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D12 #2 hyd cyl. packing w/gland nut

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    Posted: 07 Nov 2020 at 5:04pm
I have searched, with no luck, packing for hyd. cyl. Has gland nut , part #0230944-1. Is it still available or am I out of luck ? Thanks for any info
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10 years ago i bought a CHEVRON VEE packing set from these guys... You just need to know the ID, OD and how many rings you want.......... dont know about the nut.



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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Burl Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 Nov 2020 at 5:30pm
Thanks Steve but , I think this is just a single web packing under nut . Did not want to take it apart till I have replacement part. Prob have to take it apart and take a look .
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Jim.ME Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 Nov 2020 at 7:02pm
Sure looks like a chevron packing stack in the on line parts book.
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You guys are prob right . Will get gland nut off and take a look , Thanks !
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If its the old single acting rear lift cylinder, i think they were all chevron... If your talking about a loader or boom cylinder, thats different.
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Thanks much ! I would think that part # would pop up something on ebay ???
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I just replaced the packing on both D12 lift cylinders yesterday
Chevron Style

Part # 70230944



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I used a long wood screw to screw into the old packing to pull it out. Take care not to bugger up the cylinder. Although mine are pitted pretty bad.


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Charlie to the rescue !!... I looked all over You Tube and could not find a decent clip on replacing  VEE packing in a single acting cylinder... You need a JOB  Charlie ? Wink
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Got lucky since I just did this. The packing is expensive at $87 per side.
I need to do this on my D10 also. 
Both sides the packing looked like it was not put in correctly. I assume this is a source of water infiltration for tractors left outside.

 
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Can you measure the OD and ID and get a GENERIC set of VEE rings ? I did that on a couple B tractors several years ago ...Dont know about the price. Since you gave the PN, i assume you bought from dealer.

looks like in general each ring is $6-8 . so your price dont seem too bad !!


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I thought I needed to do that to my D-10 also, but at $87.
I made a wrench to fit it just a couple days ago.

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70230944 is the part # on my part bag
The seals are 2" ID and 2 5/8 OD


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You could buy individual rings and makeup your own sets IF you know what your doing... 


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Thanks much guys ! This is a wealth of info . I am having a fit getting gland nut off . May have to get rough with it .
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It seems as if that (sealsales) vendor would be a lot cheaper . $25 a side with 5 total rings . I could swing that ! I quess 3000 psi would cover an old machine ??
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The older machines are 3200 psi or so... depending on who has done the adjustments.. I see some rings are "rubber" and some have "FIBER" mixed in.. the fiber should be a little more resistant to wear - damage - pressure.. look at the ones Charlie pulled out.. they are not 100% RUBBER. .......... you only see 3200 psi when STALLED OUT in the raise position.

I think the first 3 rings listed on that page is what your looking for ... FF is  female fiber ring (one end)...MF is male fiber ring (one end)... and VF is VEE fiber, the center rings ( i bet there are 3).... and you have to figure the SHIPPING cost ?


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Yes it used 3 rubber rings
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I went ahead and ordered a set for my D10. $50 is the min. order they do so I added an extra rubber ring.
$15 shipping.
$68 if it works for 20 years I will be money ahead :)
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The new seals came in today. The first and last pieces look the same as the AGCO ones
The middle ones are the same material as the end pieces. I thought they would have been rubber.

I will see of they work when I remember to put them on :)


Edited by Charlie175 - 23 Nov 2020 at 11:48am
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when you order the rings, the last two digits of the part number are VF or VH.... the VF is FABRIC ...... the VH is RUBBER....... you can use either... rubber is probably a little softer without the fabric.... bet it works !! Wink
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I should receive my seal by friday. Will put them in this wekend and post the results. Thanks to everyone !
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