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Posted By: SGTJ
Subject: New To The Forum
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2019 at 12:37pm
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I’ve been sifting through the forum fairly regularly as of late- so I figured I’d sign up! I ended up with two nice tractors this last weekend, so of course I’ve been tinkering with them every spare moment I have. My dad gave me the family tractor now that I have my own place, a nice 53 WD with a New Idea loader. And I picked up a 50 CA along with a planter, cultivator , and 3 bottom plow for the WD (only paid 950$ for the whole shootin match !!) They’ll work quite nice on the hobby farm my wife and I have here in Mauston WI. Anyway, I’m sure as my adventure continues I’ll have way more questions then I already do (for example : is my CA supposed to have a gasket on the air cleaner cup ?) Thanks for all the info that I’ve already picked up from this forum and thanks for all the future help in advance!! -John       
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Posted By: Steve in MI
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2019 at 2:59pm
| nice looking rigs, welcome to the forum |
Posted By: JoeM(GA)
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2019 at 4:22pm
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welcome John, nice tractors! No gasket on the CA air cleaner bowl ------------- Allis Express North Georgia 41 WC,48 UC Cane,7-G's, Ford 345C TLB |
Posted By: Steve in NJ
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2019 at 4:24pm
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Welcome to the Orange family John! Nice Tractors you have there along with some cool implements! Don't be afraid to ask questions. There's always somebody here that can answer them! Good luck with you new farm to! Steve@B&B ------------- 39'RC, 43'WC, 48'B, 49'G, 50'WF, 65 Big 10, 67'B-110, 75'716H, 2-620's, & a Motorhead wife |
Posted By: Sugarmaker
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2019 at 5:24pm
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Great new family members! Welcome! And I like both of them! Thanks for the pictures! Regards, Chris ------------- D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet, 66 F100. |
Posted By: wekracer
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2019 at 10:46pm
| Welcome |
Posted By: Gerald J.
Date Posted: 17 Apr 2019 at 8:02am
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The shop manual for the CA might mention the air filter gasket or lack of a gasket. http://geraldj.networkiowa.com/Trees/Allis-Chalmers-G-B-C-CA-Service.pdf" rel="nofollow - http://geraldj.networkiowa.com/Trees/Allis-Chalmers-G-B-C-CA-Service.pdf Gerald J. |
Posted By: SGTJ
Date Posted: 17 Apr 2019 at 8:16am
I have a service manual that I skimmed through, and it didn't mention any gasket between the bowl and the air cleaner assembly. The latches are quite lose , which is what lead me to think there would be a gasket. The bowl has a tendency to fall off while I'm operating it, and I'd like to refrain from running it so much without oil in the cleaner.
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Gerald J. wrote:Posted By: SGTJ
Date Posted: 17 Apr 2019 at 8:18am
Is there a way I can tighten the clips on the bowl then ? Like I said above - the bowl falls off once and awhile and I'd like to get that squared away before I start using it more, or before I lose the bowl in a field somewhere
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Posted By: Sugarmaker
Date Posted: 17 Apr 2019 at 8:32am
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Humm. Bowl falling off is not a good thing. The WD series does have a gasket. I would think these would too. But there are many guys that have these tractors, and I do not. Oil slopping around and leaking out would not be a great thing either. The WD series has the gasket up in the upper portion of the air box (tube). Small and thin but its there. Biggest thing is not loosing the cup and or running over it. Maybe the latches can be adjusted? Your going to have some shining to do on those 3 bottoms. I assume that are 14 inch bottoms. Have you plowed with those in the past? What a nice gift from your Dad. You now have a "family" tractor" priceless! Regards, Chris ------------- D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet, 66 F100. |
Posted By: SGTJ
Date Posted: 17 Apr 2019 at 8:32am
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Thanks for the PDF Service manual link Gerald J !! Do you know where I can find the operating manual on PDF as well ?
