Coyotes
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Topic: Coyotes
Posted By: Ranse
Subject: Coyotes
Date Posted: 12 Jan 2019 at 12:03am
I never had any coyote trouble at all until here recent. One morning a few weeks ago I saw two eating a newborn calf. I considered getting a donkey. I even posted a topic about it. I haven't had any loses since, although I have seen a single coyote roaming around twice since that morning. I had a new calf this morning. 15 minutes after mama and baby joined the herd, I saw a coyote sniffing around were the calf was born. I jumped in the truck, run home, and got the gun. When I got back it was gone, so I went out to check out the spot. Before I got there the coyote came back out. It was a long shot, but I took it anyway. I missed. Oddly enough, the coyote actually ran closer to me as it run. I had to use the rifle like a shotgun and dropped the coyote on the run like a rabbit. It was all luck, I'm not that good. So one female coyote down. She didn't look like she had been nursing pups. Wrong time of the year I guess. Taken with a Remington model 700, 30-06. I know I may look proud as a peacock in that photo, but I don't take killing animals lightly. I've got nothing against people who hunt, but I don't kill for pleasure anymore. I felt this was necessary. |
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Posted By: dawntreader74
Date Posted: 12 Jan 2019 at 1:39am
| had to do that before. a good old mule will sure end that crap' they don't come around a mule or donkey if they know whats good for them. |
Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 12 Jan 2019 at 3:01am
| come on over here....we gots 2 packs of them running, they seem to be staying in the area too. must be a lot for them to eat out there yet! they are driving my dogs nuts! getting so I gotta carry a rifle when I go out too, the dude I let hunt here says his game cam shows them running out back at 0930 AM yet. |
Posted By: LeonR2013
Date Posted: 12 Jan 2019 at 3:11am
| Shameless, what the heck are you doing up at this time of night? |
Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 12 Jan 2019 at 3:13am
| got up to let one of the pup's out, he really had to go! what about you? |
Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 12 Jan 2019 at 3:14am
| be time for coffee in town in an hour, just as well stay up! |
Posted By: DiyDave
Date Posted: 12 Jan 2019 at 4:54am
Sometimes, if you are still hunting them, if you whistle one short blast, they will stop runnin, and look around... Perfect opportunity to get a shot off...
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Posted By: Pat the Plumber CIL
Date Posted: 12 Jan 2019 at 9:26am
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Good job Ranse !!! Removing a female will help reduce future problems. If you only shot once it is hard to locate where the shot came from. I have a good friend who loves to hunt coyotes, calls them in and zaps them with a rifle with a high powered red light at night. These varmints are extremely wary. Very hard to eliminate coyotes. When numbers are low they breed under duress. Read an article from a top US Forest game manger. He claimed best way to deal with coyotes is to constantly harass them . Shoot at them whenever you see one. Give them an inherent fear of man . Trap with snares so you can release dogs or pets. You will never get rid of them but they will want to hunt where they are not bothered ------------- You only need to know 3 things to be a plumber;Crap rolls down hill,Hot is on the left and Don't bite your fingernails 1964 D-17 SIV 3 Pt.WF,1964 D-15 Ser II 3pt.WF ,1960 D-17 SI NF,1956 WD 45 WF. |
Posted By: Ken in Texas
Date Posted: 12 Jan 2019 at 10:43am
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I hear the Coyotes screaming up a storm every evening as soon as it gets dark. There must be more than one pack. The Howling can come from 2 directions at once. I put the guts, head and hide from the hog I trapped in a open place behind the house night before last. There was not a hair left by morning. Last night I set up my Game Cam next to the trimmings from cutting the pig up. Same place. it rained so there were plenty of Coyote tracks where the trimmings were. Just my luck the game cam malfunctioned and nothing was on the chip to show you guys. We once raised sheep and free range chickens. Never lost a sheep or lamb to Coyotes. They sure got enough of our chickens. Even up in the day. If I came home from work on Friday to hear a Coyote got another chicken right after I left for work. On Saturday I would get out my trusty 30 06 loaded with 110 grain hollow points and ambush me a Chicken eatin Coyote. I forgot to mention I had a big white guard dog with my sheep 24-7 No more free range chicken. They are in a varmit proof pen and coop. If I wanted to kill coyotes I could by trapping or calling them up and shooting them. Right now I have no reason. Right now Feral Hogs are my problem. Beside that they taste good any way you fix pork.
