C159 filter confusion?
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Topic: C159 filter confusion?
Posted By: mdm1
Subject: C159 filter confusion?
Date Posted: 05 Mar 2018 at 10:50am
I have been following the C159 filter deal. My wife picked up 3 for me and I noticed they are hydraulic not engine oil filters. I checked some I bought last year and they are the same deal. I have seen other posts that have hydraulic filters also. What i have found out is the hydraulic filters have a finer medium and will plug up if used for the engine. Could someone please give their opinions on using them?
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Everything is impossible until someone does it! WD45-trip loader 1947 c w/woods belly mower, 1939 B, #3 sickle mower 1944 B, 2 1948 G's. Misc other equipment that my wife calls JUNK!
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Posted By: CrestonM
Date Posted: 05 Mar 2018 at 12:01pm
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That's all I've ever used...no problems.
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Posted By: mdm1
Date Posted: 05 Mar 2018 at 12:04pm
I checked with Fram and Mark said first he would not use one that said hydraulic filter on the box but after some further research he could only find one C159 filter in their product list. A oil by pass filter. So he said I should be O.K.
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Everything is impossible until someone does it! WD45-trip loader 1947 c w/woods belly mower, 1939 B, #3 sickle mower 1944 B, 2 1948 G's. Misc other equipment that my wife calls JUNK!
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Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 05 Mar 2018 at 12:23pm
C159 is a bypass engine oil filter........ no matter what someone puts on the box. I would agree internally is might resemble a hydrauilic filter more than a paper engine oil filter.. That might be their confusion in naming it....... but you cant have two filters with the same part number.
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Like them all, but love the "B"s.
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Posted By: mdm1
Date Posted: 05 Mar 2018 at 12:27pm
Thanks Steve!
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Everything is impossible until someone does it! WD45-trip loader 1947 c w/woods belly mower, 1939 B, #3 sickle mower 1944 B, 2 1948 G's. Misc other equipment that my wife calls JUNK!
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Posted By: Bob-Maine
Date Posted: 05 Mar 2018 at 2:58pm
I phoned Fram customer service about this issue. The gentleman who answered told me that they are basically the same thing. Bob@allisdowneast
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I used to think I was indecisive, but now I'm not sure.
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Posted By: Ted J
Date Posted: 05 Mar 2018 at 4:32pm
The youngsters in charge at Fram don't have a clue about these filters, so they put a pic of a hyd one on the box. They've never seen an oil filter with a screw in end on it.
We had this discussion on here a while back Mike, so YES, you're good to go. Never mind the picture.
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19?? WC / 1941 C / 1952 CA / 1956 WD45 / 1957 WD45 / 1958 D-17
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Posted By: dudley wallace
Date Posted: 05 Mar 2018 at 5:35pm
look up your tractor in the fram book it says a model b-c-c/a rc wc-wd-wd45-and some early d17 tractors and some combines are listed that the fram 159 filter is a oil filter for these tractors it might say hydraulic it might be used as a hydraulic filter as well on something else as well I bought a allischalmers filter and cant tell any difference but the price
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a member of hendricks county antique tractor and machinery association club.
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Posted By: Acdiesel
Date Posted: 05 Mar 2018 at 5:53pm
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SAME AS NAPA 7011
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Posted By: Gary
Date Posted: 05 Mar 2018 at 7:17pm
As a comparison a Fram PH8A is the engine oil filter on my D-15 Ser II
- and is the Hydraulic oil filter on my D-12 Ser. III.
So same filter - engine oil or hydraulic oil
Gary
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