Deutz 385 planter
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Topic: Deutz 385 planter
Posted By: H Clark
Subject: Deutz 385 planter
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2015 at 4:39pm
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What is a Deutz 385 planter with dry fertilizer, and monitor worth? What are some things to look for. I found one but it's about 2 1/2 hours from me. ------------- 1960 D-12,1948 WC, 1973 160, 1977 175, 1984 6060 |
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Posted By: Ky.Allis
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2015 at 4:52pm
| Well I don't know squat about them but I'm sure it would help to know how big the planter is. I'd say it could be anything from 4 to 12 rows. |
Posted By: H Clark
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2015 at 4:54pm
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Sorry it is 4 rows. ------------- 1960 D-12,1948 WC, 1973 160, 1977 175, 1984 6060 |
Posted By: Jerry (Ohio)
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2015 at 5:27pm
| Had a 6 row for over 12 years. Always worked great for us |
Posted By: Joe(OH)
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2015 at 6:34pm
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I have been farming with a six row with liquid fertilizer for the past several years. They are great planters . What questions do you have? ------------- Life is simpler when you plow around the stump. |
Posted By: Daehler
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2015 at 7:00pm
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Depends on condition and row spacing and area o you are in. Poor condition were it needs a lot of work I would 500 to 1000. One the is in good condition where its been shed kept most of its life i would say 1500 to $2000. Look for wear on disc openers to see how bad the are wore and check bushings or bolts in parallel arms. ------------- 8070FWA,7080 BlackBelly, 7045,2 200s,D19,D17,G, WD,45,UC,7 AC mowers and lots more! "IT TAKES 3 JD's TO OUT DO AN ALLIS, 2 TO MATCH IT IN THE FIELD AND 1 FOR PARTS!" |
Posted By: victoryallis
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2015 at 7:11pm
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Run as fast an long as you can from it! I sidedress for a guy with one we farm side by side our Deere is more uniform. You only plant once do it right! No way to beat a finger pick up Deere. ------------- 8030 and 8050MFWD, 7580, 3 6080's, 160, 7060, 175, heirloom D17, Deere 8760 |
Posted By: Joe(OH)
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2015 at 7:28pm
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Victory, sounds like you should take Allis out of your name. If your neighbor isn't smart enough to replace worn seed pads or pick the correct plates, I could see where there would be an issue. With good pads and proper plates I will gladly plant against any 7000, for conventional or no-till.
------------- Life is simpler when you plow around the stump. |
Posted By: H Clark
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2015 at 7:57pm
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Thanks for the replies. I'm not going to plant alot of corn maybe 5 to 10 acres but with my limited time would like a four row planter. Can't seem to find any for sale locally not alot of people raise corn near me. They are wanting $2500.oo for it. ------------- 1960 D-12,1948 WC, 1973 160, 1977 175, 1984 6060 |
Posted By: victoryallis
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2015 at 8:37pm
Here 95% of planters are Deere doesn't matter if the rest of the farm has orange, red, blue, or green tractor pulling it. We got the Deeres to put down a perfect picket fence stand time after time not to mention you drop in Kinze brush meters and have picket fence bean stands without changing population because of seed size. Parts for Deere are available aftermarket through a lot of sources. I don't play the one brand fits all game at all Allis had great tractors and combines Deere dominates with planters and drills. I buy based on performance not paint color. ------------- 8030 and 8050MFWD, 7580, 3 6080's, 160, 7060, 175, heirloom D17, Deere 8760 |
Joe(OH) wrote:Posted By: JimIA
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2015 at 10:08pm
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Joe is correct. If you do not have the correct seed plate or seed selected you will have a very inconsistent seed placement. Like anything a poorly maintained machine will not work worth a darn. In their time the 385 was a top notch planter. My only complaint is the A-C fertilizer augers, not sure what they were thinking with those. We used one until three years ago where we switched to a 5100 White. My main reason for doing so was parts availability. Parts for the 385s are getting scarce and some are becoming NLA. You also have to get parts from Landoll for the 385. With the White you get a very similar planter and in my case parts are in good supply not only at the dealership I work at but also at several other dealers in the area. Jim ------------- An open eye is much more observant than an open mouth |
Posted By: JohnCO
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2015 at 12:06am
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Just to start a fight, I'd take a Great Plains drill for grain or soybeans any day over a JD. I've had both and GP's are a better unit, hands down. Sorry, don't know anything about the 385 planter. I do have a JD 7000 6 row corn planter, works pretty good, isn't perfect.
