Why Allis Chalmers
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Topic: Why Allis Chalmers
Posted By: dt1050
Subject: Why Allis Chalmers
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2017 at 6:43am
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I had a post a while back asking what your favorite Allis Chalmers tractor was. I'd like to hear some stories why ya chose Allis over all the competition...(as if anybody could compete with an Allis) My story. I was farming with an 8n that worked most of the time, but when I would bale up hill and the baler hit a knot stroke the tractor would almost die and a 5ft brush hog was rough to use with no live pto and the tractor didn't really have the power to run it. One year the 8n wouldn't run (bad valve) so I borrowed the neighbors WD 45. WOW!!! what a machine, I felt like I was king of the farming community on it. Next pay there was a WD 45 in my garage. Used it till I got hurt and couldn't farm any more. Sold it an got a smaller International 130  Thing would never start or run right when I needed it and I won't even get into the rear lift system. ugh! Sold it, went back to an Allis and got the 5020 4x4. 4 years and have only had to replace 1 bearing in the right front axle and now the pinion issue. but a very trouble free machine.....feels good to back on an Allis, even if it is a imported Allis. Just wish parts were as easy to find as the WD 45!While I loved my WD 45, sure is nice having a small diesel that just sips fuel. When I'd bale the fields I swear I had to fill the WD 45 up every time I made a loop in the field..lol ------------- Just cause it's orange don't make it a tractor, there's only one..Allis Chalmers |
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Posted By: Trinity45
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2017 at 6:50am
| When I was young we had a TO30, good tractor but small. Dad went to town one day and bought a brand new D-15 series 2 with factory 3ph. I drove that tractor for now telling how many hours square baling hay for day. We custom baled almost 50,000 plus a year with that tractor and a 303/NH 273. If I could find one I would buy another D15 to restore. I own a 185, 2 CA used them in tobacco for years, Dad now owns a 175 and a B. |
Posted By: dt1050
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2017 at 7:18am
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to be honest, I like the looks of the D series Allis's the best. I have never owned or ran one, but I use to see the neighbor's D 17 go down the road when I was running my wd 45. I felt guilty, kinda like looking at a good looken women when your wife is right beside you...lol
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Posted By: Dek Thorne
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2017 at 7:22am
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No farming stories from me. I chose allis because I learned to drive tractor on a allis when I was three. I fixed that B all up for a school projects. It's the one tractor I will never sell |
Posted By: dt1050
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2017 at 7:28am
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almost bought a B, but when I got there the motor was seized up and I needed a tractor asap. That's why I ended up with the 8n
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Posted By: Lonn
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2017 at 7:40am
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I grew up on Allis and learned to drive a WD at about age 9. Dad, however, grew up on a Case DC that my Grandpa had and later a new Super M and new Super C and an older M when he lived with his step aunt and uncle. Then after he got out of the Army and later out of IBM he went and bought a VAC Case. That VAC never ran right so he bought a WC in the late 60's and soon after, bought a WD then a WD45. It was the WD45 that sold him on Allis. He says it was soooo much more gutty than the old Super M and M he grew up on. He always called it a bucking Bronco because it wouldn't give up and the front end was in the air most of the time while plowing gumbo soil with 3 sixteens. He always says an M would have never done what that 45 would do in those conditions. His favorite tractor was and still is his trusty D17 which he traded the 45 for. From 1973 through 1997 that D17 hardly went a day without doing some kind of chore on our dairy farm. Loader work, such as bucketing mountains of snow before the milk trucker would come for a pickup and bucketing silage and cutting hay with a 390 and later a 460NH, moving round bales, baling with several NH balers over the years, cultivating, planting, pulling a MM and later an Oliver corn picker, plowing, disking, pulling a 14 foot Deere Field cultivator that pulled the snot out her. That's really the tractor that set Dad as a permanent Allis man. ------------- -- --- .... .- -- -- .- -.. / .-- .- ... / .- / -- ..- .-. -.. . .-. .. -. --. / -.-. .... .. .-.. -.. / .-. .- .--. .. ... - Wink I am a Russian Bot |
