theft ring
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Topic: theft ring
Posted By: tbran
Subject: theft ring
Date Posted: 23 Feb 2015 at 8:48am
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There is a rash of thefts in the mid south. So far our local Kubota, Deere, an Lawn Mower Shop in our county then several in surrounding counties. We lost a 1 ton Ford white 350 V10, 18' trailer and 3 zero turn PZ 3061 -Ec2761 Bush Hog mowers. They either found the hidden keys or hot wired it, hooked to a trailer it was blocking, then pushed 3 mowers to the rear on the snow/ice and used combine chaffers we had pulled for customer as loading dock ramps. They crashed the gate on the Deere lot a while back and got UTV's, and on the Kubota lot who even had the starter relays pulled, dodged the passing cars and inserted missing relay fuses and drove to a loading place. All plates were covered and they wore ski masks. They have the capability to cut cable and chain. So if some one has a deal that seems too good to be true.... ------------- When told "it's not the money,it's the principle", remember, it's always the money.. |
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Posted By: Tracy Martin TN
Date Posted: 23 Feb 2015 at 8:53am
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Tim, I hope they catch them. Hopefully some video tape will trip them up. ------------- No greater gift than healthy grandkids! |
Posted By: Butch(OH)
Date Posted: 23 Feb 2015 at 9:23am
| We had a bunch like that here a few years ago hitting everything from dealers to job sites. If they are well organised and can manage to keep their mouths shut they are hard to catch for sure. |
Posted By: tbran
Date Posted: 23 Feb 2015 at 9:30am
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Yes these operate by finding a market, then stealing what they sold, then ditching the truck. They caught one from an undercover buyer who thought when he received the stolen unit would turn up on a list, ha, it was stolen only a few hours earlier from a town 60 miles away. So far no one is talking. It is so cold in tn we can't water board anyone, is there such a thing as snowboarding???? ------------- When told "it's not the money,it's the principle", remember, it's always the money.. |
Posted By: tbran
Date Posted: 23 Feb 2015 at 9:32am
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on second thought, we could force the thief to drive either an M farmall or WC over frozen plowed ground till he breaks. Tractor boarding ? ------------- When told "it's not the money,it's the principle", remember, it's always the money.. |
Posted By: SHAMELESS
Date Posted: 23 Feb 2015 at 9:48am
| keep track of Craigs lists thru-out the whole country! we had a zero turn mower recovered in Calif. just 30 hours after being stolen in Nebr. |
Posted By: corbinstein
Date Posted: 23 Feb 2015 at 10:17am
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POst the Serial#'s here......
Also, post an ad wanting the same thing on Nashville Craigslist and see who turns up..... You might catch em.....
I might get in on that BUST myself, If i can get a few licks in...
Worthless Thieves.
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Posted By: corbinstein
Date Posted: 23 Feb 2015 at 10:19am
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SearchTempest.com will help you do a craigslist search all...
or just Google Craigslist Search Engine....
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Posted By: SmokeEater2
Date Posted: 23 Feb 2015 at 10:23am
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We had a jack wagon here that was stealing ATVs and the like and selling them on CL dirt cheap. A local cop caught him leaving a small dealership with a new in the crate 4 wheeler one night. He rammed the cop car but wound up jack knifing his trailer trying to get away. The cop put a stop to it by breaking the driver side window and sticking a Glock in his left nostril. He decided to surrender at that point.  Several people that bought stuff from him had the stolen items confiscated and are without the cash they paid too. A deal that's too good to be true can be pretty dang expensive in the long run. |
Posted By: Les Royer
Date Posted: 23 Feb 2015 at 11:29am
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Nothing I hate more than thieves. You work hard for what you have and these low lifes think they can have the stuff for free. Is that $300 worth of copper really worth years in the pen if you get caught? Mind boggling if you ask me. Get a job!
------------- I still gots my A/C but it's clear out in the barn now. |
Posted By: Dennis(IA)
Date Posted: 23 Feb 2015 at 12:23pm
| Some got caught a few years ago in Des Moines, Iowa. They stopped at a gas station at 3am with an old ratty truck, new trailer with new JD ridding mower. Guess the police were there getting coffee, and that did not look right. The trailer and mower were stolen for the JD dealer that I worked at a few minutes earlier. |
Posted By: David G.
