bucks. Once their 60 series truck engine took over the market they gained back their reputation and the Navistar venture was history. At one point in the mid eighties Detroit Diesel for a short time marketed John Deere's 466 in various configurations and horse power ratings to OEM'S. Oddly enough they were also badged the 40 series engine, I have the literature piece in my file. Also many of you know that Navistar has discontinued production of the legendary DT series engines which includes the DT466, which had almost a 45 year production run. , Mike
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Posted By: JohnCO
Date Posted: 11 Mar 2020 at 11:16pm
What do they now make to replace the DT466?
Seems like I heard that JD cast the blocks for Detroit 60 engines. Anyone know if that is true?
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Posted By: darrel in ND
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2020 at 6:44am
My 9755 agco allis has the 530 navistar and the funk 18 speed transmission. Darrel
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Posted By: AC8010
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2020 at 6:07pm
My 04 Rt100 with CVT has a 6.7 Cummins
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Posted By: MikeKroupa
Date Posted: 13 Mar 2020 at 8:40am
Cummins engines will be the replacement for the DT series engines in the Navistar Medium Duty Trucks. Not sure about the Detroits., Mike
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Posted By: CAL(KS)
Date Posted: 13 Mar 2020 at 11:19am
Our 07 RT100 has the Sisu and CVT
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Dad- WD, D17D, D19D, RT100A, 7020, 7080,7580, 2-8550's, 2-S77, HD15
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