new roof, not
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Topic: new roof, not
Posted By: jaybmiller
Subject: new roof, not
Date Posted: 24 Aug 2018 at 6:24am
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Ah, here we go again. This time it's the garage reroof. Had 3 pros quote on total job. strip,repair 2 foot damage,ice/water,25yr shingles. All 3 pro companies said 1 day job, $3000. $1,000 in material. main is 7/12 pitch ,bumpout is 3/12 so 100 ice/water. So... the 'contractor' StepSON gets the job. He started last Friday. Started, consisted fn ME having to unload his truck of the skid of shingles. 1st I had to bodge the neutral start switch on the forklift,and he was 'impatient' about that. great....oh well, it'll be done by Monday right ? WRONG..... HE doesn't work weekends. Monday came and went,though he dropped off dump trailer Shows up Tuesday,I have to get MY ladders back from great neighbours that I'd loaned them to as the 'contractor' didn't bring his....so neighbours are not 'happy'. He takes 3 days to ALMOST finish 1 side of the main roof,yesterday quit at 3:15,.started at 9ish. I'd at least cutoff the flappy overhanging ends off the shingles BEFORE Mother Nature sees them. Oh well...he's the pro, right? Supposed to be here today to cut/trim and reinstall the solar system.I figure 1/2hr to trim the ends, 1 hr to hookup the solar (that I did 20 yr ago).He and son will probably take all morning for the trim, have a 2hr lunch with mom, then 1/2 do the solar. I'm betting by 3 he'll be gone and oh yeah...won't be back until 'sometime' next week. New wrinkle...paying for full strip BUT 'they' decided they'll cover the north side shingles with the new ones. Yup the 'pro' is here again..... Thanks for the vent which reminds me , we specked new, HIGH flow vents to replace the 5 lowprofile ones..hmm..the ones he got are the SAME as the 20yr old ones on the roof... Maybe it's a good thing I'm fighting cityhall about the liquid tar runoff that's in my 1/4 acre garden from the 'grind/chi/tar' they did to the road... Jay ------------- 3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112 Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor) Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water |
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Posted By: Hubert (Ga)engine7
Date Posted: 24 Aug 2018 at 7:29am
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Darn you just can’t win for losing. And Mama won’t admit that her pride and joy is no contractor but a sorry pos. Bet he doesn’t get any repeat business from anyone else he has done work for. ------------- Just an old country boy saved by the grace of God. |
Posted By: JoeM(GA)
Date Posted: 24 Aug 2018 at 7:51am
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Jay, all I can say is you have more patience and tolerance than I ! “Scooter” would only be welcome to eat with his mom and leave at my house, I’m sure it’s a challenge to bite your tongue!, but If momma ain’t happy, nobody is gonna be happy. Entertain yourself with the city and it will blow on by! If it would make you feel better, I’d gladly send my future “son-in-bum” to help out! We all have them! ------------- Allis Express North Georgia 41 WC,48 UC Cane,7-G's, Ford 345C TLB |
Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 24 Aug 2018 at 8:04am
| dang man...welcome to my world! don't give the "stockholders" his name, or they'll prolly hire him! they hired one just about as bad for this roof. they over ordered, then took the excess home with them, we are still finding nails in the yard and driveway. the dumpster trailer was next to the house. |
Posted By: Stan IL&TN
Date Posted: 24 Aug 2018 at 8:23am
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Jay I'll be praying for your patience and his healing should the first run out. ------------- 1957 WD45 dad's first AC 1968 one-seventy 1956 F40 Ferguson |
Posted By: Red Bank
Date Posted: 24 Aug 2018 at 8:35am
| The good news is you get to spend some quality time with your stepson. The bad news is you will probably end up with him moving in because if he works like that he won't be working long when word gets out. And the other bad news is every time you look at the roof you won't be happy. I feel your pain but working with family is tough. |
