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    Posted: 15 Apr 2019 at 6:19pm
I have multiple fiberglass ladders- 4',6',8' steps and 16',24' and 28' extension ladders, I  will admit that 75% of them ride on the top of my cargo body or in it;not covered. I happened to climb into the back of my vehicle this afternoon to grab a tool and slid my flannel sleeved shirt across a ladder and received  multiple "glass" slivers from it.What-if anything- can be done to alleviate the slivers?? The ladders are in excellent working shape otherwise. My first thought was "clear coat in a can"?? Thanks
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I'd say that'd be a good idea. Maybe a spray can of 'automotive' clear coat as it'd (hopefully) have lots of UV protection. Spray several light coats from different directions.
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That's what I'd try. It won't cost much and might help. I've got a ladder here that needs something done due to the same scenario.
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I'd get some straight glass resin, sand it really well then brush on the resin. Glass boat dealer or marina would have resin and some pointers. It's the same stuff that's holding all them fiberglass strands together as we speak.

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Im with Walker.... same effect as the clear coat, but you get a MUCH THICKER cover and it will soak into any threads and seal up..... due to  the BRUSH ON, you get a good thick coverage. ............ I would just mix a cup full at a time and see how long it takes before it GELLS and you cant spread it.
 
 


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All depends on how much catalyst you add on time you have. Newb better not figure on more than five minutes till they've mixed a few batches. Oh and have more than one brush ready.
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X2. Those cheapy packages 1" brushes would probably work best for the small areas. Leon
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Acetone will cut it but being it's made to permeate have spare brushes handy.
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Clear coat, lightly sand, clear coat again.  Lasts about 5 years.
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It is against OSHA regulations to coat any ladder with anything.  The reason for that is it changes the conductivity of the ladder.  I've fought the same thing in the past, I'm not an advocate for OSHA but the problem is, if OSHA catches you with a coated ladder on a jobsite the fine is pretty steep and also, they multiply it by the number of employees your company has on the premises.
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Originally posted by JW in MO JW in MO wrote:

It is against OSHA regulations to coat any ladder with anything.  The reason for that is it changes the conductivity of the ladder.  I've fought the same thing in the past, I'm not an advocate for OSHA but the problem is, if OSHA catches you with a coated ladder on a jobsite the fine is pretty steep and also, they multiply it by the number of employees your company has on the premises.

Even linseed oil on a wood ladder ?

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Originally posted by JW in MO JW in MO wrote:

It is against OSHA regulations to coat any ladder with anything.  The reason for that is it changes the conductivity of the ladder.  I've fought the same thing in the past, I'm not an advocate for OSHA but the problem is, if OSHA catches you with a coated ladder on a jobsite the fine is pretty steep and also, they multiply it by the number of employees your company has on the premises.
 
I was afraid of this very issue LOL!! Luckily I am not an electrician and don't work around live wires as a rule, no employee's either. Thanks for the heads-up though.
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Originally posted by Dusty MI Dusty MI wrote:



Even linseed oil on a wood ladder ?

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It does allow for linseed oil on wooden ladders, even recommends it but we are talking fiberglass ones.  Most commercial/industrial businesses with a written safety plan won't allow wooden  or aluminum ladders on site.
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Most employers would have had to replace a fiberglass ladder long before it got into this condition.  I understand the OSHA requirements but thought this was for "HOME" use. 
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Originally posted by jon jon wrote:

I understand the OSHA requirements but thought this was for "HOME" use. 
When I read it the first time I thought so too but then I saw the "top of the cargo van," phrase and figured it was a commercial use.  I saw OSHA fine a company several thousand dollars because their ladder didn't have 3 rungs above the edge of the building and they had 4 guys on the job.  I told someone that if they fine me a thousand or two I might pay it but if they hit me with a $40K-$50K fine I'd just give them the keys and tell them it their problem now.
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Originally posted by JW in MO JW in MO wrote:

Originally posted by jon jon wrote:

I understand the OSHA requirements but thought this was for "HOME" use. 
When I read it the first time I thought so too but then I saw the "top of the cargo van," phrase and figured it was a commercial use.  I saw OSHA fine a company several thousand dollars because their ladder didn't have 3 rungs above the edge of the building and they had 4 guys on the job.  I told someone that if they fine me a thousand or two I might pay it but if they hit me with a $40K-$50K fine I'd just give them the keys and tell them it their problem now.
 
I don't do any commercial work, strictly residential construction. Trust me, OSHA gets involved Unhappy
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I watched OSHA get involved with an employer once. Never did hear what the fine was but after they've saved you and the rest of humanity from yourselves and they don't have much else to do they become a lot like VD. You don't want it and it becomes impossible to get rid of.
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Dumbest thing I ever heard was an OSHA guy standing on the ground watching a guy that worked with my FIL.  They are welders.  They are welding this framework together for a building and Russ had to go up 30' to weld beams together.  So he up and puts the ladder against the cross beam and climbs up and ties the top off and comes back down to get whatever he needed.  The OSHA guy hands him a ticket for climbing a ladder that was not secured at the top.  GO figure that one....  I don't know if they fought that one or not, never did find out the outcome.

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At the Utility I watched as Stores Mechanics cut up what I considered quite usable ladders, company Would NOT give them to employees either, rung steps cut out for metal and fiberglass hacked up for trash. due to loss of Conductivity suppression and as well for such as noted feathering or slight cracking. WERNER used to have a inspection chart for discard limits, and did not allow for much issues.
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Do gooders have all but strangled the country to death.  Take a drive across I-44 in Mo. Think that road could be built today? The earth worshipers wouldn't allow it. I bet some dirt got in some streams.....
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Almost none of the highway systems could be built today, have to study it to death before even set shovel to sod. Just getting the REPLACEMENT bridges up at Hermann and Washington MO with a existing bridge in place took YEARS of Impact survey, study on environmental impact. All that and sand dredges work under them EVERY year while towboats ply those same waters weekly and levee districts continually work the banks.
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