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Gun owners could face a massive $34 billion tax burden if Democratic candidate Joe Biden’s proposed gun control plan takes effect, according to the Washington Free Beacon.

Biden’s plan would tax sporting rifles and ammunition magazines over a certain capacity in order to reduce access to both.

That means an estimated 20 million assault-style rifles and 150 million ammunition magazines would be taxed under Biden’s plan.

His campaign has not specifically said how much each would be taxed, but his website proposes “regulating possession of existing assault weapons under the National Firearms Act,” which includes a $200 tax.

“Individuals who now possess assault weapons or high-capacity magazines have two options: Sell the weapons to the government, or register them under the National Firearms Act,” Biden’s plan states.


 
In other words, gun owners who choose to keep their firearms will be forced to register them and pay the $200 tax.

This could raise close to $34 billion in tax revenue.

NSSF spokesman Mark Oliva said the sheer number of affected gun owners should give Biden’s team pause.

“I think if [Biden and his team] were smart, they would look at those numbers and get an idea of where America stands on gun ownership and gun rights,” he said.

Moreover, support for gun control is the lowest it has been since 2016, according to a recent survey.


 
Even among Democrats, support for gun control has dropped.

Now, 85% of Democrats support stricter gun laws, which is the lowest for the group in the past two decades, and a 14-point drop from last year.

Only 22% of Republicans support strict gun laws, and 60% of independents agreed.

“In a year that has seen record-high gun sales, Americans’ appetite for gun control is the lowest it has been since 2016, before mass shootings in Las Vegas, Nev. and Parkland, Fla.,” Gallup reported.
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No registration system is Legal under Federal Firearms Laws that according to SCOTUS Years ago, so how will the Demons know where to find what does not exist?  They can ask, but who will tell them anything?  Do not "Have To" so they can write a tax burden law, and have NO Way to implement or effectively apply.

Back to 'What Guns are you speaking of, Sold them AGES Ago what was not lost in the Seaplane accident on the lake'.


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YEP... that would work as well as passing a law saying TUR'DS have to use LOGIC and REASON before they open their mouth !!!  LOL   Clap
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That aspect is No Doubt.
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This is just reasonable, common sense gun law proposals. Just ask Troller, dorf, n Wind'r Lick'r.   
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I no longer own such guns. I sold all mine for $200 cash at a garage sale to a handsome young man named Jamal.....who said he was a gun collector from Chicago. They should look for them there.
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Originally posted by modirt modirt wrote:

I no longer own such guns. I sold all mine for $200 cash at a garage sale to a handsome young man named Jamal.....who said he was a gun collector from Chicago. They should look for them there.
I'll second that new epiphany, cept mine went to a guy named Leroy, a collector from the south side of chitcago.
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BUT BUT BUT  Biden said no new taxes on people making less than $400,000 a year, so I don't have to worry about paying this tax only you rich guys. Wink
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It was Dems that informed the Public that taxing the "Cadillac" Health Care in the US would pay for ACA, that FAILED Miserably as well DESTROYED those Great plans many once had so NOW Everyone is on equal footing CRAPPY Health Care.  Then the Cigarette Tobacco Taxes, Going to Net $BILLIONS$ to gadzillions only people STOPPED using and the market values declined, taxes DECLINED Not Increased, so another LIE from the Libretards.  How is/will this be any different?  Firearms will just Cease to exist around the STates, cannot find what is not prevalent to confiscate or destroy and only when the People have had enough will they show back up, when the Socialist Liberals have poor access of their own and Cannot stop the Rebellion to restore the US to what it had been intended as.

Guess the Libretards could Squeal to NATO and UN to come save their sorry butts yet who out there wants to fight a unended battle from Every Blade of Grass? Courtesy Isoroku Yamamoto:

"to invade the United States would prove most difficult because behind every blade of grass is an American with a rifle."
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Missouri alone sells over 500,000 firearms deer permits each year, with harvest around 150,000 deer.

That would mean Missouri alone has enough armed and proficient weapons owners to make it one of the largest standing armies in the world. That is just MO. Throw in the rest of the country and number goes up into tens of millions.

They all get pissed at the same time, those opposed to them are in big trouble.
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What the Left never seem to Figure out is Sales Taxes from Weaponry Hunting Gear and Misc. as Foods and Prep Materials pay bills, Sales Taxes on Munitions pay bills,  These ALSO EMPLOY THOUSANDS that Pay Income Taxes in Corporations That pay taxes that Pay the bills.  Sales of HUNTING Permits PAYS for the COLLOSAL Conservation System across the ENTIRE US. 

