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175 or 185 for a second work tractor

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Topic: 175 or 185 for a second work tractor
Posted By: 72AC200
Subject: 175 or 185 for a second work tractor
Date Posted: 29 Oct 2019 at 4:09pm
I have been thanking about getting a 175 gas or 185 diesel for a second work tractor for pulling a 6 row planter, 6ft brush hogging, 3 point mount sprayer, maybe some work with a 14ft RWA disk and maybe some plowing with a 3 bottom and pull wagons at harvest time . I have a 200 to do the tillage work with. I'm thinking about something to do the things that I don't need my 200 to be doing . Any advice would be greatly appreciated.



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Posted By: lowell66dart
Date Posted: 29 Oct 2019 at 5:20pm
Why gas on the 175. The Perkins is a nice diesel and when you put a gear reduction starter on them they really start well.

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Posted By: Kurzy
Date Posted: 29 Oct 2019 at 5:43pm
  Howdy 72AC200,
  Hands down the 185, you can't go wrong with a AC 185!! 

  Kurzy


Posted By: FREEDGUY
Date Posted: 29 Oct 2019 at 5:53pm
Any reason you're omitting a 180 ??


Posted By: plummerscarin
Date Posted: 29 Oct 2019 at 6:13pm
Love using the 185 here


Posted By: DougG
Date Posted: 29 Oct 2019 at 6:33pm
185 FOR SURE ! Perfect fit for that disc, and the hum of that 301 diesel is awesome


Posted By: AC720Man
Date Posted: 29 Oct 2019 at 6:36pm
My best friend has a 175 Diesel with a AC loader on it. It has over 7000 hours on it and has been a great tractor for him. Neighbors have 185’s that have been equally reliable. I guess what I am saying either tractor if it has been properly maintained should give you good service. Now, its a determination of size that suits you best.


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1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD


Posted By: HD6GTOM
Date Posted: 29 Oct 2019 at 7:34pm
185 is large enough to run a big round baler. It would easily pull the equipment you describe. It would have been my choice if I hadn't found my series 4 diesel.


Posted By: victoryallis
Date Posted: 29 Oct 2019 at 7:54pm
6070 or 80

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8030 and 8050MFWD, 7580, 3 6080's, 160, 7060, 175, heirloom D17, Deere 8760


Posted By: jiminnd
Date Posted: 29 Oct 2019 at 8:34pm
I like the 185 for the just about flat floor board, looked at 175 too and didn't like straddling the transmission.

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Posted By: john(MI)
Date Posted: 29 Oct 2019 at 8:41pm
I gotta agree, the D17 would work out great for you for that purpose.


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Posted By: Lonn
Date Posted: 30 Oct 2019 at 6:43am
For a 6 row planter go with the 185.


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Posted By: Trinity45
Date Posted: 30 Oct 2019 at 7:10am
Well if you are going to pull a 14' disk and a 6 row planter I would go with the 185, more power and weight with that 6 cylinder, the 6' bush hog would be a bit small for the 185, I have a 185 and a 6' will not cut out the tire tracks, I have a 7' and it barely cuts out the tracks.  I had a 175 witht a perkins, great tractor easy to start, when my father passed we let it go.


Posted By: DMiller
Date Posted: 30 Oct 2019 at 7:29am
My 180 handles a 3008 8' Bush Hog weighs in at 1800lbs, 540 gearboxes, had to add a 500 loader for ballast to drag that 3 point monster. 185 is same tractor with minor improvements as hydraulic PTO instead of mechanical and option to 1000pto, Running gear is same, hydraulics same. I pull a 540 Massey 12' disc with little issues, have a 4/14 that can pretty much bury and will handle that. Bought a Cough Cough GAG Four row Deere Planter but have not gotten it where I need it to use it yet. Mine still has 18.4 28s rears 9.5L 15s front on it, hard to find 28s at any reasonable price, wish I had 5 rail thirties on it.


Posted By: DanWi
Date Posted: 30 Oct 2019 at 9:00am
A couple of the jobs the 185 would be a little better at. The 175 might be just a hair better for the small jobs. Start looking for 1 of each.


Posted By: bradley6874
Date Posted: 30 Oct 2019 at 10:45am
6080 with cab will be more efficient to operate and the 200 will be the back up

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Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 30 Oct 2019 at 12:47pm
OK, I have to ask, why not another 200 ,same as you have ? Common spare parts, same levers, operation, etc.

I'm thinking the 200 is 'busy' and 3pt can be  PITA to change things... a 2nd tractor would be a blessing.

Just curious....
Jay


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Posted By: DougG
Date Posted: 30 Oct 2019 at 1:06pm
Good point there JB,, they are around very reasonably priced


Posted By: Gary Burnett
Date Posted: 30 Oct 2019 at 2:08pm
If he doesn't want to use the 200 he has now for those jobs why would he want another one use for those jobs? Most 185 tractors I have ever seen have the hydraulic engaging PTO,most 190 and a couple 200 models I've seen have only the mechanical engaging PTO,
that right there would make me choose the 185.


Posted By: allisbred
Date Posted: 30 Oct 2019 at 2:47pm
Sounds like the 185 would be my choice for all around small work. Don’t think the 6ft mower would work well with the 175 or 185. You will appreciate the 185 weight more for the rest of your applications and the 301 has a lot torque at low rpms. We have (1) 175 D, (3) 185’s, (1) 200. All are nice tractors but the 185’s will do most all light tillage and small jobs well. There are a lot of older 185’s out there with the manual PTO, hydraulic was and option on 180,185,200, seems like it was more standard on later tractors.



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