Posted By: LeonR2013
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2017 at 7:48am
| Dad always liked Allis and that's what I started on in 1950 at 9 years old. The next addition was a WD with a 45 kit that ran very well indeed. I'm amazed at how much less gas it used compared to the 45 I have now. Not a thing wrong with either one. |
Posted By: dt1050
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2017 at 7:50am
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Sounds like that d17 got a work out. lol. a fella I worked with said the same thing when his dad bought a wd45. His comment was "now that's a tractor". ------------- Just cause it's orange don't make it a tractor, there's only one..Allis Chalmers |
Posted By: CrestonM
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2017 at 8:11am
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I like Allis-Chalmers because of their test statistics compared to JD, IH, etc. of the era They are easier on fuel, have quieter cabs, hydraulic pump is incredibly easy to access if R&I is needed. On the Deere iron horses, on the Quad-Range, you have to remove the bolts on the back of the cab, jack it up, remove the 3pt housing, and the pump is down inside against the front of the rear end. Then you have to pry on the 3pt housing to get it moved back enough to get the pump out...that's the easy one....on the Power Shift tractors, the pump is inside the transmission, and the cab has to come off. Yay Deere.... On the 8000 series, they are just great. Some say a 8010 uses less fuel than some of the 7000 series, which is a big plus. Plus the great, roomy cab that continued to be copied by tractor manufacturers for years. On the old Allis', I love the WD45 for their wet disc hand clutch, and the fact they have so much lugging power (at least my buddy's does) His is pretty easy on fuel. We cut 10 acres of wheat last summer with the All-Crops, and the tank was less than 3/4 full to start with, and at the end of the day, there was still fuel in the tank. Never had to fill up. The same can't be said for the D17.
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Posted By: darrel in ND
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2017 at 9:44am
| When my wife and I got married (25 years ago) we bought a small acreage in the country, got a few head of livestock of every different species you could imagine, and had jobs in town. I needed a loader tractor, and I found a D19 with a farmhand F11 loader on it that I bought for one reason : it was the cheapest thing I found. I was very reluctant to buy it, because my whole life, all I had heard was horror stories of how bad Allis Chalmers was. At first, this D19 confirmed all of the horror stories. Brakes didn't work, took 3 quarts of oil to grind a load of feed, I wasn't accustomed to using the PD to obtain live PTO, loader fit on the thing like a saddle on a sow, and I hated it. Had no choice but make it through the first winter with it, but I vowed that it was going to be gone before the next winter. Late summer/early fall, I hadn't found anything to replace it yet, and by some fateful spur of the moment decision one Sunday afternoon, for reasons un-explainable, I decided that I was going to make a tractor out of it. I pulled the loader off of it, and took it up to the West Plains Implement, where I worked. The resident allis expert overhauled it for me (he could do it in his sleep) in exchange for a bunch of welding that I did for him. Overhaul kit at that time was under a thousand bucks. First time I heard it run after the overhaul, I was all smiles. Figured if it ran good, it better look good. I went through that thing, fixing all that was wrong with it, and then I did all the prep work, and a buddy of mine shot a fresh coat of paint on it, and then it got all new decals. Operating that tractor without the loader was just plain difference of night and day. Needless to say, the loader never went back on. I bought an old farm all M with a loader cheap, for my loader tractor. I loved that D19 after that. Next was a D14, then a D17, and on, and on, and on......lol. My tractor experience growing up, was a John Deere R, which I thought at the time was the holy grail of tractors, and an 8N ford, which I always hated. (Sorry Creston). Looking back, I think that the R took 110 percent of its power just to pull itself, and after running a D14, that just amplified my hatred towards that little ford. That's my story, and I'm sticking to it. Darrel |
Posted By: Gerald J.
