HD15G TO THE ALLIS CHALMERS COLLECTION
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Topic: HD15G TO THE ALLIS CHALMERS COLLECTION
Posted By: AC Mel
Subject: HD15G TO THE ALLIS CHALMERS COLLECTION
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2016 at 11:18pm
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Ok, We took a day off of our day job to rescue this HD15 loader for our collection. We're still working on the Grapple Facelift and I'll get some posts up soon. We've known of this tractor for over 20 years and have tried to make a deal for the last 10 years. The owner was in failing health when we made a deal last November. It was last run 5 years ago. I made a trip to start it but it was not cooperative, I suspect a blower problem similar to the HD19 that we posted earlier. We opted to maybe hire someone local to bring a tractor and load it for us. In the end we just took our own dozer. This is where it sat when we started.  So one of the biggest challenges was getting the lowbed set up. That actually went well and it's the video here. http://vid966.photobucket.com/albums/ae147/doowder1/HD15%20NOYO/Cozad%20at%20Noyo_zps9zcrbvff.mp4" rel="nofollow - http://vid966.photobucket.com/albums/ae147/doowder1/HD15%20NOYO/Cozad%20at%20Noyo_zps9zcrbvff.mp4 So the reason we took this D5 instead of the 11B was because it was smaller and more hauler friendly.  So we didn't know what to expect when we started pushing.  It went well because it moved. Had to move it past a tree to push it sideways to get it going the right direction  Got it going the right direction pretty easy.  It's a brute!!!  It looked like we were on a roll so we had to set up some blocks to run up on the lowbed.  Grandson Trenton was on his first tractor recovery event and set up blocks on the lowbed.  Ok, so that's how we set it up so far. Here's a 6 min video of loading it. I spliced it together but didn't edit any of it, but you get the idea. http://vid966.photobucket.com/albums/ae147/doowder1/HD15%20NOYO/HD15%20LOADING%20NOYO_zpsjiqtrajd.mp4" rel="nofollow - http://vid966.photobucket.com/albums/ae147/doowder1/HD15%20NOYO/HD15%20LOADING%20NOYO_zpsjiqtrajd.mp4 So once it was loaded Trenton secured wide load flags.  There was a large homemade bucket that has slots for the log forks to hook in. John used the septic tank boom truck to load it. Don't know that we'll use it but it came with the tractor. We had the boom truck for extra loading power but didn't need it.  Sat on the truck for several days before we got around to unloading it.  There's more, but I'll have to do it tomorrow. |
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Posted By: JohnCO
Date Posted: 22 Jul 2016 at 12:41am
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Did you have to make another trip back to get the Cat? ------------- "If at first you don't succeed, get a bigger hammer" Allis Express participant |
Posted By: AC Mel
Date Posted: 22 Jul 2016 at 9:57am
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John, yes David went back with a different lowbed trailer to pickup the Cat the same day. FYI that's the only Caterpillar dozer we own (nice tractor too). But we did unload it with a "mans tractor" http://vid966.photobucket.com/albums/ae147/doowder1/HD15%20NOYO/HD%2015G%20UNLOAD_zpsdv1hz4qv.mp4" rel="nofollow - http://vid966.photobucket.com/albums/ae147/doowder1/HD15%20NOYO/HD%2015G%20UNLOAD_zpsdv1hz4qv.mp4 So we also found this little guy down in back that needed to be moved out of the way. Truth be known we're getting them closer to the AC museum building in the back round, maybe it will get a roof this winter. http://vid966.photobucket.com/albums/ae147/doowder1/HD15%20NOYO/HD5%20RELOCATION_zpsq3xt3ann.mp4" rel="nofollow - http://vid966.photobucket.com/albums/ae147/doowder1/HD15%20NOYO/HD5%20RELOCATION_zpsq3xt3ann.mp4 
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Posted By: DMiller
Date Posted: 22 Jul 2016 at 11:59am
| What a tank! Weight wise what series Allis would it equate to as a dozer instead of loader & how much weight? About what year? |
Posted By: CAL(KS)
Date Posted: 22 Jul 2016 at 12:37pm
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HD15 ship weight is 27,500 and has 6-71 detroit. guessing around 37k with loader parts? produced '50-'55 ------------- Me -C,U,UC,WC,WD45,190XT,TL-12,145T,HD6G,HD16,HD20 Dad- WD, D17D, D19D, RT100A, 7020, 7080,7580, 2-8550's, 2-S77, HD15 |
Posted By: JohnCO
Date Posted: 22 Jul 2016 at 1:33pm
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Might be time to go pick up the HD41!