So where will ALL Those Funds come from, the Fed?  Try again as The Fed HAS NO MONEY Except those dollars receipts from TAXES.  TRY to tax or pressure Firearms Controls and it ALL Comes to a Screeching Halt, as with Tobacco or Luxury Taxes, the Luxury Items stop selling, try to tax firearms Owners and receive NADA as they are ALL GONE.
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Yamamoto never said what you claim:

https://www.factcheck.org/2009/05/misquoting-yamamoto/
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NO... they have no RECORD of him saying that, so you can NOT PROVE HE SAID IT..

That also means YOU CAN NOT PROVE HE DID NOT SAY IT.... Just because there is no RECORD , does not mean it didnt happen.


and if thats all you got out of this conversation, we feel SORRY for you..


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Originally posted by Tranny Tranny wrote:

Yamamoto never said what you claim:

https://www.factcheck.org/2009/05/misquoting-yamamoto/

I have never seen fartcheck checked for accuracy, either.  just another arm of the lame stream media twisting anything that disagrees with their narrative...Wink
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Originally posted by TramwayGuy TramwayGuy wrote:

Yamamoto never said what you claim:

https://www.factcheck.org/2009/05/misquoting-yamamoto/
Who cares, none of us were there but you just cling to that so to avoid the topic. The topic ain't about what Yamamoto said.... so do you care to address the topic?
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Will someone post what Biden said about this please? In his words not the sleaze report.
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I've seen & heard several of Bidens view on guns,can I quote word for word? No I can't but it left no doubt in my mind what his plan is, and what you lefties all seemed to over look is you didn't vote for Biden you voted for Harris and she certainly leaves no doubt,why would it matter anyway you'll still be screaming all your liberal/marxists BS even when Harrises ATF has you laying face down in you yard while they tear apart your house looking for that little rim fire that are just sure you have in there.
Wait wait,I already know what your gona say,, they aren't looking for a 22 rim fire they are looking for AR-15s.
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re: they aren't looking for a 22 rim fire they are looking for AR-15s.

noo... the grab your AR-15s THEN 'after carful study and consultation' decide that 22s are 'bad' as well, poof, before the ink is dry the guv HAS your guns....ALL your guns.. well at least those they know about....

the 'slippery slope' is grease with 'best intentions'....
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NO I voted for Biden, And every election I hear they are coming for your guns, I'm soon to be 70 years old and have NEVER lost the right to own a gun, And it will NOT happen this time either, Just more fear from the right.
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Originally posted by DMiller DMiller wrote:

What the Left never seem to Figure out is Sales Taxes from Weaponry Hunting Gear and Misc. as Foods and Prep Materials pay bills, Sales Taxes on Munitions pay bills,  These ALSO EMPLOY THOUSANDS that Pay Income Taxes in Corporations That pay taxes that Pay the bills.  Sales of HUNTING Permits PAYS for the COLLOSAL Conservation System across the ENTIRE US. 

So where will ALL Those Funds come from, the Fed?  Try again as The Fed HAS NO MONEY Except those dollars receipts from TAXES.  TRY to tax or pressure Firearms Controls and it ALL Comes to a Screeching Halt, as with Tobacco or Luxury Taxes, the Luxury Items stop selling, try to tax firearms Owners and receive NADA as they are ALL GONE.



Maybe, just maybe that’s part of the reason Democrats have never outlawed firearms or hunting. It’s a Second Amendment right. Every time a Democrat is elected it’s the same old story, they’re going to take my guns! Never happens. Same thing occurs with ammo shortages.

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Well you are 2 years older than me,but apparently you don't remember the Clinton gun & high capacity magazine ban. Or maybe because you didn't have any firearms on their list it didn't matter to you. That would be my guess, And stevie old boy you can say you voted for Biden but the reality of it is yes you voted for Harris..
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Originally posted by Steve Bright Steve Bright wrote:

NO I voted for Biden, And every election I hear they are coming for your guns, I'm soon to be 70 years old and have NEVER lost the right to own a gun, And it will NOT happen this time either, Just more fear from the right.


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1837

Georgia passes a law banning handguns. The law is ruled unconstitutional by the U.S. Supreme Court and is thrown out.

1865

In a reaction to emancipation, several southern states adopt "black codes" which, among other things, forbid black persons from possessing firearms.