Posted By: fixer1958
Date Posted: 24 Aug 2018 at 9:04am
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I guess 'accidentally' squeezing him around the throat a little bit probably wouldn't help much would it. I feel the frustration you are going through. The throat hug I know myself would be my personal first inclination. Don't ask me how I know that. Patience is like a short on ramp onto a busy freeway, it only goes so far before you are riding the rumble strips and the shoulder. |
Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 24 Aug 2018 at 1:10pm
| I also wonder if Jay is his only customer? |
Posted By: Coke-in-MN
Date Posted: 24 Aug 2018 at 1:24pm
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Hmm - here they do not allow a 2nd layer of shingles any more - all roofs need complete tear off and ice / water sheeting a minimum of 36" up from measurement from outside wall . So if you have 24" or 12" overhang 2 - 36" rows are needed to meet code Venting option is preferred to be ridge venting and or venting of unheated spaces in finished attics . Seems when he needs to remove new shingles to tear off old shingles underneath them when city inspector tags the job - might be ticked at whoever turned him in . ------------- Faith isn't a jump in the dark. It is a walk in the light. Faith is not guessing; it is knowing something. "Challenges are what make life interesting; overcoming them is what makes life meaningful." |
Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 24 Aug 2018 at 4:30pm
OK, so the kid has some trouble with shingles... Just set back and remember the GREAT JOB ON THE BATHROOM !!!   ------------- Like them all, but love the "B"s. |
Posted By: DougG
Date Posted: 24 Aug 2018 at 5:23pm
| Red Bank is right ! Give it time ! |
Posted By: JoeM(GA)
Date Posted: 24 Aug 2018 at 7:51pm
ouch!!! ------------- Allis Express North Georgia 41 WC,48 UC Cane,7-G's, Ford 345C TLB |
steve(ill) wrote:Posted By: Ted J
Date Posted: 03 Sep 2018 at 1:23pm
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How can you get him to fall off the roof and break his own neck??? Hmmmmm ------------- "Allis-Express" 19?? WC / 1941 C / 1952 CA / 1956 WD45 / 1957 WD45 / 1958 D-17 |
Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 03 Sep 2018 at 1:33pm
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Yeah Ted, the guy would SUE me... funny thing, sorry no pictures, but he(40ish) and his son(20ish) were in 5 point harnesses,tied off to peak of roof MEANWHILE 81 year old neighbour is up there with zero ropes..... update...NO sign of the contractor... roof 1/3rd done and solar was reinstalled wrong... neighbour wondered why gable end door was open...arrgh... youknowwho..left it open, pissing rain here too..... I had to close it...cause ,of course 'he' doesn't work weekends... sigh.. I was on 24hr call when I had our energy control system though, guess times have hanged...used to be the customer was always reight, in his mind the 'contractor' is... Jay ------------- 3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112 Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor) Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water |
Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 15 Sep 2018 at 9:58am
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update: OK, it's ONLY been 29 dayze since 'he' started the ONE DAY reroof...sigh neighbour had his garage reroofed(proper ALL old shingle tore up, ice/water shield,flashing, a PRO job... good news is I don't live in NC or SC Jay ------------- 3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112 Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor) Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water |
Posted By: Ray54
Date Posted: 15 Sep 2018 at 11:07am
Your lucky day send him down to fix  the Florence damage,then with mister speedy out of the way get it done right.I know your not that kind of guy that would wish mister speedy on others. But I figured you could at least dream a liittle.