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2017 at 10:20am
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I bought an 8n long ago with a trip bucket loader for moving snow. It came with a two bottom plow. I had to completely rewire it. It was too light for it's 20 hp, even with new rear tires the loader was useless for moving snow. I bought a three point blade and set the loader aside. It was so short of traction that the only way I could move snow with the blade was by turning the blade backwards and hitting the drifts as fast as it would go in reverse and using inertia. That kind of worked but on level ground its easy to run out of space to shove snow to. And smashing the blade into snow banks broke its frame a time or two. I tried plowing gardens and didn't get invited back. The "safety" three point hitch lifted the rear tires up when the plow pulled hard and so the tires tilled more than the plow, then the hitch lifted the plow so depth varied wildly. I was happy to see it leave. It was an expensive toy. I know a huge number were sold and it is still popular but I don't want to use one anymore. Gerald J. |
Posted By: Ted J
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2017 at 10:22am
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I grew up on em! end of story! The power that the WD45 had was heads above ANYTHING else at the time. Just the sound of it alone would make your hair stand up. I always said that when I had the money, I'd buy one of my own! Well, life has many twists and turns and about 30 years later, I got the chance. Now I own 3 of them! If it's eating gas, you better check your carb setting and timing. They will run all day on a full tank! ------------- "Allis-Express" 19?? WC / 1941 C / 1952 CA / 1956 WD45 / 1957 WD45 / 1958 D-17 |
Posted By: CrestonM
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2017 at 12:36pm
x2 on the 45! I grew up green util I got smart enough to take off the green-tinted glasses and stop drinking the green Kool-Aid long enough to realize that just because Deere has hype, and the notorious "they're still in business" quote, doesn't mean they're better. Just means they've got good sales gimmicks. (As a kid, I'd ride in the L3 every summer for hours, and I enjoyed it, but I thought "the Deere's the custom cutters had were SOOO much better! They don't break down as much!" Then as I got older and got more educated in the workings and mechanics of the thresher body, I realized it wasn't necessarily the combine's fault....well....I'll put it this way....it's like shooting the dog, then complaining that it's dead...) After going orange, my eyes kept opening, and I realized that most of the stuff Deere sold over the years was copied off of other people (For example....the --00 series combines came from JI Case....compare a 6600 with a 1660 Case and it's obvious...also copying the round baler from A-C, as well as the All-Crop harvester....do a search on a JD No. 6 combine....it's a backwards and pretty crude All-Crop, for the most part....just with more moving parts, like always). That is what led to my distaste for Deere. (Y'all will be mad, but regardless of that, I'm going to have a Deere 4020 and G in my collection someday, just because both my grandpa's have/had 4020s and Dad grew up on a 1949 G....more sentimental reasons than anything...everyone knows a One-Ninety will send a 4020 packing at plow days) I ran a WD45 for the first time last summer, and I agree, it's got tons of power! It'll lug a little, then when that governor kicks in, it kinda gives you a chill. Then it buckles down and really goes! The JD letter series I've seen run just seem to putt along till they get a load, then they start popping louder and slower, then stall.