------------- "If at first you don't succeed, get a bigger hammer" Allis Express participant |
Posted By: matador
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2015 at 12:14am
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We have a 7000 that we modified to be plateless. It works nicely. I've heard that parts on the Deutz Allis planters are hard to find, but we've never owned one. I've heard rave reviews on the White planters if there are any near you. And, of course, there's the John Deere 7000. That's always a safe bet. The parts on the Deutz will be a huge factor. Hoe close to a dealer are you? |
Posted By: SHAMELESS
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2015 at 12:25am
| a consignment sale near me this week has a DA385 6 row narrow and 2 white 8 rows on the sale, one white narrow and one wide. see pics of all of them at: leevalley.net |
Posted By: orangereborn
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2015 at 12:55pm
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If you are looking for a good planter at a good price that will be one of the best trips you will ever make. I had a 4R wide and a 6R split. Got a 6R narrow now and if I can find an affordable 8x20 head for the Gleaner will convert the planter to 8x20. Have no idea how many 1xxx acres of corn and beans it has planted. Kept the split for parts and a buyer came from Canada for the 4r wide. Shoup has many parts that fit. Many form members can tell you what interchanges. Grease the wheels and pull it home. Or pull it across a car hauler, remove the hitch and go...Dale Orangereborn 964 192nd Ave New Richmond, WI 54017 715-247-3079 715-781-2055 mailto:Orangereborn@hotmail.com" rel="nofollow - |
Posted By: michaelwis
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2015 at 1:54pm
shamless.you goin..? always up for a good road trip... ------------- WD WD45 DIESEL D 14 D-15 SERIES 2 190XT TERRA TIGER ac allcrop 60 GLEANER F 6060 7040.and attachments for all Proud to be an active farmer |
Posted By: michaelwis
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2015 at 1:55pm
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Maybe Jason from near Madison will be goin..... ------------- WD WD45 DIESEL D 14 D-15 SERIES 2 190XT TERRA TIGER ac allcrop 60 GLEANER F 6060 7040.and attachments for all Proud to be an active farmer |
Posted By: GM Guy
Date Posted: 22 Feb 2015 at 6:31pm
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I dont believe in all one brand either, that is why our corn is planted with a White. :) perfectly maintained, I am sure a finger pickup deere does good, probably great, but a JD vac planter versus a White pressure planter, the White takes the cake. Plus, what does it cost to maintain the finger pickup on a yearly basis? the White air planter sure doesnt take much. Our neighbor in Idaho is die hard john deere, but he runs a white planter. To answer the Original Poster's question, for no more than you are doing, the 385 would work great, and I am sure that there is plenty of folks on this forum that will keep you rolling and accurate. ------------- Gleaner: the properly engineered and built combine. If you need parts for your Gleaner, we are parting out A's through L2's, so we may be able to help. |
Posted By: SHAMELESS
Date Posted: 22 Feb 2015 at 6:53pm
| when the Duetz planter first came out and had been out for a couple years...I was talking to a die hard jd dude one day. he was gonna have to go buy a new planter and was looking at a 12 row to buy...we talked about the Duetz...he decided to try one and by golly he bought a new one! guess it must have done him good as he then tried a new Gleaner that fall...just to see...and by golly...he bought a new Gleaner and replaced his 1 year old jd combine! he's still running Gleaners to this day and he has replaced the duetz with a White planter! still running jd tractors...but he has seen the light that other companies do exist with better equipment! |
Posted By: SHAMELESS
Date Posted: 22 Feb 2015 at 6:57pm
| I didn't go to the sale...wanted to...but it was to cold...and my golf cart wasn't running yet! I just can't walk or stand very long anymore due to my back! really *UCKS! |
Posted By: Dipstick In
Date Posted: 22 Feb 2015 at 7:29pm
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I'm in the same exact boat, Shameless! 10 minutes standing is gonna hurt all day tomorrow! ------------- You don't really have to be smart if you know who is! |
Posted By: victoryallis