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Posted By: Ted J
Date Posted: 16 Sep 2018 at 8:20pm
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Yeah, if'n you can't get him to break his neck, maybe he'll git down south and drown! ------------- "Allis-Express" 19?? WC / 1941 C / 1952 CA / 1956 WD45 / 1957 WD45 / 1958 D-17 |
Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 29 Sep 2018 at 6:21am
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update: well it's been 37 dayze since the 1 day roof job began... other neighbour had prety brown barnmaster roofing installed, took 4 hrs that included all the soffit/facia/etc. wife said she liked it, wondered why 'we' didn't go with metal( out house is BTW). I bit my tonque knowing the 'contractor' had TOLD his mama that 50yr shingles would be better. today I notice the GREAT patio door, he installed of course, has BOTH panes leaking( mist inside...),which reminded me the kitchen windw , he broke, 2 years ago ,actually leaks far worse... also had to acquire and store some skids so I can lift the shingle up to the roof for him... sigh.. I've bet myself that Shamless will test his machine before the 1 day roofing job is complete.. Jay ------------- 3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112 Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor) Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water |
Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 29 Sep 2018 at 7:21am
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So, if the kid asks for REFERENCES, for a future job, im guessing your advice is "GIVE HIM A CHANCE... I have several times !" ... ?? ------------- Like them all, but love the "B"s. |
Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 30 Sep 2018 at 12:05am
| i'll try to hold off...just for you Jay....but I sure gots that "itch" for the pretty! no....it's not a nose itch! lol |
Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 05 Oct 2018 at 6:50pm
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update: well it's day 43 of a 1 day roof job.... seems he has time to drink my wine but not to put up the other 1/2 of the roof today. sigh. ------------- 3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112 Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor) Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water |
Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 05 Oct 2018 at 8:16pm
| i'd just hire someone else to finish it! |
Posted By: Alberta Phil
Date Posted: 05 Oct 2018 at 8:24pm
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Lock up the wine!! |
Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 05 Oct 2018 at 8:51pm
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Shameless, ain't no way I can do that...no passport ! without that I'm stuck here, between the contractor and mama. Thankfully I get to play with the Kubota, moving pony poop an digging a 300' diversion trench. ------------- 3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112 Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor) Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water |
Posted By: DiyDave
Date Posted: 05 Oct 2018 at 9:05pm
Did I hear a request? [TUBE]sxUpyfQ0A5o[/TUBE]
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Posted By: tadams(OH)
Date Posted: 06 Oct 2018 at 2:48pm
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I won't buy anymore wine till the job is done |
Posted By: chaskaduo
Date Posted: 06 Oct 2018 at 3:29pm
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Looks like tadams might not ever have wine again, unless he's got a barnful already. ------------- 1938 B, 79 Dynamark 11/36 6spd, 95 Weed-Eater 16hp, 2010 Bolens 14hp |
Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 06 Oct 2018 at 9:11pm
| i'll share my wine! |
Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 06 Oct 2018 at 9:11pm
| but NOT with that so called contractor |
Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 12 Oct 2018 at 6:32am
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update: day 50, yes FIFTY..... dang,the 'flood' was shorter. no progress to report except that I cleaned the crap away from the 1/2 skid of shingles so clear view from deck and kitchen windows. Hopefully I'll remember it's there when Shamless 'donates' . Skids aren't friendly to snowblowers ! Jay ------------- 3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112 Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor) Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water |
Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 12 Oct 2018 at 6:47am
| Did you get some cheese to go with your whine? Er, ...wine, that's right, it's gone. |
Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 12 Oct 2018 at 10:28am
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gets even better... guy next door sells car parts, this guy comes to buy stuff, turns out he's a roofer, asks if I need the roof finished ! man it was all I could do to not tell him the real story.... ------------- 3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112 Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor) Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water |
Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 12 Oct 2018 at 10:56am
| So why didn't you say YES? |
Posted By: Stan IL&TN
Date Posted: 12 Oct 2018 at 3:01pm
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At this point you have been more than patient with the whole bad situation. I would let the wife know that if it's not finished in the next week that you will get someone else to finish it. Enough is enough. ------------- 1957 WD45 dad's first AC 1968 one-seventy 1956 F40 Ferguson |
