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Topic: Well crap
Posted By: thendrix
Subject: Well crap
Date Posted: 13 Mar 2019 at 5:05pm
Had trees cleared/thinned on the site for the new farm and got on the neighbors property when we were cutting trees. The whole thing was error on a couple folks part but it's my fault because I said go. When the surveyor was there he didn't mark the property line, just the two corners. Said he would come back and mark the line. While the loggers were there, they were getting close to done on one side and I asked the forester if he thought we could mark the line because it appears to be a due east, west line and there's no bearing on the survey so we assumed it was straight east. He said "I'll see what I can find. We do that a lot". Turns out it's ALMOST due east. It's a line that's about 1800 feet long and the last 200 or so feet of the foresters line crossed into the neighbors property. The neighbor is a timber company that we bought our land from. We didn't know they crossed the line until last week when the surveyor came back. Well, I called the forester and the rep from the timber company and we walked it and I showed them everything. Turns out we too about 25 trees from their side. I was hopeful that being honest and it being a small mistake, we would get by. But I was wrong. $976 is what they figure we owe in timber and time. The forester has insisted that he pay half because he marked it wrong. I was going to pay the whole thing because I said go without waiting on the surveyor. Either way it just sucks

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Posted By: FloydKS
Date Posted: 13 Mar 2019 at 5:27pm
We all make "snap judgement" and sometimes they are not 'on the mark'... maybe the good news is your guy is willing to accept part of the did this too quick factor.


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Posted By: thendrix
Date Posted: 13 Mar 2019 at 6:54pm
Yeah he's a really good fella. He wanted to pay the whole thing but I told him I was going to because I said "go". Just an expensive lesson to learn but one I'll remember.

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Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 13 Mar 2019 at 7:23pm
Look at it this way, for less than $1,000 you've got a neighbour who KNOWS you're honest and up front, you've got a timber cutting company that likes you AND you got a surveyor who owes you 'one'.
I'd have thought the trees could have been 'worth' $1,000 EACH...just saying..
no one got hurt, no name calling, no bad blood....
You came out making everyone happy



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Posted By: DMiller
Date Posted: 13 Mar 2019 at 7:43pm
At least were honest with them, many loggers in Central MO will cross fences for quality trees and ignore any later calls or insults.


Posted By: thendrix
Date Posted: 13 Mar 2019 at 8:00pm
Yeah as soon as I found it I could hear Pawpaw saying "you get your ass in there and call that man".

They've got around 30 acres clear cut that might be a lease/purchase possibility in the future. Hoping maybe this will help with the price when it comes to that

As for that surveyor, when I'm done with him this time, I'm done with him. We had to put off our closing twice because of him not getting things done. He's done the engineering on a lot of poultry farm bring built here lately and from what I've heard from the bank, mine might be the last one for him

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Posted By: Hubert (Ga)engine7
Date Posted: 13 Mar 2019 at 8:03pm
You came out good on that one, everything brought out into the open and no hard feelings, and it seems that everyone has more respect for each other now. Some lessons can be more expensive that others. I would have thought it would be a lot more expensive for 25 trees. Were they pulpwood, chip and saw, or timber size?

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Posted By: DaveKamp
Date Posted: 13 Mar 2019 at 8:30pm
It sounds like a bad situation, followed by a blessing.  Pay them!  Wink  and offer to replant per their specification.


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Posted By: thendrix
Date Posted: 13 Mar 2019 at 9:37pm
Originally posted by Hubert (Ga)engine7 Hubert (Ga)engine7 wrote:

You came out good on that one, everything brought out into the open and no hard feelings, and it seems that everyone has more respect for each other now. Some lessons can be more expensive that others. I would have thought it would be a lot more expensive for 25 trees. Were they pulpwood, chip and saw, or timber size?


20 pine saw logs, 3 pine pulp, 2 hardwood pulp

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Posted By: Ted J
Date Posted: 14 Mar 2019 at 3:14am
You did DANG GOOD on that one Tyler!!  Getting by with only $40 per tree.......that's kinda like stealing.  Of course it depends on how big they were too......
Yep, you made a mistake and it made you some friends.  You being honest and up front made them look at it in a new light I think.


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Posted By: JohnCO
Date Posted: 15 Mar 2019 at 11:48pm
Back in the 1950's my neighbors either inherited or bought some woodland in Arkansas, a few years later they went back to discover all the marketable timber had been cut.  Nobody knew nothing.


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Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 15 Mar 2019 at 11:58pm
that's to bad Tyler...had good intentions, just wasn't the right ones. think we've all been there on that. you gots paid from the ones off your property...right? I agree with Jay and Dave.



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