CA with broken engine block bell housing
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Topic: CA with broken engine block bell housing
Posted By: WD45 Aaron
Subject: CA with broken engine block bell housing
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2019 at 3:10pm
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Disclaimer: this is not mine CA with loader for sale on facebook with a broken block due to overloading of the loader. Yikes!! Must have gotten very exciting in a short amount of time. https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/2372220072827496/" rel="nofollow - CA broken block from loader ------------- Machinery rescue for all things rusty or broken. Current residents include 3-1/2 WD45s, Oliver Row 77 gas, 88 diesel, Farmall super C, parts C, two Cat D2's, Clark C500-80 forklift, and a sick Kubota. |
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Posted By: Lon(MN)
Date Posted: 14 Nov 2019 at 8:01am
| It would be fun to fix, but around here a good running narrow front CA pin hitch has a hard time selling for $1000. |
Posted By: Wayne180d
Date Posted: 14 Nov 2019 at 8:05am
| Too far for me. That is too big of a loader for a CA I do believe. |
Posted By: Stan R
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2019 at 5:59am
| If I recall, we had a CA with a loader and it had cross bars that ran from the front to the bell housing on each side to help take the stress off the engine block. Doesn't look like this one had those installed. |
Posted By: B26240
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2019 at 6:30am
| I have seen two other CA's broken and their was a piece broke off both the engine block and the bell housing. Can't tell from pics about this one but the others I've seen both castings needed to be changed. |
Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2019 at 6:44am
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Buy the time you buy a different block, and install all the good components of this, if they ARE good, you have more than the value of the tractor in parts and labor. I wouldn't blame the break on the loader. The same thing has happened to G's when operators think they own a dozer. ------------- http://www.ae-ta.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.ae-ta.com Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF |
Posted By: Dick L
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2019 at 7:01am
| More to this than just a heavy load on the loader. No matter how well it ran before it broke the engine is still gone. No different that one that is set up or a cracked block from freezing. It can not run until it is totally rebuilt in a different block. Most likely has a bent drive shaft as well Might even take a different torque tube when inspected. All new gaskets as an added expense. Scrap price at best minis loader that has a fair value. |
Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2019 at 10:16am
| Looks to me like the break area is quite dark in color down low. Been cracked for a long time and then a shock load finished it off. |
Posted By: Ted in NE-OH
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2019 at 10:27am
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A CA with a lo.ader and no power steering is a bear to steer ------------- CA, WD, C, 3 Bs, 2 Gs, WC, I-400, 914 |
Posted By: chaskaduo
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2019 at 11:13am
Even harder broke in half.  ------------- 1938 B, 79 Dynamark 11/36 6spd, 95 Weed-Eater 16hp, 2010 Bolens 14hp |
Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2019 at 3:46pm
Yep, looks like the bottom has been cracked for a good while, the middle has been cracked for some time, and the top is fresh. ------------- http://www.ae-ta.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.ae-ta.com Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF |
DrAllis wrote:Posted By: Steve in NJ
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2019 at 5:45pm
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Hmmmmm.... gives a new meaning to "splitting a Tractor"..........  Steve@B&B ------------- 39'RC, 43'WC, 48'B, 49'G, 50'WF, 65 Big 10, 67'B-110, 75'716H, 2-620's, & a Motorhead wife |
Posted By: Dakota Dave
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2019 at 8:09pm
| A little JB weld itll be good as new |
Posted By: Alberta Phil
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2019 at 12:24pm
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Ya might need a little duct tape to go with the JB weld!! |
Posted By: LouSWPA
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2019 at 1:08pm
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Bailing wire!!!!! lots of bailing wire not sure that is the correct spelling, but ya get where I'm going with that!! ------------- I am still confident of this; I will see the goodness of the Lord in the land of the living. Wait for the Lord; be strong and take heart and wait for the Lord. Ps 27 |
Posted By: chaskaduo
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2019 at 2:37pm
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Lets not forget SuperGlue. ------------- 1938 B, 79 Dynamark 11/36 6spd, 95 Weed-Eater 16hp, 2010 Bolens 14hp |
Posted By: WD45 Aaron
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2019 at 3:36pm
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You guys do make a good point. Adjusting the clutch was never easier. ------------- Machinery rescue for all things rusty or broken. Current residents include 3-1/2 WD45s, Oliver Row 77 gas, 88 diesel, Farmall super C, parts C, two Cat D2's, Clark C500-80 forklift, and a sick Kubota. |
Posted By: chaskaduo
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2019 at 5:36pm
Now that's funny.  ------------- 1938 B, 79 Dynamark 11/36 6spd, 95 Weed-Eater 16hp, 2010 Bolens 14hp |
Posted By: Nathan (SD)
Date Posted: 18 Nov 2019 at 6:20am
| I have a C in the shed that was broke like that and welded back together. |
Posted By: IBWD MIke
Date Posted: 18 Nov 2019 at 8:14am
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She's now on E-bay for anyone interested. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Allis-chalmers-CA-tractor-With-loader-Fix-or-parts/283674501660?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649" rel="nofollow - https://www.ebay.com/itm/Allis-chalmers-CA-tractor-With-loader-Fix-or-parts/283674501660?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649 |
Posted By: Fenlandbob
Date Posted: 09 Jun 2025 at 7:27pm
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Hello, Nathan. An old thread I know, but how did you get on with welding the bellhousing up? I've seen a B for sale with a crack across one of the bellhousing bolts. Going cheap, don't know whether to buy it or not. Many thanks. Regards, Rob. |
Posted By: WD45 Aaron
Date Posted: 09 Jun 2025 at 7:49pm
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Depending how bad it is, your patience, time, and determination it probably could be put back together. You can hot glue it with a good arc welder and high nickel rod. I'll warn you, the rod isn't cheap. Preheat with a torch to around 250-300 degrees. Have a friend help and keep the torch on it while you weld as well as after. Slow cool!! Even better if you can completely bury it in sand or kitty litter. Cross your fingers and hope you don't hear a "tink"! ------------- Machinery rescue for all things rusty or broken. Current residents include 3-1/2 WD45s, Oliver Row 77 gas, 88 diesel, Farmall super C, parts C, two Cat D2's, Clark C500-80 forklift, and a sick Kubota. |
Posted By: BobPaulusCentrOH
Date Posted: 09 Jun 2025 at 8:17pm
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Looks like a 10 Loader for a D10, D12, CA. Dad had a CA8 loader on a tricycle front end CA for years. The link says sold for 700 I would say torque tube on CA would be a weak point. Sorry to see it happen to any CA. |
Posted By: dfwallis
Date Posted: 09 Jun 2025 at 9:24pm
100A was marketed by Allis for those same 3. 1500lbs lift capacity. I haven't looked at the bracing arrangement for the CA (yet). I've beefed my CA up quite a bit by adding a frame to it. If I ever decide to add a loader (and can find one suitable), it will be a smallish one and will mount to the frame which will spread the load out across all of the available mounting contact points. ------------- 1952 CA13092 |
Posted By: Nathan (SD)
Date Posted: 17 Jun 2025 at 6:37am
I didn’t do the welding. I bought it that already repaired. I and the previous owner used it many years. Mine was welded up with nickel rod. |
Posted By: Dakota Dave
Date Posted: 19 Jun 2025 at 9:58am
| I SOLD THE 100 LOADER OFF MY CA It mounted to the rear axle and the front bolster with tie point to the cultivator mount point on the bell housing. Those blocks are cast steel and not that hard to weld. |