Posted By: Red Bank
Date Posted: 12 Oct 2018 at 4:37pm
| I wouldn't wait a week I would have gotten that guy and said finish it |
Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 12 Oct 2018 at 4:43pm
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her son , the contractor, 'walks on water', can do no wrong, I'm the step dad so I can't win no matter what.. it'll just be interesting to see what event happens before the roof is finished. hmm... out thanksgiving has come and gone. halloween is soon, Christmas is round the corner..... at least I can blow off some steam here thanks guys Jay ------------- 3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112 Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor) Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water |
Posted By: Alberta Phil
Date Posted: 12 Oct 2018 at 5:55pm
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I had an ex who thought that of her kids --and they still live with her, both in their mid '30s. Best thing she ever did was inherit some money and left!! I too was always the bad guy. |
Posted By: Red Bank
Date Posted: 12 Oct 2018 at 11:12pm
| Jay I understand and at the same time you must really love her to want to keep peace in the family that badly. Have you tried to gently nudge her into calling him to finish the roof? Or get another contractor to finish it and never mention it again. |
Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 13 Oct 2018 at 6:08am
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re: gently nudge her I dare not open my mouth... but.. I did clear away everything around the friggin skid of roofing stuff so she sees and walks by several times everyday. I call that a subtle hint ? re: new roofer Hmm, I paid $3000 UP FRONT, for a $2500 ONE DAY job and I'm not about to pay out a 2nd time, beside there'd be hell to pay from her, as her golden boy can't do no wrong... I KNOW I'm in a 'no win' scenario..... Jay ------------- 3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112 Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor) Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water |
Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 13 Oct 2018 at 7:03am
| I don’t think that’s what I’d call it. |
Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 13 Oct 2018 at 8:24am
| me either! |
Posted By: DMiller
Date Posted: 13 Oct 2018 at 8:32am
| Sorry to read this Jay, I try to NOT or to avoid use of Friends or relatives for work around my place, if I cannot afford to hire someone and I can do it I do it, if I am afraid to do it as may get mashed I feed money into the savings to pay someone to do it, but NOT friend or relative, not worth the angst. |
Posted By: chaskaduo
Date Posted: 13 Oct 2018 at 9:35am
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That's $3,000 up front and another $3,000 to finish, that's how they work it (for mommy to fund them) they think they are pulling the wool over your eyes. That has been my experience. ------------- 1938 B, 79 Dynamark 11/36 6spd, 95 Weed-Eater 16hp, 2010 Bolens 14hp |
Posted By: Coke-in-MN
Date Posted: 13 Oct 2018 at 11:23am
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No money up front - or for materials only - then a paid receipt or lien waver when paid . Working for relatives - have done it and had good results - now neighbor stiffed me for 3 loads of black dirt - and spreading it so he could sell place - was going to pay as soon as sold - moved during the night- ------------- Faith isn't a jump in the dark. It is a walk in the light. Faith is not guessing; it is knowing something. "Challenges are what make life interesting; overcoming them is what makes life meaningful." |
Posted By: tadams(OH)
Date Posted: 13 Oct 2018 at 2:25pm
| Totally understand where your coming from Stan. Good Luck |
Posted By: Ray54
Date Posted: 13 Oct 2018 at 4:57pm
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I am being real nosy,so don't answer if I am being too snoopy. Was it yours before the wife come along or is something you got together? My idea of a hint would be some water dripping on her in the middle of the night,from the roof that is not there. Oh Coke at least he is gone. I was so dum I went back for seconds  . A "actor" about the quality of the "contractor" hung me out for 2 or 3 years to get $3000. So 30 years go by and he calls and wants more work done, I said I remembered last time an he slammed the phone down. All right. No he keeps calling so i said to me, a short day he never pays for will keep him away. But darn if he doesn't pay. So I end up planting 15 acres of hay 3 or 4 years and get payed. Well now 3 years since I planted the last crop ant payed for it yet and he still calls when I will plant him more. He keeps telling me he will send the money, yes as soon as pigs fly. I hear he is selling, but one jerk leaves and a bigger one moves in so thing could get worse. So Jay
you ant the only sucker out there. |
Posted By: DiyDave
Date Posted: 13 Oct 2018 at 7:14pm
Not a relative story, but a sorta neighbor. Mowed his lawn all season, last half he don't pay for... Sent him bills all winter, no response. Next spring he calls me again, I ask about the $400 tab, from last year, he says I'll pay it, I say OK, I ll cut it again, this year, just have a check ready for me. I show up, cut 2 rounds around the lawn, and a diagonal slash through the center, knock on door, get check, load mower, high-tail it to the bank, and deposit it. A week later I gets the final call from him, asking if my mower had broke down, or something. I told him, No, everything is fine...