Date Posted: 23 Feb 2015 at 12:33pm
Tim, you need a security guard. Redgy Ross might be the man for the job.
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tbran wrote:Posted By: BigMo(TX)
Date Posted: 23 Feb 2015 at 12:41pm
| We have a family friend who was a long time Deere dealer in Louisiana. A few years ago he lost a couple of brand new riding mowers that were still in crates. They apparently stole a trailer from a dealer down the road, then came and loaded up his mowers. The police told him that all his "security light" did was allow the theives to see what they were doing! |
Posted By: tbran
Date Posted: 23 Feb 2015 at 12:44pm
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thnx C - PZ3061 - sn 12-15114 and PZ3061 sn 12-15123 and EC2761 sn 12-15088. All new large Zero turn 2014-15 models. ------------- When told "it's not the money,it's the principle", remember, it's always the money.. |
Posted By: TimNearFortWorth
Date Posted: 23 Feb 2015 at 12:45pm
| Just learned from a friend near Nacadoches, TX that he went out to his country place a few weeks ago and found four B and C tractors gone. They were rough but they were his and parked next to a rent house. Advised two fellas showed up on a Sunday morning, gave their business card and told his renter that my buddy had sold them the tractors for scrap. Large truck pulled up with a mounted crane, loaded a tractor trailer flat bed that had other old tractors and was gone in less than 30 minutes. Apparently hit quite a number of places while folks were at church that day. No leads so far . . . . |
Posted By: tbran
Date Posted: 23 Feb 2015 at 12:46pm
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David G - he never stays home... ------------- When told "it's not the money,it's the principle", remember, it's always the money.. |
Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 23 Feb 2015 at 4:00pm
I'm sure we could figure something out. An old hand crank telephone magneto run thru a model coil.......... ------------- http://www.ae-ta.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.ae-ta.com Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF |
Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 23 Feb 2015 at 4:01pm
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Connected to the right places,I think a guy would talk!
------------- http://www.ae-ta.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.ae-ta.com Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF |
Posted By: JayIN
Date Posted: 23 Feb 2015 at 5:43pm
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Too bad you dont have OnStar on that F350. Maybe they could track it. ------------- sometimes I walk out to my shop and look around and think "Who's the idiot that owns this place?" |
Posted By: Lonn
Date Posted: 23 Feb 2015 at 9:11pm
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Local auto salvage yard was hit a few times last summer. Mostly taking catalytic converters so the owner and his son-in-law decided to spend the night in his tow truck in the yard with his 357, a Taurus Judge and 10 gauge. They saw the bad guys at around midnight but the bad guys didn't see them. The owner called the sheriff and told them to come up the back drive so they'd corner them. No, the deputy instead decided to use his loud speaker to call for the owner at the front gate which the two bad guys heard and started to take off. This while the owner was on the phone with 911. Owner jumped out to stop them but the 911 person told him to stop the chase. He hung up on her in mid sentence, chased them to their truck warning them that they had guns on them. The two bad guys jumped in the truck and put it in reverse to try and run the owner down so the owner........certainly didn't shoot out the tire, that would be against the law in commie minnesota but........... the tire did suddenly developed about a 3/8" hole in it with a loud bang and the bad guys found forward real fast and missed the driveway, headed out across a tall cornfield at about 60 mph in pitch darkness. They found a waterway to head down but in the dark didn't see until too late, the huge steer sized boulder the farmer pulled into the waterway last Spring. Anyway the owner was left back at the yard yet but he did here a crunch followed by an even loader crunch. When he, the SIL and the deputy got to the bad guy's truck they found skid marks up to one side of the boulder and an upside down smashed truck on the other side of the boulder, a bit of blood but no bad guys. In the end, even though they knew who's truck it was and the salvage yard owner got close enough to recognized them, the sheriff would not go the their residence to arrest them. He said that if they happened to run into them like in a traffic stop then they'd arrest them. That sheriff lost his election last fall. Salvage yard owner I know pretty well, well lets just say those guys were very lucky. He's short but wouldn't fight fair and would fight to win. He looks like a short ZZ Top band member. ------------- -- --- .... .- -- -- .- -.. / .-- .- ... / .- / -- ..- .-. -.. . .-. .. -. --. / -.-. .... .. .-.. -.. / .-. .- .--. .. ... - Wink I am a Russian Bot |