1871

The National Rifle Association (NRA) is organized around its primary goal of improving American civilians' marksmanship in preparation for war.

1927

The U.S. Congress passes a law banning the mailing of concealable weapons.

1934

The National Firearms Act of 1934, regulating the manufacture, sale, and possession of fully automatic firearms like sub-machine guns is approved by Congress.

1938

The Federal Firearms Act of 1938 places the first limitations on selling ordinary firearms. Persons selling guns are required to obtain a Federal Firearms License, at an annual cost of $1, and to maintain records of the name and address of persons to whom firearms are sold. Gun sales to persons convicted of violent felonies were prohibited.

1968

The Gun Control Act of 1968 is enacted for the purpose of “keeping firearms out of the hands of those not legally entitled to possess them because of age, criminal background, or incompetence.”

The act regulates imported guns, expands the gun-dealer licensing and record-keeping requirements, and places specific limitations on the sale of handguns. The list of persons banned from buying guns is expanded to include persons convicted of any non-business related felony, persons found to be mentally incompetent, and users of illegal drugs.

1972

The federal Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco and Firearms (ATF) is created, listing as part of its mission the control of illegal use and sale of firearms and the enforcement of Federal firearms laws. The ATF issues firearms licenses and conducts firearms licensee qualification and compliance inspections.

1977

The District of Columbia enacts an anti-handgun law which also requires registration of all rifles and shotguns within the District of Columbia.

1986

The Armed Career Criminal Act increases penalties for possession of firearms by persons not qualified to own them under the Gun Control Act of 1986.

The Firearms Owners Protection Act (Public Law 99-308) relaxes some restrictions on gun and ammunition sales and establishes mandatory penalties for use of firearms during the commission of a crime.

The Law Enforcement Officers Protection Act (Public Law 99-408) bans possession of "cop killer" bullets capable of penetrating bulletproof clothing.

1988

President Ronald Reagan signs the Undetectable Firearms Act of 1988, making it illegal to manufacture, import, sell, ship, deliver, possess, transfer, or receive any firearm that is not detectable by walk-through metal detectors. The law prohibited guns from not containing enough metal to trigger security screening machines found in airports, courthouses and other secure areas accessible to the public.

1989

California bans the possession of semiautomatic assault weapons following the massacre of five children on a Stockton, Calif., school playground.

1990

The Crime Control Act of 1990 (Public Law 101-647) bans the manufacturing and importing semiautomatic assault weapons in the United States. "Gun-free school zones" are established, carrying specific penalties for violations.

1994

The Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act imposes a five-day waiting period on the purchase of a handgun and requires that local law enforcement agencies conduct background checks on purchasers of handguns.

The Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994 prohibits the sale, manufacture, importation, or possession of several specific types of assault-type weapons for a 10-year period. However, the law expires on September 13, 2004, after Congress fails to reauthorize it.

1997

The U.S. Supreme Court, in the case of Printz v. United States, declares the background check requirement of the Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act unconstitutional.

The Florida Supreme Court upholds a jury's $11.5 million verdict against Kmart for selling a gun to an intoxicated man who used the gun to shoot his estranged girlfriend.

Major American gun manufacturers voluntarily agree to include child safety trigger devices on all new handguns.

June 1998

A Justice Department report indicates the blocking of some 69,000 handgun sales during 1997 when the Brady Bill pre-sale background checks were required.

July 1998

An amendment requiring a trigger lock mechanism to be included with every handgun sold in the United States is defeated in the Senate.

But the Senate approves an amendment requiring gun dealers to have trigger locks available for sale and creating federal grants for gun safety and education programs.

October 1998

New Orleans becomes the first U.S. city to file suit against gunmakers, firearms trade associations, and gun dealers. The city's suit seeks recovery of costs attributed to gun-related violence.

Nov. 12, 1998

Chicago files a $433 million suit against local gun dealers and makers alleging that oversupplying local markets provided guns to criminals.

Nov. 17, 1998

A negligence suit against gunmaker Beretta brought by the family of a 14-year-old boy killed by another boy with a Beretta handgun is dismissed by a California jury.

Nov. 30, 1998

Permanent provisions of the Brady Act go into effect. Gun dealers are now required to initiate a pre-sale criminal background check of all gun buyers through the newly created National Instant Criminal Background Check (NICS) computer system.

Dec. 1, 1998

The NRA files suit in federal court attempting to block the FBI's collection of information on firearm buyers.

