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B/C PTO...Ran What?

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Topic: B/C PTO...Ran What?
Posted By: AaronSEIA
Subject: B/C PTO...Ran What?
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2017 at 5:54am
My boy asked me last night about the smaller PTO shaft on his C. Other than the mounted sickle mower, what did AC or other companies make that used the smaller shaft? Could a 40 or 60 combine be had with it? When did 1 3/8 become the standard for 540 PTO?
AaronSEIA



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Posted By: PaulB
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2017 at 7:45am
The 40 combine were made just for the B & C tractors. also you can put an adapter on the small PTO and run anything you want.

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Posted By: Michael V (NM)
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2017 at 8:19am
'N' fords had the small PTO also...


Posted By: steelwheelAcjim
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2017 at 9:16am
Most tractors eventually switched to the 1 3/8 PTO. Ford was the biggest straggler, using the small PTO through the 9 and 8N's well into the Jubilee's and early 800's.

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Posted By: rpropst
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2017 at 9:49am
Allis Chalmers B's went to 1 3/8 in 1951.  All the CA's were 1 3/8s.  Most tractors were 1 3/8s by the early to mid fifties.  I have a 1950B with a 1 1/8 pto and two 1952 models with 1 3/8s. 

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Posted By: Dakota Dave
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2017 at 10:56am
We ran a sickle mower and a hammer mill on our C when I was a kid. We also baled with it once using a stamped steel adapter when the WD was broke and the hay needed to be baled. I still have the pto shafts end that was on my erskine snow blower that had the 1 1/8th shafts when I got it


Posted By: acd17toy
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2017 at 7:25pm


My 1950 B has the 1-3/8" pto shaft.


Posted By: CrestonM
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2017 at 8:03pm
I've wondered that often as well. My 8N and B both have the small shaft, and the B has the sickle mower drive sheave that fits on the small shaft, but I've never seen any other implements with the small shaft fitting. 


Posted By: dt1050
Date Posted: 17 Apr 2017 at 4:12am
my new holland 66's drive shaft fit the smaller pto. but I'm guessing somebody made it that way since the motor to run the baler was gone and it was converted to run off a tractor.  everything else had the larger pto.



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Posted By: B26240
Date Posted: 17 Apr 2017 at 6:13am
I have an early H Farmall in the junk pile with the small pto shaft.


Posted By: Bill Long
Date Posted: 17 Apr 2017 at 1:55pm
For years we used the sleve over the 1 1/8" shaft to adapt it to 1 3/8".  Usually this solved the problem.  However, under heavy use the sleve (?) would shatter.  In that case we would change out the PTO for a PTO with the larger 1 3/8" shaft for safety.  
Good Luck!
Bill Long


Posted By: AaronSEIA
Date Posted: 17 Apr 2017 at 7:01pm
I know about the sleeve. Currently have one on the C now. I'm more curious about what AC made for the small shaft other than the 40 combine. Or would it have been more 3rd party equipment makers selling stuff?
AaronSEIA


Posted By: ac fleet
Date Posted: 17 Apr 2017 at 9:01pm
Older John Deere a and b had small pto.---Dad always got the adapter sleves at TSC, when they were a tractor store! thanks; ac fleet



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