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Anybody know anyone who restores ceeam separators

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    Posted: 25 Jan 2023 at 8:21pm
Got my grandfather's McCormick cream separator. Electric motor was dead, had it built and now it makes ton of foam. Asked a couple of amish machine shops in the area, but they didn't have a clue
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slow it down?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Lars(wi) Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Jan 2023 at 6:00am
I know this may seem like a silly question but, are you using fresh raw milk?
Is there a model # on it somewhere?
I tried to follow the science, but it was not there. I then followed the money, and that’s where I found the science.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote dr p Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Jan 2023 at 6:21am
Not a silly queztion but yup. Maxing out the bulk tank but not enough to justify every day pick up
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote jaybmiller Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Jan 2023 at 6:36am
curious was I..
googled McCormick cream separator.
found 500,000 hits....looked at 20-30...none with motors
i suspect yours was 'upgraded ? and yes too fast = foam....

so...

slow down,...
 you're movin too fast,
you've got to make the mornin last..
just....

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My father's right arm was larger than his left arm. He hand cranked our cream separator every day with excess milk that he could not sell .kept the cream in a 10 gallon can and would make butter or sell the cream to an ice cream factory in Decatur. Electric cream separators? My father would say you were living in tall cotton if you had one of those.
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Originally posted by dr p dr p wrote:

Not a silly queztion but yup. Maxing out the bulk tank but not enough to justify every day pick up

You need to get some swine. Feed(slop) the excess to them.
I tried to follow the science, but it was not there. I then followed the money, and that’s where I found the science.
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My father fed the skim milk to the hogs after taking the cream out with the separator.
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You're preaching to the choir there Pat! I know this is irrelevant to Dr p's original post, but if I had a nickel for every revolution that I cranked a cream separator, I'd be rich! And we fed the skim milk to the hogs. Rigged up an elaborate (by our red neck standards) feeding system so we could dump the skim milk into a large container outside of the hog pen (so the hogs wouldn't run us over) and then it went into the hog trough through a pipe. The one year that we did that, my brother took three hogs to the county fair, came home with four trophies and 150 bucks per hog on the sale! 45 years ago, that was some good money!
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I hand cranked ours every morning. 60 rpm at the crank to fast and it would foam. I'd speed up to about a 100 rpm and put my cup under the cream spout and get a cup of warm cream foam at the end every morning. Ours was a McCormick it had a shelf at the bottom to add a motor but Id never seem one with a motor installed. We hauled milk in cans and cream and seperated milk were worth about the same as the equivalent whole milk without the extra work. In the past they used to get payed a lot more for cream.so there were still a few cream cans in the milk house. Cream cans are about half the size of milk cans. We put the cans in a water cooler fed by an artisan well and cooled them.
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some things never change. I am giving the milk to my neighbor. He won't take if with out being run through the separator, says it makes the pig fat too soft
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it is a 4 f
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote DiyDave Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Jan 2023 at 5:39pm
I'm wondering if something got re-assembled wrong or wired wrong as you say the motor was what you had work done to...  Look for reversed motor spin (wire it up t'other way and see what happens!) or the pump impeller installed improper, or worn through.

My entire experience comes from memory of the one my grandmother had up until the late 80's, think it were a monkey wards brand...  And, yes, we slopped hogs with 5 gallon buckets, skim milk, buttermilk and the liquid left from cottage cheese.  Plus all household scraps, 2 buckets in the morning and 2 in the evening!  800+ feet carry and hadda open the cattle gate!  For alla that and feeding about 20-30 head of cattle, chasing the milkers in 2x a day, mucking out pig pens and cow stables, and baling hay, grinding feed, shoveling snow up hill both ways etc etc etc.  AND we hadda ask grand-dad for the $1.00 a day he "paid" us monthly!Wink


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The first 1 I remember was an IHC with a electric motor. Something happened in the gears one night , the darn thing exploded on dad. He went to town the next day and bought a new deLavel. We used it until he turned the milk cows out with the stock cows, sometime after I went to the army. Mom took those plates apart every day and washed them up. We sold cream to the creamery, that check paid for our student school lunch and grocery's. He also bought a deLavel bucket milking machine. But when he bought the south farm, he left it in the barn on the north farm. He had 3 boys to help him do the milking after school. It was the only job on the farm I detested.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote WF owner Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 Jan 2023 at 7:00am
I vaguely remember my grandparents using a separator. IIRC. I think they always separated warm milk. Not sure if there was a reason, but I know the milk they were separating never went in the (can) milk cooler.
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