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Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 13 Oct 2018 at 7:43pm
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I'm kinda happy, but sad, that I'm NOT the only one in the boat....sigh. Wife doesn't see anything wrong though EVERYONE else can.... dbl sigh. We bought this house in 84, paid it off in 3 years,yeesh I've spent half my life with her in this house,me without a paycheck, made ends meet , even took out a 100K line of credit( I'm about 820 in the FICO score up here ) , he's zip, she's maybe a 500 ?...so 'he' could buy a 'flip house'..hmm that was 8 years ago...still ain't flipped. Man I should right a book about the 'adventures'. Her daughter turned out great though..... supposed to get frost tonight... oh well... life goes on Jay ------------- 3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112 Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor) Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water |
Posted By: Hubert (Ga)engine7
Date Posted: 17 Oct 2018 at 12:03pm
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Have dealt with relatives on a few jobs and so far have not had a problem. Needed a crankshaft replaced in the Hindu Ford and got a distant cousin who has his own shop to fix it. Told him up front "you charge me just like you would any other customer and get it done like you would one of your other customers." Everything went well. ------------- Just an old country boy saved by the grace of God. |
Posted By: Hubert (Ga)engine7
Date Posted: 17 Oct 2018 at 12:07pm
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Jay, probably throwing salt in a wound but I came back from town around 9:00 yesterday morning and a roofing crew had neighbor's house stripped down to the decking, around 5:00 they were putting on the final touches and cleaning up. Part of this roof was 2 story and 12/12 pitch. Looks like they did a good job. ------------- Just an old country boy saved by the grace of God. |
Posted By: tadams(OH)
Date Posted: 17 Oct 2018 at 1:29pm
| Prayers for you Stan, may your wife open her eyes and get it moving. |
Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 19 Oct 2018 at 6:39am
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Day 56, yes Fifty Six, yawn..... it's official... FROST on the roof, yet another milestone for the project ! OK, a very,very light frost.. whew, Shamless was kind to me ! Guess I'll go rototill the giant pumkin patch this morning,maybe level the 'drain tiling' I installed 2 weeks ago, then tidy up the 20 yards of prime pony poop I got yesterday,put away all the summer furniture then go have lunch with a friend. Seems there's no end of jobs I can get done while 'others' twiddle their thumbs. Jay ------------- 3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112 Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor) Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water |
Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 19 Oct 2018 at 6:55am
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"I dare not open my mouth" OR ELSE WHAT?!?!?!!! My wife and I are equals. Yet, if one is doing something that's totally stupid or wasting money or both, the other has every right to have a WTF come to Jesus moment with the other. It ain't always pleasant, but it blows over. Are you in a marriage, or an indentured servitude??? I just don't get all the sighs and hand wringing.....Sorry, I know I'm abrasive as all get out on this, but SHEESH!!!
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Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 06 Nov 2018 at 6:55am
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update: Another milestone... SEVENTY FIVE DAYS ! Yes, that's correct 75 days and it's still not done.... We've had 4+ inches of rain in the past 2 weeks( thanks Shameless for the 'mild' not 'wild' setting' !!). He's going on another holiday this week, to Mexico , again...that'l be 5 trips this year, that I know of... Oh well.... Now the bet is which'll come first 100 days or (shh) SNOW ?? Jay ------------- 3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112 Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor) Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water |
Posted By: chaskaduo
Date Posted: 06 Nov 2018 at 8:50am
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Probably summer. I think I would just go rent a room to stay at from someone. If the wife (?) asked about it, I'd tell her I couldn't stand to watch my blood, sweet, tears, and investment be ruined like this in front of me.You have way way more patience than me. Each to his own but I could handle having a fight way better. Hey! Take a vacation to Mexico by yourself on the sly and see if she even notices your gone. Aww just kiddin.
 ------------- 1938 B, 79 Dynamark 11/36 6spd, 95 Weed-Eater 16hp, 2010 Bolens 14hp |
Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 06 Nov 2018 at 3:41pm
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no passport... besides if I left, who knows what would 'go missing'..... been to Mexico, florida, St. Kitts, Dom Reb. I'm not a 'lay in the sun fun' kinda guy..rather be turning wrenches, fixin stuff. Fortunately the north roof of the garage doesn't leak,so for me the job isn't important, it's their attitude that he's mr. perfect.. I've got LOTS of hobbies to keep myself from selfdestructing over this,life's too short. It'll just be interesting to see when (if ?) the roof gets done ! Jay ------------- 3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112 Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor) Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water |
Posted By: chaskaduo
Date Posted: 06 Nov 2018 at 5:59pm
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Yeah Mexico is nothing special. I to would rather wrench. ------------- 1938 B, 79 Dynamark 11/36 6spd, 95 Weed-Eater 16hp, 2010 Bolens 14hp |
Posted By: Red Bank
Date Posted: 07 Nov 2018 at 3:42pm
| It would be more fun if it was the neighbors shop and not yours. All in all you are a better man than me. |
Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 09 Nov 2018 at 4:33pm
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update: well made it to day 78 and Shamless's machine tossed me them wet, white things....... I knew it'd be a long shot to make 100 days but oh well...at least the white is melting, for now, supposed to get real cold tonight. Hopefully will get an F150 air cleaner assy onto the forklift tomorrow, then a 'new' headline r into the truck,maybe finally rejigg the garage for a wee bit more room.. I found 2 nice orange cones to remind me NOT to hit the skid of shingles with snowblower ! Jay ------------- 3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112 Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor) Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water |