Posted By: tim 52160
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2015 at 2:22am
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I know when they stole my pickup they loosened the camper shell and would slide it back to unload and load up stoln stuff. They CS ers got my tacklebox which had stuff i had since i was a kid. this was about 6-8 years ago and i aint been fishing since. just took the heart right out of it.Lot of stuff was marked with ac orange since names and numbers get ground off.Also watch your local police auctions. Sometimes they are real handy about not notifying people that they might have recovered their stuff. They just ask me ,"Dont you have insurance?" At least they dumped a few things ddown the street and police got a print off of that. But i never heard back.Had ac parts in there ,tools my tacklebox. They left someone elses tacklebox in there and my two acetylene tanks! Was hopen they would blow up. Police found truck a few days later on the street with both sidewindows knocked out by a baseball bat.the truck was takken at daylight because i just had got home from chitown in a semi. Mom's car was stolen and police found it with someones paystub in back seat and they wouldnt arrest him! |
Posted By: SHAMELESS
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2015 at 5:00am
| laws are made for protecting the criminals! probably cuz the law makers had to protect their kids! |
Posted By: corbinstein
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2015 at 6:57am
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Whut Brand(s)??
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Posted By: corbinstein
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2015 at 7:02am
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Probably!
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Posted By: Ted J
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2015 at 9:00am
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THANKS!! Now that you have my blood pressure up again.... Really, this is NOTHING to laugh at. It seems that the criminal element has the upper hand in all of this. Even caught in the act, they get their wrist slapped and just go back into the stealin' business. NOTHING pi$$es me off more! Had some of my stuff stolen a few years back and never found. Somebody got a good backblade and some weights. Best thing to do is buy a backhoe and a shotgun and if you catch em, just put em in a DEEP HOLE. I'll keep my eyes open for cheap mowers and parts from all of the stuff. JUST amazing the cops don't do squat! ------------- "Allis-Express" 19?? WC / 1941 C / 1952 CA / 1956 WD45 / 1957 WD45 / 1958 D-17 |
Posted By: DaveKamp
Date Posted: 25 Feb 2015 at 11:56pm
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I think there's situations where the best action, is simply to apply a ventilator to the perpetrator. Y'know... it wouldn't be cruel and unusual punishment... if we did it every day. It'd just be cruel. ------------- Ten Amendments, Ten Commandments, and one Golden Rule solve most every problem. Citrus hand-cleaner with Pumice does the rest. |
Posted By: Lonn
Date Posted: 26 Feb 2015 at 5:29am
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That was funny Dave ------------- -- --- .... .- -- -- .- -.. / .-- .- ... / .- / -- ..- .-. -.. . .-. .. -. --. / -.-. .... .. .-.. -.. / .-. .- .--. .. ... - Wink I am a Russian Bot |
Posted By: studer automotive
Date Posted: 26 Feb 2015 at 6:15am
------------- a-c 185-d y/r cab turbo soon 99 f-250 7.3 4x4 86 mustang5.0 owned since 8/93 |
Posted By: Stan IL&TN
Date Posted: 26 Feb 2015 at 7:33am
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The three S rule applies here I believe. ------------- 1957 WD45 dad's first AC 1968 one-seventy 1956 F40 Ferguson |
Posted By: macec3(TX)
Date Posted: 26 Feb 2015 at 7:35am
Tim, this is too close for comfort. Only a few miles from me. WHEW..... |
Posted By: tbran
Date Posted: 26 Feb 2015 at 11:08pm
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found our truck in Olive Branch Ms - Memphis... no trailer or Bush hog Z turns.