Date Posted: 22 Feb 2015 at 9:07pm
If everyone on this site practiced what you said we wouldn't have this conversation. Seems on here folks see the Allis and think it's good. Every manufacture has strong points and week points. Deere has dominated planting equipment for the last 40 years. I like my Allis tractors and Gleaners but sorry we used a Allis planter and never again. Unless it's a monosem in veggies nothing built in the last 40 years will out plant a Deere. ------------- 8030 and 8050MFWD, 7580, 3 6080's, 160, 7060, 175, heirloom D17, Deere 8760 |
Posted By: matador
Date Posted: 22 Feb 2015 at 9:25pm
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When we went to buy our White tractor, my father was really skeptical. To him, there was John Deere, and then everybody else was bringing up the rear. I can't speak for corn planters much, but with every other category, it seems that there is somebody who does it better than Deere does. It won't break my heart when we're Deere-free on our farm. Once you get the blinders off and start seeing all colors, you find that there's some pretty good stuff out there! |
Posted By: DanWi
Date Posted: 22 Feb 2015 at 9:47pm
| Neighbor had a jd 7200 he was happy when it left his farm and he replaced it with a kinze. |
Posted By: Alex (wi)
Date Posted: 18 May 2015 at 11:58am
| anybody know where to get plates for these? Sounds like Landoll does not have much for them anymore either... |
Posted By: MACK
Date Posted: 18 May 2015 at 10:23pm
| I have some extra bean plates. MACK |
Posted By: SHAMELESS
Date Posted: 18 May 2015 at 11:22pm
| thru the years I've planted with deere, kinze, oliver, ac, ih, buffalo, and out of all of them, the ac did the best job and still does! yeah...it's old, but still does a great job of uniform planting! and that's all that's needed! |
Posted By: H Clark
Date Posted: 19 May 2015 at 1:53am
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I have seen plates on ebay. ------------- 1960 D-12,1948 WC, 1973 160, 1977 175, 1984 6060 |
Posted By: JET8070
Date Posted: 19 May 2015 at 6:11am
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Posted By: H Clark
Date Posted: 19 May 2015 at 7:04am
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I already bought the planter a while back. I got it for 1900.00 I feel like it was a good buy. I planted about 6 acres with it last week and it operated flawlessly. If I was planting lots of acres I might consider another planter but most of you guys will plant more corn in a year than I will in ten. If parts availability or lack thereof scared me I wouldn't be on this forum and probably wouldn't be able to replace the quantity of equipment that I have acquired. Not all of my equipment is orange but none of it is new but being a heavy equipment mechanic by trade I have the ability to keep it running as long as the money holds out. Lol ------------- 1960 D-12,1948 WC, 1973 160, 1977 175, 1984 6060 |
Posted By: Peterson
Date Posted: 19 May 2015 at 7:07am
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Not to stir the pot, but clearly you guys have not planted with a John Deere or Kinze with Precision meters in it. How many of you guys can say you can see even rows cross ways? We can with our Kinze with the precision meters. ------------- 7095-685I at 255hp, 8070-225HP,8050-210Hp,8030 with 155HP,220 with 670T engine with A-pump, 7580, 185 with 140HP, 2-6080's,6070, S4 D17,wd45,CA,st34 agco, S1 D17 with 3500MK2 |
Posted By: GM Guy
Date Posted: 31 May 2015 at 3:39am
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Peterson, I have seen cross rows in a white planted field before, as well as a field planted with a deere loaded with precision planting gear. not too many Kinze's in our area to compare, but as long as you leave out the new 4900, many speak highly of Kinze. IMO a bone stock white versus a deere with thousands of dollars in aftermarket gear, I think the white is the smarter choice, unless a guys dealer just plain flat sucks and the owner doesnt like keeping spare parts. ------------- Gleaner: the properly engineered and built combine. If you need parts for your Gleaner, we are parting out A's through L2's, so we may be able to help. |
Posted By: Jwmac7060
Date Posted: 31 May 2015 at 8:00am
| We always ran Deere planters and finally switched to a Kinze with interplant. Love the Kinze vs the Deere. My Uncle ran a Deutz 385 for many years and had lots of luck with it. I'm sure any planter is good if you properly maintain it. |