Dec. 5, 1998

President Bill Clinton announces that the instant background check system had prevented 400,000 illegal gun purchases. The claim was called "misleading" by the NRA.

January 1999

Civil suits against gunmakers seeking to recover costs of gun-related violence were filed in Bridgeport, Conn., and Miami-Dade County, Fla.

April 20, 1999

At Columbine High School near Denver, students Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold shoot and kill 12 other students and a teacher, and wound 24 others before killing themselves. The attack renews debate on the need for more restrictive gun control laws.

May 20, 1999

By a 51-50 vote, with the tie-breaker vote cast by Vice President Al Gore, the U.S. Senate passes a bill requiring trigger locks on all newly manufactured handguns and extending waiting period and background check requirements to sales of firearms at gun shows.

Aug. 24, 1999

The Los Angeles County, Calif., Board of Supervisors votes 3-2 to ban the Great Western Gun Show, billed as the "World's Largest Gun Show" from the Pomona fairgrounds where it had been held for the last 30 years.

Sept. 13, 2004

After lengthy and heated debate, Congress allows the 10-year-old Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994 banning the sale of 19 types of military-style assault weapons to expire.

December 2004

Congress fails to continue funding for President George W. Bush’s 2001 gun control program, Project Safe Neighborhoods.

Massachusetts becomes the first state to implement an electronic instant gun buyer background check system with fingerprint scanning for gun licenses and gun purchases.

January 2005

California bans the manufacture, sale, distribution or import of the powerful .50-caliber BMG, or Browning machine gun rifle.

October 2005

President Bush signs the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act limiting the ability of victims of crimes in which guns were used to sue firearms manufacturers and dealers. The law includes an amendment requiring all new guns to come with trigger locks.

January 2008

In a move supported by both opponents and advocates of gun control laws, President Bush signs the National Instant Criminal Background Check Improvement Act requiring gun-buyer background checks to screen for legally declared mentally ill individuals, who are ineligible to buy firearms.

June 26, 2008

In its landmark decision in the case of District of Columbia v. Heller, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that the Second Amendment affirmed the rights of individuals to own firearms. The ruling also overturns a 32-year-old ban on the sale or possession of handguns in the District of Columbia.

February 2010

A federal law signed by President Barack Obama took effect allowing licensed gun owners to bring firearms into national parks and wildlife refuges as long as they are allowed by state law.

Dec. 9, 2013

The Undetectable Firearms Act of 1988, requiring that all guns must contain enough metal to be detectable by security screening machines was extended through 2035.

July 29, 2015

In an effort to close the so-called “gun show loophole” allowing gun sales conducted without Brady Act background checks, U.S. Rep. Jackie Speier (D-Calif.) introduces the Fix Gun Checks Act of 2015 (H.R. 3411), to require background checks for all gun sales, including sales made over the internet and at gun shows.

June 12, 2016

President Obama again calls on Congress to enact or renew a law prohibiting the sale and possession of assault-style weapons and high-capacity ammunition magazines after a man identified as Omar Mateen kills 49 people in an Orlando, Fla., gay nightclub on June 12, using an AR-15 semiautomatic rifle. In a call to 9-1-1 he made during the attack, Mateen told police he had pledged his allegiance to the radical Islamic terrorist group ISIS.

September 2017

A bill titled “Sportsmen Heritage and Recreational Enhancement Act,” or SHARE Act (H.R. 2406) advances to the floor of the U.S. House of Representatives. While the main purpose of the bill is to expand access to public land for, hunting, fishing, and recreational shooting, a provision added by Rep. Jeff Duncan (R-S.C.) called The Hearing Protection Act would reduce the current federal restrictions on purchasing firearm silencers, or suppressors.

Currently, the restrictions on silencer purchases are similar to those for machine guns, including extensive background checks, waiting periods, and transfer taxes. Duncan’s provision would eliminate those restrictions.

Backers of Duncan’s provision argue that it would help recreational hunters and shooters protect themselves from hearing loss. Opponents say it would make it harder for police and civilians to locate the source of gunfire, potentially resulting in more casualties.

Witnesses to the deadly mass shooting in Las Vegas on Oct. 1, 2017, reported that the gunfire coming from the 32nd floor of the Mandalay Resort sounded like “popping” that was at first mistaken as fireworks. Many argue that the inability to hear the gunshots made the shooting even more deadly.