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Posted By: SGTJ
Date Posted: 17 Apr 2019 at 8:36am
Thanks ! I've used a disc but not a plow. I took it out yesterday (most just playing around in the garden) and I didn't work to well  I think your right and I need to shine up the blades. I also think I need to adjust the depth ? It doesn't raise up as high as I'd think it would, and it sure didn't dig to deep (before getting clogged) My grandfather got that WD in the early 60s and its been in the family ever since. She's a faithful old girl and has always worked like a champ
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Posted By: Sugarmaker
Date Posted: 17 Apr 2019 at 9:18am
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Depending on the ground and conditions of the ground. The Wd might have a tough time pulling the 3 bottoms. As noted "your mileage may vary" Guys will come on an tell you they have no problems with the WD pulling those. Maybe in loose dry ground with them moldboards clean it might be good. That's why I was asking if you had used that tractor and plow combination on the farm? Great that your getting out testing the tractor and implements! You provided good pictures! Regards, Chris ------------- D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet, 66 F100. |
Posted By: JaredC(WI)
Date Posted: 17 Apr 2019 at 9:44am
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Another new guy with a ca and hobby farm? Great! Cool that you have family tractors to use. This is a great site with an unbelievable amount of knowledge. What all do you have on the "farm"? We have a few milk goats, chickens, rabbit, and like to mess around with permaculture in relation to the animals, garden, and landscaping. Love your planter! Jared |
Posted By: mdm1
Date Posted: 17 Apr 2019 at 10:36am
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This is the week for new WI guys and their CA's. Welcome to the forum! Great bunch of guys more than willing to share their knowledge. ------------- Everything is impossible until someone does it! WD45-trip loader 1947 c w/woods belly mower, 1939 B, #3 sickle mower 1944 B, 2 1948 G's. Misc other equipment that my wife calls JUNK! |
Posted By: SGTJ
Date Posted: 17 Apr 2019 at 11:05am
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Thanks Jared ! At the moment we only have some laying hens, though we're getting about 30 meat birds at the end of the month, along with some beef cattle. My wife has a lead on some free horses, so knowing her we'll have a few of those as well here soon enough. When we bought the farm, it came with a old New Holland 270 baler that I got running last night. We have about 5 acres of hay at the moment, so the plan is to get a rake and old New Idea Sickle Mower from my father-in-law and put our own hay up this year. I also plan on doing about 2 acres of Sweet Corn for sale (which that planter will come in handy for) ------------- WD , CA |
Posted By: Gerald J.
Date Posted: 17 Apr 2019 at 11:35am
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I don't have a CA operator's manual. I have found lots of manuals at: http://grandpas-tractor-site.s3.amazonaws.com/manuals/ac" rel="nofollow - http://grandpas-tractor-site.s3.amazonaws.com/manuals/ac Gerald J. |
Posted By: JoeM(GA)
Date Posted: 17 Apr 2019 at 1:17pm
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I was going by the parts manual on the gasket, you might "tweek" the clips a bit with needle nose pliers to get a better bite. http://s33.photobucket.com/user/Joecdeere/media/temp%20folder/Screen20Shot202019-04-1720at202.00.3720PM_zpskfthdqkn.png.html" rel="nofollow">  ------------- Allis Express North Georgia 41 WC,48 UC Cane,7-G's, Ford 345C TLB |
Posted By: Sugarmaker
Date Posted: 17 Apr 2019 at 1:24pm
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Thanks JoeM for the details on the CA air box! Sounds like those CA's are falling out of the sky in Wisconsin! Keep your hard hats on when you step outside!:)
Regards, Chris ------------- D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet, 66 F100. |
Posted By: SGTJ
Date Posted: 17 Apr 2019 at 2:04pm
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Looking at that parts breakdown, it seems that one of my clips is broken. That's probably what my issue is. Do you think it would hurt if I made a gasket to act as a shim almost, to put more tension on the clips ? Or I could probably try bending the broken clip so it puts more pressure on the cup. ------------- WD , CA |
Posted By: Sugarmaker
Date Posted: 17 Apr 2019 at 4:56pm
