HD11 Not Moving ISSUE
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Topic: HD11 Not Moving ISSUE
Posted By: jchance
Subject: HD11 Not Moving ISSUE
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2016 at 9:27am
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Hi, I have a HD11E serial 8321 After some pushing i noticed it started to not push as hard, so i decided to head back to the shed so if it had any issues it can be fixed at the shed rather than in the middle of a paddock. I made it back to the shed just in time as when i arrived it lost forward and back motion. Im wondering if its just the clutch/transmission or has anyone had this happen to them ? I had to tighten the clutch with a long pry bar, to make it back so i assume its clutch only. Another issue that happened a while ago was that the de revving pedal had lost its spring so i had to jerry rig a bungee strap to give it back its spring, how would i fix this ? I am located in Australia, any help would be appreciated. See some images below of the unit. |
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Posted By: jchance
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2016 at 9:34am
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Posted By: jchance
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2016 at 9:36am
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Posted By: gemdozer
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2016 at 4:30am
| Do you have a wet or dry master cluch and removd the floor plate and check the drive shaft is turning when you say he is't moving |
Posted By: jchance
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2016 at 5:01am
| yep the drive shaft is spinning, i think its a dry clutch |
Posted By: gemdozer
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2016 at 2:09pm
| If your hd11 drive shaft is spenning maybe the stering cluchs need a adjustement |
Posted By: jchance
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2016 at 3:25pm
| how is this done ? |
Posted By: CAL(KS)
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2016 at 3:30pm
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very odd to have both steering clutches out. i think you have something else going on According to parts book you should have oil clutch unless special ordered with dry clutch ENGINE CLUTCH AND HOUSING (Oil Clutch) USAGE: Models HD11B, E,ES,S, F. Standard on tractors serial No. 6911 and up ENGINE CLUTCH AND HOUSING (Dry Clutch) USAGE: Model HD11B,E,ES,S,F tractors prior to serial No. 10001. Standard on units prior to serial No. 6911; optional thereafter. ------------- Me -C,U,UC,WC,WD45,190XT,TL-12,145T,HD6G,HD16,HD20 Dad- WD, D17D, D19D, RT100A, 7020, 7080,7580, 2-8550's, 2-S77, HD15 |
Posted By: jchance
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2016 at 3:31pm
| yeah im thinking it has anything to do with steering clutches |
Posted By: gemdozer
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2016 at 3:41pm
| The stering cluch linkage is by loosen the jam nut of the adjustable yoke at the front end of the stering cluch control rod, extending from the stering lever to the control rod lever of the stering cluch theowout shaft and you should have 3 inchs free travel at top lever |
Posted By: CAL(KS)
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2016 at 3:59pm
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your tractor is 8321 HD11E 41-link standard track, wrap-around radiator guard, mechanical drive, naturally-aspirated diesel engine 10000 engine (Tr.#6427 thru #10000) with mechanical machine slippage is only possible in engine clutch or steering clutch. and since it would be seriously strange to have two steering clutches out at once unless you have oil leaking into BOTH sides, i would still suspect engine clutch. im betting engine clutch since you said you had to adjust. put blade in ground and try to push and see if drive shaft turns. it will spin with tractor in neutral.
------------- Me -C,U,UC,WC,WD45,190XT,TL-12,145T,HD6G,HD16,HD20 Dad- WD, D17D, D19D, RT100A, 7020, 7080,7580, 2-8550's, 2-S77, HD15 |
Posted By: CAL(KS)
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2016 at 4:16pm
im guessing item 14 (spring) on your decellerator issue ------------- Me -C,U,UC,WC,WD45,190XT,TL-12,145T,HD6G,HD16,HD20 Dad- WD, D17D, D19D, RT100A, 7020, 7080,7580, 2-8550's, 2-S77, HD15 |
Posted By: donoman
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2016 at 8:25pm
| The transmission screen housing is visible in the photo,you would have a wet backend and an oil clutch, there should be a dip stick on the right hand side coming out of the clutch housing , the clutch is adjusted by removing the top inspection plate, spin the engine by just touching the starter till the lock plate comes around slacking the 2 lock bolts and slide the lock plate out of the grove and with a big screwdriver or pry bar lever the inner clutch assembly around till the pull on the clutch lever at the bottom of the handle is 40LBS, lock the bolts up. Check the clutch pump is operating,loosing the outlet pipe and spin engine to see if oil is flowing. they are very good clutches as long as they have oil, adjust when it takes less than 30 LBS to pull overcentre. |
Posted By: gemdozer
Date Posted: 28 Jan 2016 at 4:54am
| If you have a wet cluch maybe your cluch oil tank is missing oil and this tank is connect under the cluch housing near the big spring and you could check the level by the dipstick |
Posted By: jchance
Date Posted: 28 Jan 2016 at 5:08am
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thanks everyone, does anyone have a manual handy that has all the torque settings etc
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Posted By: jchance
Date Posted: 06 Feb 2016 at 7:33am
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I pulled the clutch out doesn't appear to be getting oil to the clutch. I pulled the clutch pump off, that was a task getting the bolt off next to the crankcase, if anyone has a tip on getting this back on I would be very grateful. Pump looks fine does anyone have an ideas on what the issue may be? |
Posted By: donoman
Date Posted: 06 Feb 2016 at 1:35pm
| On my HD6E I have bent spanners with the gas torch in a half moon shape to get in behind the steering pump, check the screen on the inlet side and check the hose, the inside rubber lining may have collapsed, did you loosen the outlet pipe on the pump to see if oil was flowing? |
Posted By: DMiller
Date Posted: 06 Feb 2016 at 4:23pm
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On my 7G I end up rolling the hardnose to gain access room and that is minimal at best to access that same steering pump donoman, what a hellish place to hang those pumps! I ended up making a wrench from a cheapo open end t tighten the back bolt, one flat at a time, cut the wrench to use just the end then welded to a nut then put a piece of cold roll bent 90 thru the nut with washer and cotter pin to both sides, still a PITA!! I have had suction lines look great, even a BRAND NEW unit that would suck air like a screen but never leak, what a pain to diagnose. Try loading the clutch pump with white lithium grease, as that will dissipate rapidly in the system, if pulls a prime and loses it then is sucking air, somewhere. I even had issues with the shaft seal on a brake supply hydraulic pump with the bad hoses.
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Posted By: jchance
Date Posted: 10 Feb 2016 at 3:56am
| Any ideas on where to source parts in Australia for a hd11 ? |
Posted By: Steve allis dozer
Date Posted: 10 Feb 2016 at 6:54am
| allis spares and repairs Victoria 03 9719 7415 |