All Crop Cylinder Tach?
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Topic: All Crop Cylinder Tach?
Posted By: Travis2766
Subject: All Crop Cylinder Tach?
Date Posted: 12 Jul 2017 at 8:42am
 ------------- 190XT Series III, D17 Series IV, D15 Series II, All Crop 66, Rotobaler. |
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Posted By: Orange Blood
Date Posted: 12 Jul 2017 at 8:56am
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They are for cylinder speed yes, are they common, no. I would say they are borderline rare. I am not near ours, to be able to say for sure where they connect to, but I think it is on the rotor shaft at the drive belt connection. ------------- Still in use: HD7 WC C CA WD 2-WD45 WD45LP WD45D D14 3-D17 D17LP 2-D19D D19LP 190XTD 190XTLP 720 D21 220 7020 7030 7040 7045 3-7060 Projects: 3-U UC 2-G 2-B 2-C CA 7-WC RC WDLP WF D14 D21 210 7045 N7 |
Posted By: DennisA (IL)
Date Posted: 12 Jul 2017 at 9:00am
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Just about all of the combines I've owned ether had one on or showed signs of one being on. The cable attached to a special nut on the end of the cylinder. I will add a picture to this post later. ------------- Thanks & God Bless Dennis |
Posted By: Bill Long
Date Posted: 12 Jul 2017 at 12:17pm
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When we sold them a small counter was included with the combine. We used those to measure the proper PTO speed. We had set the cylinder speed so many times we - don't laugh - did it by sound. In fact, we did not check it with the counter - only the PTO speed and the separator speed. Thinking back when the 60 first came to us we used spacers to set the cylinder speed. We put a certain number in for wheat and certain ones for other grains. It was later that the crank for setting speed came out. Needless to say we were delighted. As far as the tack shown above we never installed on non did we have the demand. Good Luck! Bill Long ps: Please don't laugh but we sold and set up so many 60's that we could listen to them and tell what was working right or was wrong. In fact when I look back and think about it they were an easy machine to work with. Once you had them set up unless the machine was physically damaged or a part wore out they were trouble free. |
Posted By: DennisA (IL)
Date Posted: 12 Jul 2017 at 12:41pm
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Here are a few pictures. First is of the special nut with the cable attached. The nut is threaded directly on the cylinder shaft. http://s161.photobucket.com/user/caallis/media/All-Crop%20with%202%20Row%20Cornhead/CBF8E1F5-2F8A-4D98-A587-3CCE6FAD6B6E_zps1oufjkb7.jpg.html" rel="nofollow">  http://s161.photobucket.com/user/caallis/media/All-Crop%20with%202%20Row%20Cornhead/6D67C0A3-C4CB-4315-820D-0DC64671D1BC_zpsvovfwxjb.jpg.html" rel="nofollow">  http://s161.photobucket.com/user/caallis/media/All-Crop%20with%202%20Row%20Cornhead/54F41CFF-10AF-4A82-AC41-26DC3DA2AA71_zpsbs1t3fh2.jpg.html" rel="nofollow">  ------------- Thanks & God Bless Dennis |
Posted By: DiyDave
Date Posted: 12 Jul 2017 at 6:23pm
| ours had a little rubber tipped hand held tach, that you checked the cyl speed with, would fit in the palm of your hand, came with the combine... |
Posted By: Travis2766
Date Posted: 12 Jul 2017 at 9:13pm
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I've just got a hand held one that I use, wish I had one on my 66. ------------- 190XT Series III, D17 Series IV, D15 Series II, All Crop 66, Rotobaler. |
Posted By: DennisA (IL)
Date Posted: 12 Jul 2017 at 9:34pm
looked something like this. http://s161.photobucket.com/user/caallis/media/All-Crop%20with%202%20Row%20Cornhead/947CADEF-2ADA-4280-AE0C-5F9179C3D29F_zpsgsn3ptfz.jpg.html" rel="nofollow">  http://s161.photobucket.com/user/caallis/media/All-Crop%20with%202%20Row%20Cornhead/A14CA2F2-1CEC-4E6C-8E60-78BB77C00AE4_zpskbcg8eyv.jpg.html" rel="nofollow">  http://s161.photobucket.com/user/caallis/media/All-Crop%20with%202%20Row%20Cornhead/D2A2991A-1305-4CED-ADAF-A3FEE8CB592B_zpsc7zk68d9.jpg.html" rel="nofollow">  ------------- Thanks & God Bless Dennis |
DiyDave wrote:Posted By: Travis2766
Date Posted: 12 Jul 2017 at 9:43pm
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Looks exactly like mine! ------------- 190XT Series III, D17 Series IV, D15 Series II, All Crop 66, Rotobaler. |
Posted By: johnkc
Date Posted: 12 Jul 2017 at 10:06pm
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I still have the hand held one from my Dads Allcrop, Still in the Stewart Warner can. ------------- I support the development of hybrid automobiles and alternative fuels as I need DIESEL fuel for my ALLIS CHALMERS! |
Posted By: CrestonM
Date Posted: 12 Jul 2017 at 11:16pm
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I thought the tachs that came with the machines only counted revolutions. You used the counter together with a watch to figure out how many revs per minute. I also use a Stewart-Warner tach. Also, Bill...I know what you mean about setting them by ear! I've done that with mine. Also, you are right. They' are usually a good trouble-free machine. Mine sat in a fence row for over 30 years, and after minimal work getting it cleaned out and a few basic things fixed, it's been 100% trouble-free! Plus it still gives a great sample, even with badly worn cylinder bars. |
Posted By: DiyDave
Date Posted: 13 Jul 2017 at 4:49am
| There is an older one, that is spring loaded, has a scale, on a tube, that has markings, reads like a ruler, lowest speeds on left or bottom of the tube, higher speeds to the right, or top of the tube. About the same diameter as the S-W gage, bit the tube sticks out the top. Kind of looks like a dredel toy... |
Posted By: LeonR2013
Date Posted: 13 Jul 2017 at 5:28am
| I have one of the manual ones I guess you would call it. Worked good. |
Posted By: brkfldj
Date Posted: 13 Jul 2017 at 8:02pm
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Not exactly pertinent to the thread, but a memory has been recalled. I have many memories of my Grand Dad. Some are in my mind as if a quick video clip. In the '53 to '54 time frame, Pop Pop had just traded his Allis combine to Mr. Long's dealership for a new Allis combine. He was using a revolution counter that was pushed against the end of the shaft and his watch to determine the rpm's. I crowded in too close while watching and received the only scolding that I can still remember from him. I heard all about the dangers of exposed belts and pulleys. I have never learned the models. The old unit required a rider that filled bags and then slid them down the chute onto the ground. The new combine stored the grain and then unloaded into the truck when the bin was full. Thanks for helping to recall the good times. Jim |
Posted By: Bill Long
Date Posted: 13 Jul 2017 at 8:17pm
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Jim, The Mr. Long's dealership you refer to is not my father's in Stevenson, MD Could there have been another Long dealership in Tennessee? I would be interested. Thinking back I cannot remember a combine we sold with a bin. In our area all were baggers. Thanks for posting the memory. Good Luck! Bill Long |
Posted By: brkfldj
Date Posted: 13 Jul 2017 at 9:05pm
| The Prigel farm is in Baltimore county, Maryland. I don't factually know the source of the combine, but uncle Bob remembers dealing with your family business until it closed. Hence, I assumed that it came from the Longs. If I'm off on the timing, the memory could be from as late as 1957. |