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Ted J wrote:Posted By: olivetroad
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2017 at 1:10pm
| We had AC as my Great uncles were AC dealers. We rotated Thanksgiving,Christmas, New Years, some birthdays, and 4th of July between the different family members. When you pushed back from the table after dessert, everyone got up and took a stroll around the fields and buildings to settle your dinner. You had better have orange in the shed when it was your time for inspection! |
Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2017 at 2:20pm
Creston, I'm not going to disagree with all your opinions, you're entitled. But how can a conventional combine introduced in 1970 be a copy of the axial flow style introduced by IH in 1977? Who must have "copied" from the New Holland rotaries introduced in 1975? People have be-otched about those Deeres copying Massey with the offset cab....maybe a little more argument to stand on, but whatever. |
Posted By: Lonn
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2017 at 3:21pm
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Posted By: TimNearFortWorth
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2017 at 3:29pm
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Creston, don't feel bad for wanting a 4020 as they sold so many of them for a reason. Countless times I have explained to folks how A-C chased that darned 4020, tough when a model like that had/built such a strong foothold on that market segment but the 190XT in my opinion gave the JD boys a run for their money. Never gave the 3020 or 4020 much thought until I used them and those later models are a decent machine. When word gets out it is hard to change folks minds but I think A-C did a pretty good job promoting their line, watching some of the promo videos posted on here shows they put forth a great effort. JD marketing now is interesting to say the least and gold dust must still be mixed in that paint! |
Posted By: JasonB
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2017 at 3:40pm
If only Allis Chalmers had Deere's way of marketing and better management of AC in general, they likely would still have been around today selling AG tractors. BUT in the day, Allis did do a good job of marketing and selling the brand. Love reading the AC advertisement books that were put out by Putt Putt puzzle's a few years ago. Some very nice painted pictures and a wonderful way to advertise the brand. Would have taken some time and effort to hand paint all those paintings for the AC advertisements. You would not see that today. Jason |
Posted By: skateboarder68
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2017 at 3:57pm
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Grew up around AC's and Gleaner's and still farm with them. Mostly green around here and quite a few red ones too. There are a few orange diehards like me still using them thanks to a local (10 miles) guy, a former A.C. mechanic that works on them and knows the inside of most Gleaners like the back of his hand. Also a good dealer half hour away. No plans to change any time soon. AC equipment has been good for us but we are a small farm and keep stuff shedded cause if stuff finds its way here it will be here a long time! Some of the green guys rib me about how much better their resale value is. Ok, but ya gotta pay for it first and I will be pushing daises when my stuff sells so. . . ------------- Orange & Silver still earnin their keep on the farm: R62, Series IV D17 nf, 185, 6080, 6080 fwa, 220, 1968 D21, 7045, DT240. |
Posted By: Dave(inMA)
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2017 at 4:46pm
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I got interested in Allis tractors entirely by accident. Bought a C in the early '80's because that's what a local farmer had for sale when I went looking. I just wanted a small tractor that would tow a small trailer on our lot.........then I got busy and the C sat until the engine stuck. Found another farmer through my church who was a pretty good shade tree mechanic to help me fix the C. Turned out he had a WD that he used at tractor pulls. Of course, he got me interested in pulling once the C was back on its feet. And from there I added a WC (needed a larger tractor for pulling), a D14, then a CA, a G and finally a WD45. Every now and then I take one of them to my friend's farm to give it a workout - and the WC to pulls! ------------- WC, CA, D14, WD45 |
Posted By: CrestonM
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2017 at 5:20pm
Yes, like Lonn said, the JI Case 1660, not the Case IH 1660 axial rotary. Don't you just love it when manufacturers re-use model numbers? Lol
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Posted By: macvette
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2017 at 5:49pm
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Dad bought a very well used RC when he decided to sell the horses. I was very young, but remember him coming to the house to get me so I could see the horses leave in the stock truck. Tractor, mounted mower and cultivators just arrived. Neighbors had JD, and I asked Dad why we didn't have one of those. He said they were too expensive for the same size tractor he bought. Used the tractor for quite a few years doing everything, until you couldn't complete any work without changing oil fouled plugs. We had it overhauled, and aside from that overhaul, maintenance was minimal. Dad always maintained his equipment well. We only had 40 acres, and that tractor did whatever was asked of it. Fast forward to today = here I am on 1 acre of land, no crops, and I have a CA, a gas 180 w/loader, and a WD (in all fairness, I am going to sell the WD - just am not going to get to it for more improvements)! plus a few small AC garden tractors! At 71 years old, I have a fair idea of how many projects I am likely to complete!
