HD 11B Rollers
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Topic: HD 11B Rollers
Posted By: Old Alice
Subject: HD 11B Rollers
Date Posted: 04 Dec 2017 at 3:43pm
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HI Im a new member looking for track rollers for my crawler . Allis HD 11 B |
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Posted By: Homesteader64
Date Posted: 05 Dec 2017 at 3:13pm
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Posted By: Homesteader64
Date Posted: 05 Dec 2017 at 3:16pm
| This is old Allis... digging a pond for his neighbour....me. |
Posted By: CAL(KS)
Date Posted: 05 Dec 2017 at 3:24pm
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talk to Lazyts and Gemdozer both in Canada also ------------- Me -C,U,UC,WC,WD45,190XT,TL-12,145T,HD6G,HD16,HD20 Dad- WD, D17D, D19D, RT100A, 7020, 7080,7580, 2-8550's, 2-S77, HD15 |
Posted By: gemdozer
Date Posted: 05 Dec 2017 at 4:09pm
| I am still have some very nice bottom rollers for the HD11 but to far from you am located STE.JULIE near MONTREAL QUEBEC |
Posted By: Lazyts
Date Posted: 05 Dec 2017 at 6:02pm
| There were a couple of HD11s out at General Gear in Idaho a while back- might be your best bet. |
Posted By: Old Alice
Date Posted: 05 Dec 2017 at 6:27pm
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Thank you sir. I will try them. |
Posted By: Old Alice
Date Posted: 05 Dec 2017 at 6:28pm
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That is a thought. the closest i have so far is Boise Idaho. Thanks |
Posted By: DMiller
Date Posted: 06 Dec 2017 at 9:44am
| One other option if you can come up with at least a few old decent but worn slick rollers, take them apart, check with local welders that will set up a rotator and have the running faces weld overlaid. The roller bearings and seals can be replaced with fresh oil installed that will buy you use time. |
Posted By: Old Alice
Date Posted: 06 Dec 2017 at 10:39am
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i actually have new rollers and shafts but cannot seem to find the complete inside bearings seals and all end plates and spacers to set bearing clearances. |
Posted By: DMiller
Date Posted: 06 Dec 2017 at 11:38am
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Allis had a particularly odd seal system, much as the final drive shaft/sprocket seal, more a compressed gland than a seal. No seal producer will have these as a aftermarket except possibly a Berco distributor. May even have to come from Italy or a Berco supplier overseas IF you can find a Berco distributor here that will make the calls. I did find the lower roller bearing p/n cross to a SKF p/n: 70043491 changes to a BR3780 70659148 changes t a BR3730 Timken may cross against those numbers where the Allis numbers have been dropped. http://boya.com.sg/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/457013.pdf" rel="nofollow - http://boya.com.sg/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/457013.pdf |
Posted By: Old Alice
Date Posted: 06 Dec 2017 at 12:10pm
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Thank you very much. I will look into this avenue. |
Posted By: DMiller
Date Posted: 08 Dec 2017 at 1:01pm
| A little more digging, SKS to Timken(Federal Mogul) just drop the BR. As to the seals, perhaps one could build your own basic packing? These are complex neoprene bladder seals with springs and compression washers, do not believe there will be anything similar that could be adapted. |
Posted By: Old Alice
Date Posted: 08 Dec 2017 at 3:52pm
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okay. really appreciate your help.there is a Br dealwr here and he has just started looking. Thanks |
Posted By: Old Alice
Date Posted: 09 Dec 2017 at 3:43pm
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CAL(KS) wrote:Posted By: DMiller
Date Posted: 11 Dec 2017 at 9:41am
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You have a PM as to a location with five NEW single flange lower roller assemblies and access to 36 of the neoprene boot seals for those. DM |
Posted By: Old Alice
Date Posted: 11 Dec 2017 at 12:44pm
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i will contact them. Thanks |
Posted By: Old Alice
Date Posted: 11 Dec 2017 at 12:54pm
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Posted By: Old Alice
Date Posted: 11 Dec 2017 at 12:54pm
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Posted By: Old Alice
Date Posted: 11 Dec 2017 at 12:55pm
| can you text me.1-250-261-6226 |
Posted By: Tad Wicks
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2017 at 11:34am
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DMiller, On the later 11s didn't the rollers have the same labyrinth(bronze to steel) bellows seals as the front idler, we had a lot of problem with them failing especially the front idler. I don't know why National double lipped seals could not be used, one facing in and one facing out 4 times the sealing ability, or a good seal with packing to protect it from the outside elements, like you suggested. Might have to drill and tap the shaft to service them,(should be that way anyway) easy enough, as I recall, I could be wrong, but you had to fill them before you put the seal in, or am I thinking of something else. Tad |
Posted By: Old Alice
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2017 at 5:15pm
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That is what I will do.I have found some rollers in Boise .I'm looking at another 11B and 11E for parts. Thanks for the discussions. |
Posted By: DMiller
Date Posted: 17 Dec 2017 at 7:14am
| According to Angela at Kwik Parts, no, very similar to the neoprene final seals just smaller dimension. Two purposes that surmount lip type seals. You are sealing oil in(not grease) and dirt/water whatever out. Would require two lip type seals one facing in one facing out to perform same task. The Neoprene assembly worked well for both. |
Posted By: Old Alice
Date Posted: 20 Dec 2017 at 5:26pm
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Great information. Thanks a bunch. |