------------- "If at first you don't succeed, get a bigger hammer" Allis Express participant |
Posted By: AC Mel
Date Posted: 22 Jul 2016 at 11:33pm
Dave, This is he same as the HD15 dozer. Cals right about the shipping weight. If you wanted a dozer and maybe a winch, then your dealer put all that on, and they had different manufacturers to draw from for blades, canopys, winches, etc. If you want a loader configuration then it would come from the factory with the "TRACTOMOTIVE LOADER'' setup. AC later bought out the tractomotive line from the owner, Vandobus, (probably didn't spell that right). So this HD15 dozer tractor with Carco blade,front unit,A frame, winch, canopy, guards, etc. weighed 40,000 lbs. (I know the exact weight is posted in the past posts somewhere). So we had allowed as much as 48,000 for this tractor to weigh based on our research and (self inflicted expertise LOL). But to our surprise it weighed in at 53,000 lbs. It weighed as much as the HD19 in an earlier post. We weighed it on our truck scales when we brought it in and were totally shocked!!! We did not get an over weight permit because we knew it didn't weigh that much. (If we had to pay that fine it would have put us back at least 3 or 4 tractor buys LOL) The tractomotive setup is very heavy,the forks are extra, the winch, the canopy, there's probably at least 2 tons of dirt on the swing frames still. The swing frames have been welded on with 1'' steel fish plates, inside and out (1000 lbs?) John, Haven't heard from the HD41 guy (Really don't want to go there, but yes would love to have it in the yard) |
Posted By: DMiller
Date Posted: 23 Jul 2016 at 9:01am
| I had no idea that the early loader/dozer attachments were not essentially delivered with the tractors but had to be ordered from suppliers. As to the weight WOW! That is a mass of iron and 1" plate at last figure was 40+# a square foot. Still cool to watch you all fix them up to functional and running. I can only dream of doing so here. |
Posted By: Sugarmaker
Date Posted: 23 Jul 2016 at 9:12pm
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Just Awesome! Thanks for posting the recovery and info about the weights of these machines! Regards, Chris ------------- D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet. |
Posted By: Ian Beale
Date Posted: 24 Jul 2016 at 4:02am
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Re the HD 41 Little brother HD 31 mentioned here. This might be have come up before but helps explain why there seems to be a certain reluctance on that project http://www.vannattabros.com/dozer.html |
Posted By: DMiller
Date Posted: 24 Jul 2016 at 5:44pm
| Massive machines, meant for large excavations and pits not just run of the mill users. |
Posted By: Lee Bradley
Date Posted: 25 Jul 2016 at 12:44am
| Loaders are heavy. I ran a 12G for a while building logging roads and moved it from job to job. The owner said if I got caught at a weigh station just leave the keys. That thing weighted more than the gross tonnage of the lowboy (68,000). Those loaders don't look that heavy because they're so compact. |
Posted By: SteveM C/IL
Date Posted: 25 Jul 2016 at 9:30am
| Those 5H's are sweet tractors.Don't know if they live as long as the old 6C's but comfort and ease of operation is something else!It's a pleasure to watch the guy who owns the one I played in cut a waterway with it. |
Posted By: Acdiesel
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2016 at 7:46pm
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great work and great pictures, i like your passion. dan ------------- D19 Diesel,D17 Diesel SER.3 2-D14, 2-D15 SER.II WF/NF D15 SER.2 DIESEL D12 SER.I, D10 Ser.II 2-720'S D21 Ser. II Gmc,caterpillar I'm a pharmacist (farm assist) with a PHD (post hole digger) |
Posted By: R.KYLE
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2016 at 8:20pm
| MEL WHATS ON THE TRACTOR FOR A WINCH? |
Posted By: AC Mel
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2016 at 10:27pm
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Roy, It's a Carco model G. It was the standard size for HD15s and 16s. The HD9G next to it has a model F standard for HD9s and 11s. |
Posted By: R.KYLE
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2016 at 9:05pm
| MEL I HAVE A CARGO J120 WOULD IT FIT AN HD15 OR 16? |
Posted By: AC Mel
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2016 at 10:47pm
| Roy, I think it will fit a 15 or 16, but it's actually designed for 19, 20 and 21s or a D8 size tractors. |
Posted By: Josh H
Date Posted: 04 Aug 2016 at 11:25pm
| Like to see the youth involved! |