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Posted By: JoeO(C-MO)
Date Posted: 12 Jan 2019 at 11:11am
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Ranse wrote:Posted By: Wayne180d
Date Posted: 12 Jan 2019 at 11:29am
| One visited my house Christmas night got one of my breeder ducks and one of my guineas. Haven't been able to get a shot off yet. |
Posted By: JC-WI
Date Posted: 12 Jan 2019 at 1:41pm
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Got them ugly critters all around the place, and use to have two good dogs that kept them at bay... now just one old dog that don't bother to go after them. Lately them fool things are getting closer into the yard and by the time I gets a good light ans gun, they is gone. But when they gets real quiet, the wolfies are around... We use to have lots of pheasants around, but now there are hardly any... needto remove a bunch of the woodlot dogs. ------------- He who says there is no evil has already deceived himself The truth is the truth, sugar coated or not. Trawler II says, "Remember that." |
Posted By: Sugarmaker
Date Posted: 12 Jan 2019 at 6:22pm
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Ranse, You did good! Nice shootin too! We have been hunting deer for the last two weeks and pushed out one yote. Regards, Chris ------------- D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet. |
Posted By: DiyDave
Date Posted: 12 Jan 2019 at 6:27pm
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I usedta see 1 or 2 coydogs, when I called foxes. Hadda caller, and the best thing to do was to sit behind a round bale, when you see 'em coming, I hadda white teddy bear onna string, pull the string, and and man the fox would just come a runnin fer that! Coyotes were smarter, would wait a little, and go in. Every coyote that gets away must tell the rest how they did it, cause they get real smart, real fast!
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Posted By: JohnCO
Date Posted: 12 Jan 2019 at 7:04pm
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My neighbor lost a couple sheep to them. Put a tiny blinking red light on the fences and have not had a problem since then. Still hear them but I guess they are scared of the red light. Read somewhere that this time of the year is breeding season for them, don't know if that is true everywhere or not. ------------- "If at first you don't succeed, get a bigger hammer" Allis Express participant |
Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 12 Jan 2019 at 7:30pm
| I've used blinky and moving lights before, they seem to last awhile on most all critters, but they soon become accustomed to it and it don't so good then. |
Posted By: ocharry
Date Posted: 12 Jan 2019 at 8:08pm
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With all this pretty shi....stuff I am guessing they will be hungry and out lookin for a meal I will prolly be watching for them....they will prolly stick out like a sore thumb in this deep white stuff Ocharry |
Posted By: JohnCO
Date Posted: 12 Jan 2019 at 11:27pm
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My neighbors flashing red lights have been up over a year now and still they haven't been near the sheep pen since she put them up. I kind of figured they would get used to them too but so far, so good. ------------- "If at first you don't succeed, get a bigger hammer" Allis Express participant |
Posted By: Ted J
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2019 at 1:37am
Ranse, shooting these critters is just protecting your herd. There was a reason they were almost extinct, along with the wolves. But all the doo-gooders wanted em back. Well, they should have put them back in central park in New York. They once roamed there, but you never hear of the DNR putting em back there do you? ------------- "Allis-Express" 19?? WC / 1941 C / 1952 CA / 1956 WD45 / 1957 WD45 / 1958 D-17 |
Posted By: JC-WI
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2019 at 2:19am
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Ranse, if you can't smile for yourself, I thanks you for smiling for me... I am back at the point that the only good coyote or wolf is a good and dead coyote or wolf, along with dead mangie foxes and stinky skunks and gophers and..... ------------- He who says there is no evil has already deceived himself The truth is the truth, sugar coated or not. Trawler II says, "Remember that." |
Posted By: Ken in Texas
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2019 at 9:56am
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Are Coyote Furs worth the trouble of pelting one out? |
Posted By: Sugarmaker
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2019 at 10:17am
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I doubt if there worth much but our oldest son wants one to have a full mount done! Regards, Chris ------------- D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet. |
Posted By: Stan IL&TN
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2019 at 10:49am
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Up at the farm I hear them yelping nightly. My trail cameras usually have 90% deer, 5% coyote and 5% of everything else that walks by. Still waiting for Big Foot.😜 ------------- 1957 WD45 dad's first AC 1968 one-seventy 1956 F40 Ferguson |
Posted By: Ranse
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2019 at 12:46pm