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Posted By: Bill Long
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2017 at 6:05pm
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I did not have a choice. My father sold Allis Chalmers Equipment. He started selling when I was old enough to remember and I can remember nothing other that Allis Chalmers Orange. That said, in most cases we always did a better job than our competition. They made good, solid, dependable equipment for years. Good Luck! Bill Long
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Posted By: Ranse
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2017 at 7:27pm
| When I was growing up, most boys liked whatever their Daddy had. I don't think Allis Chalmers was as popular in the south, so my friends used to tease me a lot. Most of them liked John Deere, International, even Massey was cooler. However, I never wavered, still orange til this day. |
Posted By: Mike Plotner
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2017 at 7:45pm
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Great grandpa started with WCs. Grandpa's first tractor was a WD. He then had a D-17 then a D-19, followed by a 190 XT. He then sold the first 190 and bought the one I farm with. He had all-crops and a E Gleaner before going to Deere with combines. Him and his brother had their Allis Chalmers dealership in Marysville in the late 60s and early 70s. I started farming with one of my great grandpa's WDs. Bought my L2 when I was in high school. Guess you could say I've always been around them and always liked them ------------- 2001 Gleaner R42, 1978 7060, 1977 7000, 1966 190 XT, 1966 D-17 Series IV and 1952 WD and more keep my farm running! |
Posted By: AC720Man
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2017 at 8:18pm
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I to grew up on AC. Started with my grandpaw buying a new 1956 WD45. Of course I wasn't born yet, but I can remember my dad and uncles using it for everything from plowing, to seeding, to harvesting, to sawmill work. It is still in the family. I do remember my dad buying his first new AC, 1968 series II D-15. He bought a used D-14 some years later. He still has ithe D-15 and I restored it a few years back. It just needed fresh paint. It's on Sandy Lakes website. The D- 15 did so much work on the 250 acres we farmed. In 1981 while I was plowing, I backed up over the furo I just finished too fast, it snapped the lift arm shaft. As we sat at the local dealer ordering parts, dad was concerned about getting the fields done before the rain set in that weekend. Kenny looked at dad and said no problem, i have a new tractor I want to try out, no better place to try it than pullin a 3-16 bottom plow. Dad laughed and said, I am not buying a new tractor so let me borrow the used D-17 out back. Well, before you know it a new 6060 was on the roll back heading to our farm, to test of course. By the time dad made 3 rounds he kept upping the gear selection, he was grinning ear to ear. I think this tractor has endless power! Needless to say, dad bought it and we still have it. The CA has been a good little tractor to. We use it with a 6 ft woods belly mower to keep the grass mowed on the river bottom picnic area. Dad has full cultivator set, 2-bottom plow for it, and a sickle bar mower. The only Allis dad sold was the D-14 when he bought the 6060, and he regretted it. Just did not have Room in the shed. It was also a hard worker, amazed at the power that little tractor had. Only down fall was no power steering. Now I have added a 190XT and I am enjoying it. Biggest tractor on the farm now. Mowed hay using a AC 390 haybine this past summer and I was impressed how nimble it was making the turns with a little right brake pedal. Of course the power director is a huge asset. Powerful turbo engine and good looks. Doing a restoration now, not a show piece, as she will have to earn her keep on the farm. The D-15 I would have to say has been my favorite. I have seen that little tractor work hard and not ever complain. Has had a clutch and power director rebuild, brakes. But that's it. Rock solid reliable. I love all of our AC's. each has it's own strengths and weakness, but they all share one thing. Reliability. I am still so damned mad with AC going out of business. Will never get over it. I bleed Orange just like so many of you and if there was some way they would come back, well life would be just awesome. ------------- 1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD |
Posted By: DIESEL
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2017 at 8:28pm
The first tractor I bought was a 504 gas farmall, I put a little Duall loader on it and it worked all right, but I thought I needed something bigger to feed cow's with. So I bought a 4010 Jack Deere, was around the 10 and 20 series most of my life. I put a Westendorf WL-42 loader on the 4010 and got along pretty good. By this time my brother had bought a 190 and between running his and the Deere needing massive transmission work I jumped ship. I bought a 200 from a great young guy from northeast Nebraska, I put the Westendorf on the 200 and WOW!!! I really have something now, and I've been hooked ever since I love my AC's!