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they have even been stealing calves... roadblocks looking for trailers, horse trailers, enclosed trailers... nothing... I was told today at a routine roadblock a big "pimp car" had an arm stick out a partially lowered window with license - the officer told him to roll the window down when he heard a MOOOOOOOO - removed back seat - cattle rustling machine.,,,
------------- When told "it's not the money,it's the principle", remember, it's always the money.. |
Posted By: Les Royer
Date Posted: 27 Feb 2015 at 7:35am
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You gotta be frickin kidding me.
------------- I still gots my A/C but it's clear out in the barn now. |
Posted By: tbran
Date Posted: 27 Feb 2015 at 11:19am
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that's right, lasso a calf, open both rear doors, pulling thru push it in slam the doors and head to the corral... John Whayne's bad guys -eat your heart out... $2000 / week profit - until you get caught, shot or calves run out.. ------------- When told "it's not the money,it's the principle", remember, it's always the money.. |
Posted By: DiyDave
Date Posted: 27 Feb 2015 at 5:56pm
You can get more in a limo, but it makes them smell like cow sh t...
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Posted By: Brian Jasper co. Ia
Date Posted: 27 Feb 2015 at 6:29pm
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There was a couple stories about that here in Iowa. One was a couple well known thieves from Davis City area. They rustled a few cattle and drove them in a stolen trailer to a sale in IL. They might have gotten away with it had they not demanded cash only. Not long after that, one of them was found beaten to death in the ditch near Davis City. As far as I know, they haven't figured out who beat the guy. The victim whose cattle were stolen was cleared of any wrong doing, however, people I know in Decatur co say they wouldn't put it past him. A couple more were recently caught near Mt Pleasant IA rustling cattle. ------------- "Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the government take care of him better take a closer look at the American Indian." Henry Ford |
Posted By: Brian Jasper co. Ia
Date Posted: 27 Feb 2015 at 6:33pm
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I know John Deere has a stolen equipment database, what about Kubota or Bush Hog? When your JD machine goes to the dealer for service, their operating system automatically cross checks your serial number on the stolen list. ------------- "Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the government take care of him better take a closer look at the American Indian." Henry Ford |
Posted By: JohnCO
Date Posted: 28 Feb 2015 at 2:15am
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A friend of mines dad used to buy caves at the livestock auction and haul one or two home in a VW squareback. He was an "unusual" guy! I heard a story of several people loosing everything from livestock to a small metal building up in Northern Colorado. It was pretty well known who was responsible. One day he just disappeared, never heard about a body being found but there are a lot of miles of nothing but pasture and dryland wheat fields. Most of the ranchers and farmers have backhoe loaders. Just sayin... ------------- "If at first you don't succeed, get a bigger hammer" Allis Express participant |
Posted By: B26240
Date Posted: 28 Feb 2015 at 6:39am
| Brian your right about the JD data base. local dealer had a zero turn mower taken from in front of the building (they cut cable tying them together) and about one year later a fella came in for parts that needed S/N to id right production group. Came up on screen as stolen, parts guy sold him the part and guy paid by check, cops went out to his place and there was the stolen zero turn. |
Posted By: Les Royer
Date Posted: 28 Feb 2015 at 7:53am
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Grandpa used to haul hay in the back of the family sedan. Same car that had to be used to go to church on Sunday morning. There wasn't such a thing as multiple vehicles back in the day. They had no choice but to make do with what they had. And could afford ------------- I still gots my A/C but it's clear out in the barn now. |
Posted By: Dusty MI
Date Posted: 28 Feb 2015 at 9:18am
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Back in the 40s dad would take deacon calfs to the stock yard in the trunk of the family car. Back then the sale was held once a week, so the calf was 1 to 6 days old. Dusty ------------- 917 H, '48 G, '65 D-10 series III "Allis Express" |
Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 28 Feb 2015 at 10:17am
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Some aren't limited in what they steal. http://kobi5.com/news/item/missing-house-in-klamath-falls.html#.VPHpPXzF_yQ" rel="nofollow - http://kobi5.com/news/item/missing-house-in-klamath-falls.html#.VPHpPXzF_yQ ------------- http://www.ae-ta.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.ae-ta.com Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF |
Posted By: j.w.freck
Date Posted: 28 Feb 2015 at 8:39pm
| SMOKEEATER,TOO BAD THAT GLOCK DID NOT HAVE A HAIR TRIGGER..... |