Posted By: Red Bank
Date Posted: 10 Nov 2018 at 1:11pm
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[QUOTE=jaybmiller I found 2 nice orange cones to remind me NOT to hit the skid of shingles with snowblower ! I blew snot out of my nose when I read this
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Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 14 Nov 2018 at 12:29am
| find you an ugly big blue tarp, nail it up on the roof then put a sign with your step sons name on it in front for all to see, see how long the tarp stays there, it would draw more attention than the way it is now! like I always say about things like this....it's "the power of *ussy"! |
Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2018 at 6:20am
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tada !!!!! 100 days !!! Not that I'm counting......  So now the lottery ... WHEN will the skid of shingles get installed ? Since it's cold and miserable here now, obviously a 'Spring project'. March 17th, Apr 1, May 26th( my BD) ?? I did put a tall BRIGHT orange safety cone in front of the skid to remind me NOT to hit it with the snowblower. Jay ------------- 3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112 Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor) Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water |
Posted By: chaskaduo
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2018 at 9:22am
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Spring heii, add another 0 to that 100. ------------- 1938 B, 79 Dynamark 11/36 6spd, 95 Weed-Eater 16hp, 2010 Bolens 14hp |
Posted By: Red Bank
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2018 at 2:00pm
| Got an idea, give us his phone number and we will call about a roofing job and give him your address and maybe it will click in his head to finish what he started and maybe he won't cry to his mother about it? Think it will work? |
Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2018 at 2:09pm
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Great , I'm already in the doghouse about not moving the skid of shingles from in front of the garage( see it EVERYTIME you look out kitchen windows). Friend says if I moved them next door, well 'outta sight,outta mind'..it'll never get done. My theory was IF it was in PLAIN sight , the job would get done......well that back fired. He went to Dom Rep for a week ( 'needed a 3rd holiday this summer.....) Honestly, I got bigger problems to deal with so this doesn't upset the ulcer. jes somethin for you guys to shake your heads about !! Jay ------------- 3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112 Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor) Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water |
Posted By: Red Bank
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2018 at 2:17pm
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Just trying to help
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Posted By: Ray54
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2018 at 3:39pm
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We could pool are money here and rent a billboard (or are they to ugly for Canada and banned) and put up a add for "Never Get's it done contracting" "see his quality work at your address". Think that would get any movement out of him?
Other than sawing the billboard post down. All from the Shameless council for quality in building. |
Posted By: Stan IL&TN
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2018 at 4:30pm
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I need a current picture and his phone number. I should be able to post some advertisements across the World Wide Web for his business. Like "give me a call and you'll take a fall" or "give me your cash and you'll kick yourself in your a$$" or "call me up and pay me first then you'll hate me but don't you curse".😁 ------------- 1957 WD45 dad's first AC 1968 one-seventy 1956 F40 Ferguson |
Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 11 Dec 2018 at 8:56pm
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update : day 110 ... not ,that , well, OK I AM COUNTING.... and it's kinda done..well at least the skid of shingles are on the north half of the garage !! I'm thinking the wife got after the kid, seeing how EVERYONE said 'something' about the skid of shingles in front of the garage. Me, I didn't say a peep. Course I needed to haul them into the garage and HEAT them up to 80*F for 34 hours, not that I'm counting.....then creativly find skids to help raise them up to the roof. Kid started at 10:30, 1/2hr lunch(mommy supplied) then left at 3:30 with 3 rows left to do. This morning (10AM) he nailed them frozen shingles up and was gone around 2. The low pitched annex( houses furnace ,air compressor and steel) is next years project. I figure I'll do it on May 26th when I turn 66. Jay ------------- 3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112 Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor) Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water |
Posted By: Ted J
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2018 at 12:49am
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Jay, I wanna see a picture of you,,,,,,,,no, not for Shameless,,,,,,,I wanna see if you've got any hair left! ------------- "Allis-Express" 19?? WC / 1941 C / 1952 CA / 1956 WD45 / 1957 WD45 / 1958 D-17 |
Posted By: chaskaduo
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2018 at 8:41am
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With your luck, let us pray it don't leak. ------------- 1938 B, 79 Dynamark 11/36 6spd, 95 Weed-Eater 16hp, 2010 Bolens 14hp |
Posted By: Sugarmaker
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2018 at 9:09am
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Jay, Thanks for the update! You have more patience than most folks! I give you a lot of credit for that. Hang in there! Regards, Chris ------------- D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet. |
Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 20 Dec 2018 at 2:45pm
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------------- 3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112 Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor) Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water |
Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 20 Dec 2018 at 2:49pm
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Ok..what's teh secret to have the picture showing in the message ? I wanted it BIG as well... jay ------------- 3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112 Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor) Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water |
Posted By: Kenny L.
