Hay Rakes
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Topic: Hay Rakes
Posted By: ALHO
Subject: Hay Rakes
Date Posted: 08 Feb 2016 at 10:17am
I am looking at a 8 wheel hay rake with kicker Deere 702 who made this rake and what models are same (manufacturer ?) Thanks
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Posted By: BenGiBoy
Date Posted: 08 Feb 2016 at 10:25am
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Posted By: Ky.Allis
Date Posted: 08 Feb 2016 at 12:51pm
I'm not sure who made it but Vermeer had one identical to it. I bought a JD 702 (8) wheel rake back in 2008. It was one year old and off lease from university of KY. Since I'm by myself I thought it would be a real timesaver vs. my old NH rake. I raked about 4 acres with it and unhooked it and vowed to never use it again and I have not. I was raking tall orchard grass and fescue mix and it made the worst,sloppiest windrow you can imagine. It was a nightmare baling it. I eventually sold it to a neighbor and he hates it too but still uses it. Newer wheel rakes are much better but with with the small amount of hay I have I will just stick to my old NH. With it I can make the kind of windrow I want instead of what the rake wants.
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Posted By: ALHO
Date Posted: 09 Feb 2016 at 6:40am
thanks for the info.
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Posted By: Gerald J.
Date Posted: 09 Feb 2016 at 9:22am
I started making hay with an IH #5 or #15. The rotating rake drum kicked the hay about three times the ground speed. Really good at shaking the alfalfa leaves off the stems unless pulled very slowly. I made as good windrows with my later Farm Hand wheel rake and could pull it a lot faster without destroying the hay. By then I was cutting with a Hesston PT-10 mower conditioner but I found if I dropped the hay from it as wide as it was mowed, it dried two days faster, so I had to rake to bale it. The hay from the PT-10 was laid like a thatched roof and did not get damaged when rained on, though it did take several days to dry for baling. If I baled in the same direction the baler picked up that narrow windrow like it was a big wide rope.
Gerald J.
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Posted By: ALHO
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2016 at 10:08am
Thamks
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Posted By: rw
Date Posted: 13 Feb 2016 at 1:34pm
I find that long stemmed grass hay that has not been conditioned will not rake very well with a wheel rake as from a sickle bar or disc mower without a conditioner. In fact it really makes kind of a mess. It is just is very stiff and slick all laying one direction and kind of slides across the ground and it will even miss a good bit of that kind of hay. Don't recall using wheel rake on non conditioned hay that had been tedded but tedding might help on the slick and stiff part.
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Posted By: michaelwis
Date Posted: 13 Feb 2016 at 1:44pm
we have a double 5 Vermeer 1022, really like it
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Posted By: ALHO
Date Posted: 13 Feb 2016 at 6:20pm
What type of bsiler do you use??
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Posted By: kinghunter
Date Posted: 13 Feb 2016 at 8:38pm
I believe tonutti builds the rakes and sells them to john deere and vermeer is what ive always been told. and as far as balers i have had best luck with hesston and vermeer balers.
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Posted By: wekracer
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2016 at 6:13am
We had a Deere 605, same as Vermeer R23. Great rake. Just traded it on an R2300 hydra fold. Twin side deliveries just like your new holland. Check them out. You will be very happy with the windrows. They can be a little pricy though.
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Posted By: ALHO
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2016 at 10:25am
What type of Bailer do you use??
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Posted By: thendrix
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2016 at 11:08am
If you're running an older square baler you might have a bit of a time with a v rake as the pickups on the older square balers are pretty narrow for the windrow made by the v rakes. I'm guessing you can adjust the width but it's something to keep in mind.
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