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You might try one of the many suppliers of aftermarket AC parts, they may have those clips in stock? Regards, Chris ------------- D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet, 66 F100. |
Posted By: Don(MO)
Date Posted: 17 Apr 2019 at 5:29pm
Welcome, the plow lift arms need to be turned around like in this shot. ------------- 3 WD45's with power steering,G,D15 fork lift,D19, W-Speed Patrol, "A" Gleaner with a 330 corn head,"66" combine,roto-baler, and lots of Snap Coupler implements to make them work for their keep. |
Posted By: SGTJ
Date Posted: 17 Apr 2019 at 7:28pm
Hey Don , What do you mean by that? I compared the picture you posted to the one I posted above - couldn’t see a difference. I was playing with the adjustments today (prior to the lightning) and I think the turn handle on top is what I need to adjust ------------- WD , CA |
Posted By: Sugarmaker
Date Posted: 17 Apr 2019 at 8:15pm
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SGTJ, The links from the plow to the tractor need to be turned inside out on yours. Not sure how to say it? Maybe I can find some old photo bucket pictures of my plow? This will shorten the link system.   Maybe these will help? That will lift the plows much more for you. Regards, Chris ------------- D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet, 66 F100. |
Posted By: Sugarmaker
Date Posted: 17 Apr 2019 at 8:16pm
Regards, Chris ------------- D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet, 66 F100. |
Posted By: Don(MO)
Date Posted: 17 Apr 2019 at 8:29pm
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SGTJ, I'm sorry for the bad pic, it was the best one I found in my photo bucket pictures . Thanks Chris for the save. ------------- 3 WD45's with power steering,G,D15 fork lift,D19, W-Speed Patrol, "A" Gleaner with a 330 corn head,"66" combine,roto-baler, and lots of Snap Coupler implements to make them work for their keep. |
Posted By: SGTJ
Date Posted: 17 Apr 2019 at 8:44pm
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I’m not a smart man Jenny .... but I’m not tracking. Looking at the pictures you posted, my plow is hooked up the same way.unless there’s something obvious that I’m over looking? What specifically do I need to flip around ?? (Sorry !!! Im lost ) ------------- WD , CA |
Posted By: SGTJ
Date Posted: 17 Apr 2019 at 8:47pm
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Wait the lift arms on the tractor need to be turned ??!! ------------- WD , CA |
Posted By: Sugarmaker
Date Posted: 17 Apr 2019 at 8:55pm
The hinged support system has a knuckle in it and it flips around. remove your vertical lift arm and let it hang down. grab hold of the bottom and move it out to the side and fold it over the horizontal big found support bar. I Probably am not explaining well. Maybe I have another picture? There is a joint at the lower end of your support rods (adjustable arms) that I believe can rotate 180 and the adjusting portion then comes up and around that part. Still doesn't sound right when I am saying it. Regards, Chris ------------- D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet, 66 F100. |
Posted By: Sugarmaker
Date Posted: 17 Apr 2019 at 9:01pm
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SG, Ok even better look at your plow picture. See the arms hanging down. Instead of rotating the arms towards the tires, rotate them to the right and left (outward and upward). Play with it and I think you will see what we mean. Sorry not being able to describe it better. Regards, Chris ------------- D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet, 66 F100. |
Posted By: SGTJ
Date Posted: 17 Apr 2019 at 9:03pm
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Ok if I’m following (and doing a horrible job explaining) The “U” shape at the end of the adjustment arm , or yoke , needs to be up, with the lower assembly of that yoke turned around. Mine is set up with that upper and lower assembly of the yoke allowing more space. I should be able to just spin em around ------------- WD , CA |
Posted By: SGTJ
Date Posted: 17 Apr 2019 at 9:05pm
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Posted By: Sugarmaker
Date Posted: 18 Apr 2019 at 6:26am
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SGTJ, Yes, good job photo editing too! Regards, Chris ------------- D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet, 66 F100. |
Posted By: SGTJ
Date Posted: 18 Apr 2019 at 9:03am
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A pictures worth a thousand words ! Sorry it took me a while but now I know what your talking about. Why would they design it to be so easily put on wrong ?? ------------- WD , CA |