Oct. 1, 2017

Barely over a year after the Orlando shooting, a man identified as Stephen Craig Paddock opens fire on an outdoor music festival in Las Vegas. Shooting from the 32nd floor of the Mandalay Bay hotel, Paddock kills at least 59 people and wounds more than 500 others. 

Among the at least 23 firearms found in Paddock’s room were legally-purchased, semi-automatic AR-15 rifles which had been fitted with commercially-available accessories known as “bump stocks,” which allow semi-automatic rifles to be fired as if in fully-automatic mode of up to nine rounds per second. Under a law enacted in 2010, bump stocks are treated as legal, after-market accessories.

In the aftermath of the incident, lawmakers on both sides of the aisle have called for laws specifically banning bump stocks, while others have also called for a renewal of the assault weapons ban.

Oct. 4, 2017

Less than a week after the Las Vegas shooting, U.S. Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) introduces the “Automatic Gunfire Prevention Act” that would ban the sale and possession of bump stocks and other devices that allow a semiautomatic weapon to fire like a fully-automatic weapon.

The bill states:

“It shall be unlawful for any person to import, sell, manufacture, transfer or possess, in or affecting interstate or foreign commerce, a trigger crank, a bump-fire device or any part, combination of parts, component, device, attachment or accessory that is designed or functions to accelerate the rate of fire of a semiautomatic rifle but not convert the semiautomatic rifle into a machine gun.”

Oct. 5, 2017

Sen. Feinstein introduces the Background Check Completion Act. Feinstein says the bill would close a loophole in the Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act.

Feinstein said:

“Current law allows gun sales to proceed after 72 hours—even if background checks aren’t approved. This is a dangerous loophole that could allow criminals and those with mental illness to complete their purchase of firearms even though it would be unlawful for them to possess them.”

The Background Check Completion Act would require that a background check be fully completed before any gun buyer who purchases a gun from a federally-licensed firearms dealer (FFL) can take possession of the gun.

Feb. 21, 2018

Just days after the February 14, 2018, mass shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Florida, President Donald Trump orders the Justice Department and Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms to review "bump fire stocks"—devices that allow a semi-automatic rifle to be fired similarly to a fully-automatic weapon.

Trump had previously indicated that he might support a new federal regulation banning the sale of such devices. 

White House press secretary Sarah Sanders told reporters:

“The President, when it comes to that, is committed to ensuring that those devices are—again, I'm not going to get ahead of the announcement, but I can tell you that the president doesn't support use of those accessories.”

On February 20, Sanders stated that the president would support “steps” to raise the current minimum age for buying military-style weapons, such as the AR-15—the weapon used in the Parkland shooting—from 18 to 21.

“I think that's certainly something that's on the table for us to discuss and that we expect to come up over the next couple of weeks,” Sanders said. 

July 31, 2018

U.S. District Judge Robert Lasnik in Seattle issued a temporary restraining blocking the release of blueprints that could be used to produce untraceable and undetectable 3D-printable plastic guns.

Assembled from ABS plastic parts, 3D guns are firearms that can be made with a computer-controlled 3D printer. The judge acted partly in response to a lawsuit filed against the federal government by several states to block the release of blueprints for 3D-printed plastic guns.

Judge Lasnik’s order banned the Austin, Texas-based gun-rights group Defense Distributed from allowing the public to download the blueprints from its website.

“There is a possibility of irreparable harm because of the way these guns can be made,” Lasnik wrote.

Before the restraining order, plans for assembling a variety of guns, including an AR-15-style rifle and a Beretta M9 handgun could be downloaded from the Defense Distributed website.

Shortly after the restraining order was issued, President Donald Trump (@realDonaldTrump) tweeted, “I am looking into 3-D Plastic Guns being sold to the public. Already spoke to NRA, doesn’t seem to make much sense!”

The NRA said in a statement that "anti-gun politicians" and certain members of the press had wrongly claimed that 3D printing technology "will allow for the production and widespread proliferation of undetectable plastic firearms."

August 2019

In the wake of three mass shootings in Gilroy, Calif.; El Paso, Texas; and Dayton, Ohio in the span of two weeks that left a total of almost three dozen people dead, a new push was made in Congress for gun control measures. Among the proposals were stronger background checks and limits on high-capacity magazines. "Red flag" laws also were proposed to allow police or family members to file a court petition to remove firearms from individuals who might pose a danger to themselves or others.

