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Topic: 8.3 conversion
Posted By: randy
Subject: 8.3 conversion
Date Posted: 18 Dec 2016 at 10:18am
Does anyone have any pictures of an 8.3 in a 8000 series they could share? Thinking of doing one and some pics would help? Front motor mount and anything else in the front would be great.
Thanks Randy


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CA WD WD45 D17 D17 Diesel 7060 8050 8070



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Posted By: skateboarder68
Date Posted: 18 Dec 2016 at 10:56am
Had a former A.C. mechanic put an 8.3 in an 8050 13 years ago. Ours was the first one, he did a few more since then. I know there was a notch cut out of the front left side rail (not sure why). Also I believe he had to make a 180 degree exhaust pipe so the original hole in the hood could be used. Made a heck of a tractor out of it, still going strong in the neighborhood.

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Orange & Silver still earnin their keep on the farm: R62, Series IV D17 nf, 185, 6080, 6080 fwa, 220, 1968 D21, 7045, DT240.


Posted By: Jwmac7060
Date Posted: 18 Dec 2016 at 2:15pm
Randy I have the number of the guy who bought all of Hundleys stuff to do 8.3 conversions if you want it...He did one for me in a 8070...Made it a great tractor...I don't have the tractor anymore


Posted By: victoryallis
Date Posted: 18 Dec 2016 at 6:37pm
If pics for a 7580 would help I can text or email some    

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8030 and 8050MFWD, 7580, 3 6080's, 160, 7060, 175, heirloom D17, Deere 8760


Posted By: randy
Date Posted: 18 Dec 2016 at 7:21pm
Yes, i think any pics of the front motor mount and the front end would help. I did talk to Dick Lutz, I think thats his last name, seemed like he knew his stuff. Was hoping to find one half way close to me to check out. Thanks. Email is farmer7@juno.com

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CA WD WD45 D17 D17 Diesel 7060 8050 8070


Posted By: victoryallis
Date Posted: 18 Dec 2016 at 7:33pm
Ok might be a couple days before it works out to take pics.

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8030 and 8050MFWD, 7580, 3 6080's, 160, 7060, 175, heirloom D17, Deere 8760


Posted By: Mikez
Date Posted: 18 Dec 2016 at 10:52pm
Think Ivan has a 8030 with cummins in it


Posted By: AC7060IL
Date Posted: 19 Dec 2016 at 1:44pm
Does the Cummins 8.3 being swapped need an aftercooler like those in industrial applications or will any donor truck engine do just as well?


Posted By: Jwmac7060
Date Posted: 19 Dec 2016 at 4:06pm
Should have an aftercooler


Posted By: thuddylikessmoke
Date Posted: 19 Dec 2016 at 8:57pm
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Posted By: Charlie175
Date Posted: 20 Dec 2016 at 4:49am
From the Hunley Site
http://www.hunleyrepairanddiagnostics.com/hunleyrepairanddiagnostics_002.htm" rel="nofollow - http://www.hunleyrepairanddiagnostics.com/hunleyrepairanddiagnostics_002.htm

 Allis Chalmers Tractors

 

6060, 6070, 6080

  • 4BT 3.9L Turbo – 100 to 120 HP (flywheel)

 7010, 7020, 7030, 7040, 7045, 7050, 7060, 8010

  • 6BT 5.9L Turbo – 152 HP (flywheel)
  • 6BT 5.9L Turbo/Aftercooled – 174 HP (flywheel)

 7030, 7040, 7045, 7050, 7060, 7080, 7580, 8030, 8050, 8070, 4W220

  • 6CT 8.3L Turbo – 205 HP (flywheel)
  • 6CTA 8.3L Turbo/Aftercooled – 230 HP (flywheel)

 8550, 4W305

  • 855 Turbo – 335 HP (flywheel


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Charlie

'48 B, '51 CA, '56 WD45 '61 D17, '63 D12, '65 D10 , '68 One-Ninety XTD


Posted By: Charlie175
Date Posted: 20 Dec 2016 at 5:33am
Adapter plate on ebay
http://www.ebay.com/itm/8-3-Cummins-to-AC-Allis-Chalmers-Adapter-Kit-includes-flywheel-/291785018192" rel="nofollow - http://www.ebay.com/itm/8-3-Cummins-to-AC-Allis-Chalmers-Adapter-Kit-includes-flywheel-/291785018192


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Charlie

'48 B, '51 CA, '56 WD45 '61 D17, '63 D12, '65 D10 , '68 One-Ninety XTD


Posted By: randy
Date Posted: 20 Dec 2016 at 7:52am
I saw the ebay rear plate, was hoping to see a front motor mount to see if i could fab one myself.

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CA WD WD45 D17 D17 Diesel 7060 8050 8070


Posted By: Charlie175
Date Posted: 20 Dec 2016 at 9:46am
I looked around and didn't find any pictures of the engine mounting.