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Ted, folks, I will say after the first shot, the coyote did run straight at me for a second or two. It had to have got at least fifty yards closer. Then it turned toward the woods, so I had a nice broad side shot. I did use the scope, but didn't exactly take aim. I just led the coyote kind of like shooting skeet. I was really surprised to see it fall. I stepped off the distance. I had to guess about were I was standing, but it was approximately 160 yards. So there was some luck involved. Since the decline of quail, I really don't hunt anymore. I've tried turkey hunting a few times but wasn't very successful at it. I decided I enjoyed seeing wildlife more than killing it. Even though I don't kill for pleasure anymore, I must confess, I did receive pleasure from killing this coyote. |
Posted By: Tim NH
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2019 at 1:40pm
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Ranse, about 5 years ago the coyotes were thick that summer. Started carrying a Winchester 30-30. One day I was round baling and I see one running across the field. Threw it in neutral, he's jumping over the windrows about 200' out. I got him, guts were falling out and he crashed. When I was done I checked, and it was dead. I don't know if they eat their own, but the next day it was gone. I've seen them going around the fields checking the windrows for mice, no rifle w/ me of course. Tim ------------- 1950 WD 1959 D14 1955 WD45 1976 7000 B 207 |
Posted By: Clay
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2019 at 8:33am
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If a person is not a good shot or is against shooting coyotes, there is an alternative. Place an ACME catalog and some ACME products in the pasture. The coyotes will try the ACME stuff and that should take care of the problem.
I know it works because I saw it on TV Saturday morning info-mmercials. |
Posted By: chaskaduo
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2019 at 11:44am
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Clay Iv'e seen em too, but I can't find a catalog. ------------- 1938 B, 79 Dynamark 11/36 6spd, 95 Weed-Eater 16hp, 2010 Bolens 14hp |
Posted By: Brian Jasper co. Ia
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2019 at 12:51pm
------------- "Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the government take care of him better take a closer look at the American Indian." Henry Ford |
Posted By: allisrutledge
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2019 at 10:04pm
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Rance, if you want more practice come on up, plenty here. I'll even furnish the lead! ------------- Allis Chalmers still exist in my mind and barns |
Posted By: Ted J
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2019 at 10:46pm
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Ranse, that shot comes instinctively because you used the rifle like a shotgun. Nice goin!! If you THINK about the shot, you'll miss almost every time. Tim, with a 30-30, that was a GREAT shot...200 is a long ways with that little brush gun. Now if you were using the new soft tips, that's different. I've made paper plates out to 275. They are and always be the most FUN gun!! ------------- "Allis-Express" 19?? WC / 1941 C / 1952 CA / 1956 WD45 / 1957 WD45 / 1958 D-17 |
Posted By: HD6GTOM
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2019 at 1:01am
| We useta have a whole lot of guys hunt them here. Unfortunately they have gotten old and their sons that used ta hunt with them got hitched up with a young gals. Nobody's hunting them anymore. |
Posted By: Hubert (Ga)engine7
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2019 at 4:29am
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Ranse, that was a good shot, maybe a bit of luck involved. Harder to make a shot like that with a scoped rifle than with open sights. And that is one NICE model 700, IMHO one of the best centerfire rifles made. And dang it I only have one - 7mm-08. ------------- Just an old country boy saved by the grace of God. |
Posted By: ac fleet
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2019 at 3:30pm
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Blinkies don't even slow them down. 12ga 3" mag. BB loads however will. --Problem is they only come at night when you can't see them. |
Posted By: DMiller
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2019 at 4:48pm
| Pack out close to here had pups last year, trapper got most of them but a mating pair still run the low hiding spots. I got two two years ago where they figured out near the house is Death and stay well away so am working on my 400yd skills practicing. May get a chance across the valley in my Brome field I can see from the Deck. |
Posted By: DaveKamp
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2019 at 8:22pm
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They're exceptionally sly here... they yip and howl, but stay very well out of the illumination. i've tried baiting and calling them in, and they don't. neighbor guys wait till it's good and cold, with a fresh layer of snow, then set up positions, and have one or two guys walk through the trees along the creeks, and once they're up and running, they call out the spots. I was listening on the radio (they didn't know it), but I heard 'em calling out one that was out-of-reach of their positions. I took my rifle up to the third story window, and spotted it... it stopped for just long enough to catch a flying 90gr 243. When it dropped, they all saw it go down... it was fun listening to 'em all talking, tryin' to figure out who took the shot. ;-) ------------- Ten Amendments, Ten Commandments, and one Golden Rule solve most every problem. Citrus hand-cleaner with Pumice does the rest. |