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Posted By: littlemarv
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2017 at 8:45pm
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Grandpa Carl was old fashioned, I've been told. Always bucked change, always preferred doing things the old fashioned ways, even if it meant more work. Finally, in 1948, he gave up on the horses, and ordered a John Deere (A or B, I think) from the dealer in town. He made the trip into town a while later to pick it up, and lo and behold, the dealer had sold it to someone else! (Would have loved to be a fly on the wall for that conversation) Grandpa walked across the street to the Allis dealer, slapped the money on the barrel head, and drove home on a shiny model B with a sickle mower under it! Here it is at age 69. Still working around the family farm. http://s304.photobucket.com/user/rsommer1/media/IMG_20150705_135128467_HDR_zpsrfyqvxor.jpg.html" rel="nofollow">  My Pa quit farming when I was real young, so the B was our firewood tractor, nimble in the woods, and boy, the wood we've hauled with that thing..... Fast forward 50 years. Big brother decided he wanted to plant food plots, and bought a D-14 for himself. He asked little brother to fix it up, and while little brother was searching for "Allis Chalmers" on the internet, the autosuggest feature brought up "Allis Chalmers garden tractor". Whoa! Allis made a garden tractor!? I live in town, and can't justify a full size tractor. But a garden tractor? Now we are talking! Didn't take long before I had a few of those.... Pretty soon I found the simpletractors website, and not long afterwards I popped up on here! Then I started moving on to the bigger tractors. Just think if they had held that green thing for my grandfather. Funny how life works. I am now building my Allis collection so someday I can farm the original Sommer family farm, 80 acres of popple purchased from the railroad for $400, cleared and broken by my great grandfather, around 1895. ------------- The mechanic always wins. B91131, WC23065, WD89101, CA29479, B1, Early B10, HB212, 416H |
Posted By: Mikez
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2017 at 8:47pm
| Was born into allis. Grew up playing behind the old parts counter being told not to move anything. Grew up around many allis lawn and garden tractors. My grandfather was still at the time servicing many of them for customers. And I think as the customers past away my dad would acquire the garden tractors back. And on the farm side. They had D-14,15,17 on farm |
Posted By: prettyview
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2017 at 9:02pm
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Grew up with Allis tractors. Before my time my grandfather had a Rumley tractor. I am not sure which one. My dad bought a new WD in 1948 then traded on a new WD45 in 1954. In 1962 he bought a D17. Traded that on a new 190 in 1964. As us boys got older and he got more land he added to the fleet with a D17 series IV and a two D19's one gas for winter work and a diesel as a second field tractor. He traded both d19's on a 200 and eventually traded it on a new 7040 the last Allis he owned. When Allis went out of business in 1986 he would have nothing to do with AGCO and moved on to John Deere. When i left home and bought a farm of my own i used a D17 and then a 6080 for chores probably the best tractor they ever made. When our shop burned in 2000 with most of the machinery in it we switched to John Deere as well until we retired a few years ago. Now i have two restored hobby tractors a 1939 B and of course a 1954 WD45. My last one will be a D21 series 1 that has 1900 hours and has been parked since 1974. The fellow that owns it can't bear to part with anything but has promised i get first dibs on it in his estate.