Posted By: JaredC(WI)
Date Posted: 18 Apr 2019 at 9:30am
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John, it's great that you have so much equipment to start with! We're starting from scratch. Sound a lot like us... farming like the 1950's! Good stuff :) Jared |
Posted By: SGTJ
Date Posted: 18 Apr 2019 at 11:11am
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Thanks!! 1950s is right! It’s kinda been my dream to have a small classic style farm. Still very much a work in progress. The CA and attachments was a lucky find! The gentleman had the 3 bottom laying in his yard and I asked him about it on my way home from work ... next thing you know we’re loading the plow PLUS the tractor and attachments. It was a great day that’s for sure ------------- WD , CA |
Posted By: MDWilliams338
Date Posted: 18 Apr 2019 at 6:04pm
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Welcome and nice score on all the AC equipment! ------------- ‘42B,’45B,’48C,’51CA,’52CA,’69170,1935WC,1936WC,WD,WD Highcrop,WD45,WF,D10/14/15/17/19 It isn’t how you die.It’s what you live for.-Daniel Boone |
Posted By: Ted J
Date Posted: 18 Apr 2019 at 9:51pm
Welcome to another Wisconsinite!!  You are one lucky guy!!  There are those of us who have been looking for a CA for a long time and you walk into not only the tractor but some almost impossible machinery to go with it!! GREAT FIND! (PS....you COULD/SHOULD go to jail for stealing this from that guy). I'm not that far away up here in La Crosse, so if you're ever in the area (farm is actually closer to Black River) give me a shout and we can get together. For SOME help, you can go here and get an idea how to do/fix things. http://www.agcopartsbooks.com/PartsBooksN/login.aspx?region=NorthAmerica" rel="nofollow - http://www.agcopartsbooks.com/PartsBooksN/login.aspx?region=NorthAmerica Just sign in as a ' Guest ' put CA in for the Model and under all brands, put in AGCO Allis then hit search. If you just put in C it'll show you a lot more. Play around, it's a BIG help. Over the years, farmers have done a lot of 'changing' of things on these old gals to make it work for them, so some things aren't quite right, but that's what happens in this old world of ours. You're into the bunch of the best guys and gals in the world. You'll have to go around meeting them too. Next big meet is in Baraboo, May 3, 4, 5th. http://www.badgersteamandgas.com/Club_events.htm" rel="nofollow - http://www.badgersteamandgas.com/Club_events.htm It's not just for Allis, but a GREAT show with lots of nice people and for you it's close to home. Sorry for being so long winded, but
------------- "Allis-Express" 19?? WC / 1941 C / 1952 CA / 1956 WD45 / 1957 WD45 / 1958 D-17 |
Posted By: Alex09(WI)
Date Posted: 18 Apr 2019 at 11:19pm
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Glad to see yet another member from WI join this great forum! And another CA yet jeeez! Bettet keep those implements inside if you can, there is not many around anymore, especially that planter! Good find and keep on keepin' Allis Chalmers alive! ------------- www.awtractor.com A&W TRACTOR 920-598-1287 KEEPING ALLIS-CHALMERS IN THE FIELDS THROUGH THE 21ST CENTURY |
Posted By: Mikez
Date Posted: 18 Apr 2019 at 11:24pm
| Alex do you have a manual for him |
Posted By: SGTJ
Date Posted: 19 Apr 2019 at 6:16am
No way !? Closer to Black river you say? Where about -- I grew up / and the folks still live outside of Black River (Ettrick area) Small world ------------- WD , CA |
Posted By: Bob D. (La)
Date Posted: 19 Apr 2019 at 8:03am
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Welcome to the forum SGTJ. You've got a nice collection going. By your handle, I'm guessing you were prior or maybe even present military. If so, Thank You for your service. ------------- When you find yourself in a hole,PUT DOWN THE SHOVEL!!! |
Posted By: SGTJ
Date Posted: 19 Apr 2019 at 10:05am
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No, Thank you for your support (currently serving) ------------- WD , CA |
Posted By: Allan
Date Posted: 21 Apr 2019 at 11:46am
| Hi... I'm looking for some help putting together a set of cultivators on a CA. I need to know if anyone has either a front lift shaft ram extension part number 324571 or how long it is center to center of the pins? My CA has a snap couplet system and parts book shows adapters for the rear furrowing bar to the lift "hands", are there any of those around? Thanks in advance Al |
Posted By: Ted J
Date Posted: 21 Apr 2019 at 10:03pm
------------- "Allis-Express" 19?? WC / 1941 C / 1952 CA / 1956 WD45 / 1957 WD45 / 1958 D-17 |