August 9, 2019

President Donald Trump indicated he would support new legislation requiring “common-sense” background checks for gun purchases. “On background checks, we have tremendous support for really common-sense, sensible, important background checks,” Trump told reporters at the White House. Noting that he had spoken to National Rifle Association CEO Wayne LaPierre, the president said the issue “isn't a question of NRA, Republican or Democrat. We will see where the NRA will be, but we need meaningful background checks.”

The House of Representatives had previously passed the Bipartisan Background Checks Act of 2019, which would ban most person-to-person firearm transfers without a background check, including firearm transfers at gun shows and between individuals. The bill passed 240-190, with eight Republicans joining almost all Democrats in voting for the bill. As of September 1, 2019, the Senate had taken no action on the bill.

August 12, 2019

President Trump voiced his support for red flag gun confiscation laws. “We must make sure that those judged to pose a grave risk to public safety do not have access to firearms and that if they do, those firearms can be taken through rapid due process," he said in televised remarks from the White House. “That is why I have called for red flag laws, also known as extreme risk protection orders.”

August 20, 2019

After speaking with NRA Chief Executive Wayne LaPierre, President Trump seemed to back away from supporting expanded background checks for firearm purchases. “We have very strong background checks right now,” he said, speaking from the Oval Office. “And I have to tell you that it is a mental problem. And I've said it a hundred times it's not the gun that pulls the trigger, it's the people.” Trump also stressed his support for the Second Amendment, stating that he would not want to go down the “slippery slope” of infringing on the right to bear arms.

January 20, 2020

Rep. Hank Johnson, a Georgia Democrat who sits on the House Judiciary Committee, on Jan. 30 introduced H.R. 5717, which would, among other items, ban the purchasing and possession of assault weapons. Sen. Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass., introduced in February the Senate version of the bill, S.3254.

"The Gun Violence Prevention and Community Safety Act will save lives and make our country safer – without infringing on any law-abiding individual’s right to own firearms," Johnson said in a news release issued as the bill was filed.

The legislation introduced a variety of reforms with the intent to "end the epidemic of gun violence and build safer communities by strengthening Federal firearms laws and supporting gun violence research, intervention, and prevention initiatives."

The bill addresses background checks, taxes on firearms and goods related to firearms, gun storage, accessibility of guns on school campuses, and more.

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Tom C, Does that mean you Voted for Pence and NOT FOR Trump?
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In fact I did look at both of them Trump & Pence and I didn't have much doubt Trump was and is healthy enough to make it. Joe Biden is not,they ( Democrats) have had this planned from the get go,and myself feel if an individual doesn't have enough grey matter to see it they probably shouldn't be voting.
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"Tom C, Does that mean you Voted for Pence and NOT FOR Trump? "

Stupid is as stupid thinks as stupid does.

Trump isn't blathering incoherent things like dementia bite-you is... thus Pence will remain VP until he is out of office... where as... the writing is on the wall and seen across the world of how incompetent your old sleaze bag really is... and he won't be in there for even a year is the bet... so HENCE you voted for the KAMELTOE.
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To quote Dickens or Spock.....take your pick....."The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few......(or the one)".

To paraphrase......"the 2nd amendment gun rights of the many, outweigh the rights of the few, or the one".

Direction this is headed is in the opposite direction. To protect a very few people adversely affected by guns, it seems the political response is to take rights away from the many......despite the fact that "the many" are not the problem. The problem arises from a few.......and that "few" is a very small tiny percentage of troublemakers that nobody would miss if they were to disappear from the face of the earth.

Think Chicago on a Sat**day night. Another 6 just this past weekend. Despite being illegal, those guys still have guns (sorry, I should have realized that Chicago gun collector I sold to was probably not legit....my bad). So what happens when they are caught? Nothing. Go to prison? Maybe. For how long? Days? Weeks? How many previously convicted felons doing the shooting? Most likely all of them. For those guys, a more effective gun control measure to end the violence would be to put those shooters in a dumpster so they get sent to a landfill. Start doing that and watch the gun violence drop to nothing.

Unless simply ending gun violence is not the objective. If the objective is the same one Fidel Castro had, then this gonna get ugly in a hurry.


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I didn't see one law proposed and/or passed that actually prevents a 'criminal' from getting any kind of  gun and KILLING anyone.
Even IF you could repeal/delete the' 2nd 'AND confiscate every LEGALLY bought/owned gun, the CRIMINALS would still have THEIR arsenal of guns and kill.
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