Cockshutt 50 project - Buda 273

I have taken over a basket case Cockshutt 50 with the Buda 273 engine. I am looking at what I hope is a g262 Allis Engine. I think it may have 2 oil filters on it. Is it possible to be a 262 with 2 oil filters or does that automatically make it a G230? It is a Gleaner engine I am told.
The Cockshutt 40 I repaired last year is now running well. I love the sound of those Buda Allis 6 cylinders!!

Don, that is original 273 engine in it. It needs a repair sleeve. The Allis Gleaner engine I have not got it home yet. If it is a 262, I will use it as is. If not, I will use the crankshaft plus other parts.


Regards

Neil

Have someone counter bore your cylinders and put in a sleeve if cylinder wall is too damaged. The 273 is the best blocks because they do not have to worry about sleeves dropping.

I think I will put in one repair sleeve in the one cracked cylinder wall if the Allis engine is a G230 or a B230 and use its crankshaft as it is supposed to have been recently overhauled. It should fit I would think?? I have some 50 diesel piston I will use when I get them out of the seized 50 diesel block I have. If the Allis is a 262, I will use the whole engine and shelve the 273 block for future use.
Thanks for the replies.

I remember some talk that a 262 crank in a 273 block will give you 292 (3) cu.in.

Edited by Calvin Schmidt - 13 Nov 2014 at 7:24pm

The cam shaft will be a problem with the 262 crank. There will have to be flat places ground in 230 cam for rod bolts to clear.    MACK

Thanks for the input guys. When I get it all together I may have a 273 block I wiould sell, I should know better in the new year as I gather up the pieces Waiting to pick up the gleaner engine in a couple of weeks Fingers crossed that it is a 262 and runs well, but time will tell.
Regards

Neil

Thanks very much. Here is the link to the guidelines, which I would guess would work in reverse to install a Ccckshutt Buda engine like a 40 or 50 into an Allis.
https://onedrive.live.com/view.aspx?resid=A1DD97C33B89181A!4039&ithint=file%2cpdf&app=WordPdf&authkey=!APfel1QkOTnDDd0

From my past experience the 230 will have the water pump on the head mounted with one 1/2 capscew and a 262 will have the water pump on the block with four 3/8 capscrews... Also a 230 uses a bypass oil filter whereas a 262 will have a full flow...

Edited by Travis(NE) - 20 Nov 2014 at 9:14pm

Old A had water pump on head, later A and A2 had water pump on block.   MACK

All the B230 combine engines had the water pump in the head with the by-pass oil system.
All the G-230's and G-262's combine engines had the water pump in the block.
All the G-230's and all the G-262's combine engines had the full flow oil system.
Please post a shot or two of your G-262 combine engine when you get it home.

I see you already answered me Don. Sorry. Did the B series combine engines have a double oil filter and or the later large manifold allis used?
Regards

Neil

Hi Don. I got it home now and it is on my trailer yet. Here are a couple of pictures of it. It has no tag on it and no date code either that I can see. No plugs on the rh side or even marks like the b230 had where they could and maybe should have put frost plugs. The right side is all smooth. I have a picture of a G262 looking similar while a picture I have of the G230 looks like the B230 on the right side, so I am hoping it is a 262 - any thoughts on if it is?
Thanks for your help. My first thing I will do is take the compression after I put a little oil down the cylinders and then work on getting it running. It has been as few years since it ran I think.

Regards
Neil

That's a G-262 with that big Bendix carburetor on it.

DrAllis wrote: That's a G-262 with that big Bendix carburetor on it.

That is music to my ears. I should be about the same HP at 1650 rpm as the 273 with the higher compression of the 262 to make up the 11 cu inch. When I do the conversion, I will have the oil pan off so I will know for sure. I just need to work through that little detail of getting it running first!!! It is supposed to run though and I can't imagine it being stored away for these years if it was not in decent condition. Murphy's law does play a role in these things though and it seems sometimes he was an optimist.
Thanks
Neil