Wheat Questions
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Topic: Wheat Questions
Posted By: FREEDGUY
Subject: Wheat Questions
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2019 at 6:19pm
| We have NEVER grown wheat on our farm so please bear with me. It is grown in our area both as a $$ crop(mainly the straw) and as a cover/plow down crop. I would love to min-til wheat after this seasons corn crop to say that we finally did it(farm has been COC/BOB'S for 37 years) LOL!! My questions are;what is the price of wheat seed,what is the optimal moisture it is harvested at and are there any fertilizer needs in the fall after a corn crop has been taken off ? Yes, I will get in touch with our local seed rep, but I was curious as to what we might be looking at $$ wise. Thanks |
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Posted By: HD6GTOM
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2019 at 8:18pm
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I have raised wheat. Harvested wheat wouldn't pass a test at the elevator so I sold it for hog feed. I got the seed from the local F/S coop. It yielded good, but had to.take the filler bars out of the cylinder to get it thru the combine. |
Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2019 at 11:52pm
| not sure what the seed costs anymore, harvested wheat brings about the same price as corn at the elevator, 11-15 % moisture, most that grow it here want it for the straw, and the grain is a bonus $$. |
Posted By: klinemar
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2019 at 5:33am
| Better to raise wheat after soybeans as the crop comes off earlier and benefit from nitrogen soybeans leave. If you want to summer fallow that is a good way to keep weeds down without spraying but most farmers can't afford to leave ground bare that long. I don't know of spring planted wheat in Michigan as most varieties are Soft Red in southern Mich and soft white wheat grown in the Thumb of Mich. Most sow wheat from September 20 to October 25. Check with your local farm supply as they should be able to give you input costs. In my area not much wheat was planted last fall as excessive moisture prevented many from planting. Many farmers told me they can't afford wheat as input costs are high versus return. The farmers that do raise wheat either have livestock and need the straw or sell the straw. One farmer told me the straw was what he made money on wheat. Beware of vomitoxin in wheat as elevators discount for that . Vomitoxin is a toxin that comes from mold on the wheat during wet weather shortly before harvest. There is a mold fumigant that can be sprayed on the wheat that helps prevent but application needs to be timely and added cost.One elevator operator told me there is a lot of wheat in storage so the price is down. Once the wheat is used and the processors fear a shortage the price will come back and more wheat will be grown. |
Posted By: Calvin Schmidt
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2019 at 6:09am
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I've grown winter wheat for as long as I've been farming. Not a good idea to grow following corn for several reasons but mostly disease and timing. Works best to follow beans. I no-til into bean ground. Should use a starter fertilizer. To get good yield, you need to spray nitrogen on the wheat in the spring. fungicide spray is also worth the money. Daughter uses the straw in her chicken barn. My soft red wheat yields are now higher than my corn yields were when I started farming more than 40 years ago. 100 bu + is normal around here. It is also called poverty grass but will help yields of corn and beans in a three year rotation. Dry at the elevator is 14% ------------- Nothing is impossible if it is properly financed |
Posted By: FREEDGUY
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2019 at 6:38pm
| Thanks for the replies, I was wondering about the wheat after corn scenario as far as timing but never gave a thought to the "fertilizer" issue. |
Posted By: farmboy520
Date Posted: 07 Apr 2019 at 11:56pm
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I’ve got 2 customers that plant wheat after corn that always yields good. They grow for straw and a place for manure. ------------- On the farm: Agco Allis 9695, 7060, 7010, R66, Farmall H, and Farmall F20 (Great Grandpa's) |
Posted By: Dusty MI
Date Posted: 08 Apr 2019 at 8:13am
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Often times wheat after corn taken off for silage. Often times a field was summer fowled, which was a way of controlling/killing weeds. ------------- 917 H, '48 G, '65 D-10 series III "Allis Express" |
Posted By: DMiller
Date Posted: 08 Apr 2019 at 8:34am
| Most here run wheat after corn for silage as well. Not so much harvested grain as much a feed stock and a ground cover. |
Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 08 Apr 2019 at 9:36am
| If I were to do it after corn, it would be after silage corn, not grain corn. First of all, the timing would be WAY off in this area, and second, too much risk of Fusarium in corn residue. Yeah, you can spray for it......as if there's margin in wheat to afford the hassle! |
Posted By: ac fleet
Date Posted: 08 Apr 2019 at 10:23am
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We grew wheat here for several years, after beans and fertilize heavy, (starter in fall, then 200 pounds of urea in early spring) had 128 bu. yield, almost double that of corn. We used a 3 year rotation. The wheat was the only crop that ever made any real money for us! ------------- http://machinebuildersnetwork.com/ |
Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 08 Apr 2019 at 1:28pm
That's interesting ac fleet. In many ways actually.... "double that of corn", in dollars, bushels, or both? 64 bu corn in IL, and ground that would produce that kind of wheat???  What years are we talking here, time frame? Just trying to understand.
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ac fleet wrote:Posted By: FREEDGUY
Date Posted: 08 Apr 2019 at 8:04pm
I must admit, we have a local that is interested in the straw out of the F2 and my thoughts were to double crop beans for 1 last time before the inevitible "retirement" sale  . I am not looking to add thousands of bushels to an already saturated supply of wheat in this nation,we only have 36 acres tillable LOL!! Thanks to all that replied and have a safe planting season !!
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