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Charlie

'48 B, '51 CA, '56 WD45 '61 D17, '63 D12, '65 D10 , '68 One-Ninety XTD


Posted By: victoryallis
Date Posted: 21 Dec 2016 at 10:16am
Randy email is sent

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8030 and 8050MFWD, 7580, 3 6080's, 160, 7060, 175, heirloom D17, Deere 8760


Posted By: randy
Date Posted: 21 Dec 2016 at 12:23pm
Got the pics, Thanks again!!!

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CA WD WD45 D17 D17 Diesel 7060 8050 8070


Posted By: randy
Date Posted: 22 Dec 2016 at 12:38pm
I got the tractor split today. What needs to be done to check out the power director clutch, if any thing? 

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CA WD WD45 D17 D17 Diesel 7060 8050 8070


Posted By: Jwmac7060
Date Posted: 22 Dec 2016 at 1:42pm
Change the torque limiter while it's split


Posted By: SteveM C/IL
Date Posted: 22 Dec 2016 at 11:04pm
Originally posted by randy randy wrote:

I got the tractor split today. What needs to be done to check out the power director clutch, if any thing? 

Get a service manual and follow instructions...pull the PD out and take it apart.Check steels for warp and plates for wear.Most likely don't need hard parts.Buy seal kit and put it back together.Not difficult but has to be done RIGHT!


Posted By: randy
Date Posted: 23 Dec 2016 at 6:35am
I remember some post on this in the past, but couldnt find them. I have a service manual from Allis Chalmers. Thanks for the info!

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CA WD WD45 D17 D17 Diesel 7060 8050 8070


Posted By: mpund2890
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2017 at 6:45pm
Hey victoryallis, is there any way I could get you to send me pics of the 7580 that has a Cummins in it. I'm lookin to do the same thing with our 7580. Pics of the motor mounts and other details would be very helpful.


Posted By: victoryallis
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2017 at 7:25pm
Originally posted by mpund2890 mpund2890 wrote:

Hey victoryallis, is there any way I could get you to send me pics of the 7580 that has a Cummins in it. I'm lookin to do the same thing with our 7580. Pics of the motor mounts and other details would be very helpful.


Can you PM me your email address ? I struggle post pics to this site.

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8030 and 8050MFWD, 7580, 3 6080's, 160, 7060, 175, heirloom D17, Deere 8760


Posted By: mpund2890
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2017 at 11:56am
My email is mpund2890@yahoo.com


Posted By: victoryallis
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2017 at 7:31pm
Mpund pics are sent if you need more feel free to ask I had those in my computer already.

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8030 and 8050MFWD, 7580, 3 6080's, 160, 7060, 175, heirloom D17, Deere 8760


Posted By: Calvin Schmidt
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2017 at 8:55am
I know of a 7580 and 8050 both powered by an 8.3 and installed with Hunley kits. Owners say that the 8.3 made them real tractors. 

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Nothing is impossible if it is properly financed


Posted By: JohnCO
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2017 at 12:07pm
That adapter plate is pretty pricey but unless you have the proper tools it would be hard to make in most shops. 

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"If at first you don't succeed, get a bigger hammer"
Allis Express participant


Posted By: Dkienzle
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2017 at 12:24pm
Both sides of the frame need notched. Left side for the front engine cover and right side for the oil filter. If I stop by dad's tonight I'll take some pics of our 7080. You will not regret doing this. On an 8000 series you will have to reroute the exhaust to make it come out the factory location.


Posted By: randy
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2017 at 4:12pm
I took a few pics when i went to look at an 8070 with a 8.3. Not the best, but will do. 

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CA WD WD45 D17 D17 Diesel 7060 8050 8070


Posted By: Jordan(OH)
Date Posted: 17 Feb 2017 at 4:43am
You do not need to notch the frame on either side.


Posted By: randy
Date Posted: 17 Feb 2017 at 5:51am
Did the fan come with the kit? I didnt check that out when i was there. 

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CA WD WD45 D17 D17 Diesel 7060 8050 8070


Posted By: Jordan(OH)
Date Posted: 17 Feb 2017 at 2:35pm
You will have to drill the fan for the bolt holes but it will sit right in the shroud.


Posted By: T in ne
Date Posted: 20 Aug 2019 at 12:29pm
Hunley's site appears to be being kept up, are they not making this stuff any more? If not, is anyone?


Posted By: DougG
Date Posted: 20 Aug 2019 at 6:38pm
that's a crazy price for that adapter plate , im with JohnCo , could easily be made in a good farm shop,, just my opinion now!


Posted By: randy
Date Posted: 20 Aug 2019 at 8:10pm
The ebay price is with a new flywheel. 

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CA WD WD45 D17 D17 Diesel 7060 8050 8070



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