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Posted By: GARY(OH/IN)
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2017 at 11:52pm
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Dad bought a 49 WD in 50 and I remember seeing it at the dealer at 3 years old. He bought an old no hydralic JD A at a sale. Ever use a set of JD hand lift cultivators? The WD caught fire when Dad ran the gas tank over and we think it had a loose battery terminal. Lucky they say as the 275 gallon tank next to it was full and didn't explode. I took the WD to VO AG shop at school and replaced all fire damaged parts and and put on some orange paint. It sure wasn't AC orange though and we never put lights and a starter back on it. Dad bought a beautiful WD 45 at a sale for $1600 while the WD was down. Had wide front and the one owner had kept it waxed and covered in the shed. Then Dad bought 200 acres 19 miles from home and we towed the 45 back and forth for heavier work. Added a JD AR and an unstyled WC from 2 different farm sales on the same day. Loved the mechanical light cultivators on the WC but the steering was worn and you had to be good at guessing what direction she was headed next. The AR was ok too as I could get up and move around on the platform to help stay awake after my late night carousing. The popping helped alot too. Next came a MF 65 diesel with loader and 4 /14s. What a piece of crap it was. Too light and had hydralic issues. And I could not stay awake on that thing. I'd wake up, look back and see I'd disked figure 8's, etc. Time to hook up the Johnny Popper. It soon left and was replaced by a D19 diesel. Hardly ran it as I was drafted about then. Dad retired with a Ford 9700,8700, 2 5000's and a 4000 and the old WD45 which was stolen and are all setting in sheds waiting on him to return. Sadly he won't. I have owned in this order a JD B, MM Z, Case Vac, 3 Fordson Majors, Oliver 88, Farmall 460, and now 9 AC 5015's I use in property clean up and maintenance. I baby them so they make it to the end for me and I'll be 70 soon. Sorry post is so long. |
Posted By: Lonn
Date Posted: 03 Mar 2017 at 6:18am
------------- -- --- .... .- -- -- .- -.. / .-- .- ... / .- / -- ..- .-. -.. . .-. .. -. --. / -.-. .... .. .-.. -.. / .-. .- .--. .. ... - Wink I am a Russian Bot |
Posted By: dt1050
Date Posted: 03 Mar 2017 at 6:27am
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love hearing these stories. I'm surrounded by new kioti and kubota's and 1 ford 2000 that never leaves the shed?, but I'm still running he Allis. I was sold on allis the minute my but hit the seat on the wd 45. ------------- Just cause it's orange don't make it a tractor, there's only one..Allis Chalmers |
Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 03 Mar 2017 at 6:40am
Oh,. . .my bad. |
Posted By: Lonn
Date Posted: 03 Mar 2017 at 6:43am
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No, good. We all got to see a pretty picture of a combine even if it isn't a Gleaner. The "bad , no good" reminds me of Roy Clark and Archie Campbell ------------- -- --- .... .- -- -- .- -.. / .-- .- ... / .- / -- ..- .-. -.. . .-. .. -. --. / -.-. .... .. .-.. -.. / .-. .- .--. .. ... - Wink I am a Russian Bot |
Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 03 Mar 2017 at 6:51am
Hahaha! Those were some funnies there! |
Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 03 Mar 2017 at 7:00am
| So that Case....looks like it was made from 1963-1970. Didn't look to be too well liked....at least from my 4 minutes of research! Hahaha |
Posted By: Lonn
Date Posted: 03 Mar 2017 at 7:12am
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I don't know how good they were but my neighbor liked their Case. I think it was a 960 though. When my dad was growing up near Paynesville MN he said there were a lot of Case combines in the area. Of course there was a good Case dealer there where his dad worked at as a mechanic. ------------- -- --- .... .- -- -- .- -.. / .-- .- ... / .- / -- ..- .-. -.. . .-. .. -. --. / -.-. .... .. .-.. -.. / .-. .- .--. .. ... - Wink I am a Russian Bot |
Posted By: dt1050
Date Posted: 03 Mar 2017 at 7:25am
An older fella I worked with had an Oliver 77 and asked if I could look up the horsepower and such for it. Went to tractordata.com and printed out the spec's for it. Then I showed him the specs for the WD 45. his face turned red and he started complaining. "how can your WD 45 have more power with a 4 cyl, than my oliver with that big 6 cyc. engine"...He complained about that for months...
