Electric power steering
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Topic: Electric power steering
Posted By: Rick143
Subject: Electric power steering
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2018 at 7:37pm
| I saw in a farm invention news paper that a guy mounted an electric power steering unit from a Saturn Veu in an IH. I ordered on off of ebay for $60.00. Has anyone here tried this? I'm planning on installing it on my WD45. |
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Posted By: DiyDave
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2018 at 8:08pm
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I read the article, in Farm Show Magazine, sounds Do-able at least on the farmall. Doon't know how much plumbing and shaft work, on an AC... Good luck, if it works, please post in detail...
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Posted By: DougS
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2018 at 8:14pm
| Is it shaft in and shaft out? That should work. Plan on using heavy wire when you connect it. At 12 volts it would need a fair amount of amps to develop the needed torque. |
Posted By: Rick143
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2018 at 7:16am
| Yeah it is shaft in and shaft out. I plan on powering it with a relay in line to handle the load. |
Posted By: DougS
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2018 at 7:33am
The control box itself may have a relay. At the very least you'd want to connect the heavy feed directly to the battery and install a key switch for the controller, if you don't already have one. |
Rick143 wrote:Posted By: dakotawc
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2018 at 7:35am
| I seen that article too. Let us know how it works out! |
Posted By: Gatz in NE
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2018 at 9:18am
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Posted By: orange
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2018 at 10:02am
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I got one also where do you get the needed coupler (splines ) that go on it? Terry
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Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2018 at 10:07am
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top coupler could be steering wheel spliney thing, btm one from top of shaft going to rack. you do need the 'control computer' box and all wiring. I'm wondering how much poer it needs(amps) ? A smart guy might be able to make a 'retrokit'.... Jay ------------- 3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112 Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor) Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water |
Posted By: Herb(GA)
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2018 at 10:08am
| Farm Show magazine is definitely a farm invention publication, as Rick stated. It and Old Allis News are filled with interesting contents, I appreciate both cover to cover. Herb(GA) |
Posted By: Rick143
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2018 at 11:13am
I plan on machining something when I get the unit and see what I have to work with. |
Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2018 at 12:02pm
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Remember... it'll be metric !!! A World Class Product.... ------------- 3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112 Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor) Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water |
Posted By: Rick143
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2018 at 4:31pm
Yeah but my lathes don't discriminate |
Posted By: DougS
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2018 at 4:33pm
| I’d be more inclined to build a new shaft instead of cutting a factory original. |
Posted By: Rick143
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2018 at 5:20pm
I might depending on where I decide to mount it. |
Posted By: Stan R
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2018 at 5:23pm
| Curious if it has the torque to work at a satisfactory level. Not a doubting Thomas, but a wd45 ain't a saturn! |
Posted By: Rick143
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2018 at 6:56pm
Yeah it's way better than a Saturn! |
Posted By: desertjoe
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2018 at 8:56pm
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Hey Rick,,I'm gonna be followin your thread on this as I looked into this very same set-up for my D14 on another forum. The general consensus was that the weight of the tractor far exceeded the capability of the pump and the unit required lots of amps to get er done so I kinda looked elsewhere. Keep us posted with lots of pics on your project,,,there is LOTS of interest on thet,,,
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Posted By: DougS
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2018 at 9:45pm
| It won't cost a fortune to try it if you can snag one at a junk yard. Be sure to get both the unit and the control box. Make note of how it was wired. I see another one on E-bay for $178. This includes the control box with interconnecting cables. |
Posted By: Phil48ACWC
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2018 at 7:50pm
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https://www.ebay.com/itm/Saturn-Vue-Chevy-Equinox-electric-power-steering-controller-EPS/122354361512?hash=item1c7ce364a8:g:RScAAOSwBUVZwneP&vxp=mtr%20" rel="nofollow - https://www.ebay.com/itm/Saturn-Vue-Chevy-Equinox-electric-power-steering-controller-EPS/122354361512?hash=item1c7ce364a8:g:RScAAOSwBUVZwneP&vxp=mtr
Click on above. You'll need one of these controllers. I put one in my street rod. Works great. Make sure all power to controller and the EPS motor is off when vehicle is shut off.
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Posted By: Phil48ACWC
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2018 at 7:53pm
| You can't use the original vehicle control box because it is tied into the traction control system, Engine Control Module (computer), and electronic speedometer. Believe me I tried it. It doesn't work. |
Posted By: Rick143
Date Posted: 23 Jan 2018 at 7:02pm
Thanks for the link. I ordered the controller today. I saw a YouTube video where a guy installed one of these on his lawnmower using this controller. Thinking about the weight comparison of the Saturn vs the wd45 and I don't think there would be that much difference. The Saturn has both the engine and the transmission weight on the front end. |
Posted By: Ted J
Date Posted: 23 Jan 2018 at 9:11pm
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Phil, what did you do then? ------------- "Allis-Express" 19?? WC / 1941 C / 1952 CA / 1956 WD45 / 1957 WD45 / 1958 D-17 |
Posted By: K-Mo
Date Posted: 24 Jan 2018 at 5:42am
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Terry, I don't have a unit installed yet, so don't have all the answers. I'm going with a Nissan Versa unit because it doesn't need the extra ebay control box like the Saturn. For a coupler, I'm going to try Borgeson http://www.borgeson.com/xcart/catalog/Steel_Steering_Couplers-orderby_0-p-1-c-35.html" rel="nofollow - http://www.borgeson.com/xcart/catalog/Steel_Steering_Couplers-orderby_0-p-1-c-35.html K-Mo |
Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 24 Jan 2018 at 6:22am
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yeesh, went to epowersteering.com and 1000 Canucks for a kit! NO info on what the 'adjustment pot' is for,NO info at all....the BIG issue I have is the 50/60 AMP fuse. That means you'll need to upgrade to a 100A alternator and a BF Battery ! $$$ !!! I would not install into a tractor with loader as you'll be using a LOT of power all the time. The power needed is based upon turning times + weight, both BIG numbers on a loader/tractor.Power is volts x amps, so a LOT of amps as volts is 12. I'd like to see some REAL numbers. ES for a street rod driven on paved streets is a LOT less of a load than tractor in the field ! As reported, I'd be making a new shaft NOT cutting the original, that way you can go back to stock quickly. The 'tech' inside the black boxes is simple(for me) but everything needs to be SEALED( the adj pot isn't).Kinda dusty where tractors roam.... Jay ------------- 3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112 Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor) Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water |