Posted By: Hubert (Ga)engine7
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2019 at 9:15pm
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Thinking of getting a night vision scope. Only problem is I will need to buy a rifle to mount it on. There are some good ones out there now at reasonable prices. Then maybe I can thin out the coyotes and hogs. ------------- Just an old country boy saved by the grace of God. |
Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2019 at 7:53am
| had 2 deer hit this week so far by vehicles, night time the coyotes knaw on them, daytime they get picked by 2 eagles. |
Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2019 at 8:45am
That's the way they do it over here too Dave. There used to be a whole bunch that spent the winter hunting them. They usually got 20 or so if there were several snows. The last few years, it's been one of the few still living, his 2 sons, maybe a couple of the boys friends and sometimes my brother. Sunday morning , brother and 3 others got 5 of them by 11 in the morning. They got 2 yesterday without any fresh snow. Last year that small group killed 19 of them in about 3 days. That was early February when the males come from all over to find a female. The neighbors boy and my brother both started using an AR. If you see one runnin at 200 yards, you don't have to bolt the thing to shoot again and can easy see the snow fly if you miss. I hunted with them before, but used a 12 gauge, with 3 inch mag BB shot. Now days, 4 buck is legal to use in Illinois. You still have to have a 30 to 40 yard shot to knock one down, and best to hit em square in the face with the shotgun. ------------- http://www.ae-ta.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.ae-ta.com Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF |
Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2019 at 8:46am
 ------------- http://www.ae-ta.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.ae-ta.com Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF |
Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2019 at 8:48am
 ------------- http://www.ae-ta.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.ae-ta.com Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF |
Posted By: DMiller
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2019 at 10:11am
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Have to laugh, Mother in Law was from Maryland Heights MO, West St Louis County, born and raised. The locals were having deer issues, eating all the High Dollar have to be replaced shrubbery and Insurance Does NOT pay for animal damages!! That led to calls INSISTING On having Dept Of Conservation trying to round up the deer to transplant where many died as transported(stressed) some died from lack of area placed in knowledge so Step 2, allowed the hunting BY BOW in the Suburbia landscape, OMG the PETA Morons were on that as stink to a skunk, still happens just quieter. THEN came the Coyotes, smell of blood, Trash with meat in it, small pets started disappearing, a few were seen taken by Yotes, Cats all but disappeared so MORE Calls to trap(LIVE) and replant, but that failed MISERABLY as the Coyotes RAPIDLY learned of human scented traps. Still more pets go away, now the PETA AND the Locals agree that they may be trapped and killed HOWEVER, few trappers still exist, been run off, do NOT want to come back and get run off again. So long story short, St Louis County has and will CONTINUE to have a Coyote problem ALL Thanks to the Idiots that stopped firearms hunting and trapping DECADES ago. |
Posted By: Ray54
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2019 at 3:14pm
Amazing you can smarten some part of the know everything bunch up,once in a while.But as the old saying goes "nothing new under the sun" old Wiley E is going catch what he can. So Fluffy better look out for itself, or some Snowflake is going to have a new reason to need a support animal. 
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Posted By: DiyDave
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2019 at 6:15pm
Might be the best thing, to give a snowflake a coyote, AS a support animal...
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Posted By: klinemar
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2019 at 6:59pm
| Coyotes have been Yipping at night lately,getting ready for mating season. Friend of mine and I bought 6.5 Creedmoor Rifles because OUR DNR says we can not use a caliber larger than .269 at night. We can use lights, night vision or thermal imaging. Just no .270 or larger caliber! Go figure! |
Posted By: Ray54
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2019 at 12:52pm
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Dave that is a real good idea. Just need to get past the Fish&Wildlife officer that thinks he is the keeper of them. But said officer could well be a Snowflake as well today. Be fun to see the Snowflakes missing body parts
   from coyote chewing them off in place food the flake forgot to provide.
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