------------- Just cause it's orange don't make it a tractor, there's only one..Allis Chalmers |
Posted By: tractormanpj
Date Posted: 03 Mar 2017 at 8:06am
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My grandpa and his brothers started out with JD. In 1977 they split up farming they had some 4020s and we still have the one we ended up with. Before they split up my unlces went and started a farm in a different county and there was a farm sale and my uncles bought a 220 and some other things and then they bought a 190XT from the dealer. My grandpa got convinced to buy the 180 at the farm sale and my grandpa loved that tractor. My unlces would plow all our ground and would come back and fourth between counties with those tractors. Then my uncles came and started farming with us and our AC tractor line expanded. We always had AC and always will! Now me and my brother bought our own AC tractor a 7060 and I plan to restore it before I get out of high school. Thats why we have AC. ------------- WD 180 190XT 7045 Gleaner S98 |
Posted By: DUMBASS
Date Posted: 08 Mar 2017 at 12:10pm
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I HAVE A D15 SERIES I FOR SALE $1500 HYD PROBLEM PAINT POOR RUNS NO TRANNY PROBLEM HOME BUILT 3 POINT WEST CENTRIAL PA,
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Posted By: mdm1
Date Posted: 08 Mar 2017 at 4:26pm
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I guess I am the guy out here. Never grew up using tractors although we did have a ford jubilee at one time. Not a farm kid either. We bought our WD-45 because it was my daughter-in-laws Grandpa's tractor and it was being used by her Dad. Because of her Dad's untimely passing we bought it to keep it the family for her. Needed a mowing tractor so I bought a C. Now looking for a B. ------------- Everything is impossible until someone does it! WD45-trip loader 1947 c w/woods belly mower, 1939 B, #3 sickle mower 1944 B, 2 1948 G's. Misc other equipment that my wife calls JUNK! |
Posted By: Randy MN
Date Posted: 08 Mar 2017 at 8:19pm
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Grandpa went from horses to a used B. Loved it so much he got another used B. Needless to say my dad was partial to Allis Chalmers so when he and mom started their own farm they had a B and a CA with loader. When mom and dad stopped farming the CA went to my uncle where I put many hours raking and hauling hay loads with it. I bought my fist B when I was 14 to use for skidding peeled poplar out of the woods in the fall. Allis Chalmers was/is in the family blood line!
------------- 34 WC #477, 38 B #1935, 1-116 on steel, #8 7ft dbl action disc, #9 5ft dbl action disc, 295 Chainsaw |
Posted By: McAllis
Date Posted: 09 Mar 2017 at 12:28am
| There is no why. There is ONLY Allis-Chalmers. |
Posted By: Bob J Wi
Date Posted: 09 Mar 2017 at 8:51am
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My dad bought a Ford 8N. He then bought an all-crop 60 combine. Pulling the AC 60 was a little to much for the 8N. So he bought a WD 45 at an auction in the late 50's. The WD 45 handled the all crop with no problems. It had plenty of power. Now my son and I hobby farm the land with an AC 200, a 3 bottom series 80 plow, and 3 all crop 66's combines. 2 of them work and one is for parts. Looking for a 4 bottom IH 720 plow for the 200. |
Posted By: dt1050
Date Posted: 09 Mar 2017 at 11:59am
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That's why I got my first Allis our 8n just didn't have the power to do the work we needed. The front was to light on the 8n, the front wheels were always off the ground. till I put a loader on it, then it was to heavy and hard to steer. had to lift the front wheels up with the loader to steer it if it had a load in the bucket. no live pto on the ford either, makes brush hogging a pain. I didn't grow up farming either, but new it was something I wanted to do. had to learn about tractors as I went. but when ya go from an 8n to a wd45 there is absolutely no comparison. ------------- Just cause it's orange don't make it a tractor, there's only one..Allis Chalmers |