Date Posted: 21 Dec 2018 at 6:55am
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Posted By: Kenny L.
Date Posted: 21 Dec 2018 at 6:57am
| Jay that as big as I can get it. Kenny L. |
Posted By: chaskaduo
Date Posted: 21 Dec 2018 at 9:27am
 ------------- 1938 B, 79 Dynamark 11/36 6spd, 95 Weed-Eater 16hp, 2010 Bolens 14hp |
Posted By: chaskaduo
Date Posted: 21 Dec 2018 at 10:16am
 ------------- 1938 B, 79 Dynamark 11/36 6spd, 95 Weed-Eater 16hp, 2010 Bolens 14hp |
Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 21 Dec 2018 at 10:54am
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Man that roof is HIDEOUS !! wavy, shigles bent, not flat... arrgh.. sure glad it ain't mine ! dang nabbit it is sigh.... and I'd like to know HOW you guys get the pictures to come up instead of the xxxxx.jpg in orange? Jay ------------- 3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112 Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor) Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water |
Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 21 Dec 2018 at 10:57am
 OK.. it's the TREE not teh filefolder I gotta choose... getting old sux... Jay
------------- 3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112 Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor) Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water |
Posted By: Sugarmaker
Date Posted: 21 Dec 2018 at 11:24am
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Jay, Merry Christmas! Looks like you have a new roof! And its brown, hope that was the color you wanted too?:) Looks pretty good in the first pictures. Glad to see it complete! Regards, Chris ------------- D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet. |
Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 21 Dec 2018 at 3:57pm
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Not too sure how long FROZEN shingles nailed onto 1st layer of FROZEN shingles will actually last. If you saw it in person you'd see the wavy blocking and several haven't even thought about laying flat ! Everyone who does see it, just shakes their heads ,mumbles &^% words. Bottom line, it's up, she likes it, 'he' did a GREAT job( in his mind) and I got better things to do. Jay ------------- 3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112 Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor) Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water |
Posted By: DMiller
Date Posted: 21 Dec 2018 at 4:38pm
| Holy crap BUBBA!! I have seen better set roof on Shyt Houses!! Just WOW! And sorry for you as that may not make it long. |
Posted By: chaskaduo
Date Posted: 21 Dec 2018 at 5:14pm
 ------------- 1938 B, 79 Dynamark 11/36 6spd, 95 Weed-Eater 16hp, 2010 Bolens 14hp |
Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 21 Dec 2018 at 6:07pm
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Snow kidding !! ------------- 3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112 Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor) Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water |
Posted By: Ted J
Date Posted: 21 Dec 2018 at 6:32pm
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If that would have been my roof, but then I don't have the patience you do Jay, when he got about a third of the was up and I saw those shingles sticking up in the air,,,,,,,,well, I would have offered my help to him and gone up on that roof to help. You woulda had to holler loud enough when you offered the help, so the Mrs. would have heard. Then when I would have gotten up there, I'd a helped him, he would have fallen off the roof and broke his neck. I'd a broke his neck first just to make sure..... ------------- "Allis-Express" 19?? WC / 1941 C / 1952 CA / 1956 WD45 / 1957 WD45 / 1958 D-17 |
Posted By: Stan IL&TN
Date Posted: 22 Dec 2018 at 7:22am
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Often a hot day will soften them and they will lay down BUT by the time you have another hot day which will be months away.......it will be too late to do any good. ------------- 1957 WD45 dad's first AC 1968 one-seventy 1956 F40 Ferguson |