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 Posted: 27 May 2016 at 7:28pm |
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Robert,
Good to hear from you! I think I will go for a tractor ride right after this! Perfect evening!
Hey that washer looks like the same one on WD series. You may have to get aggressive and ruin it to get it out. Then get a new one. Yes it should be replaceable from top when you get the shift lever out. Right now that washer which looks to be the same stamping as I have seen before is the only thing holding the shift lever in the trans. More blaster and try taping on it to get it to move?
Maybe the D series guys will have more answers? Get the tractor in neutral when you pull the lever. Easier to get it lined back up.
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Chris
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Posted: 27 May 2016 at 6:54am |
Thanks guys appreciate the comments. I don't think I'll be getting inside the tractor unless I have to. I drove it around a bit before parking it and it appears to be working great.
I do have a question for the shifter handle. Curious if the transmission shifter washer (item 13) can be replaced from the outside? I'm not real for sure if mine needs to be replaced (I'm not for sure what it's supposed to look like), but when I take the boot off it's pretty rusty inside. I took the snap ring off but the "washer" didn't budge. I wasn't for sure if it was a seal or not. The shifter was originally seized but some PB Blaster and a hammer free'd it up back when I started the project.
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Sugarmaker
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Posted: 21 May 2016 at 5:22pm |
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Robert,
This is looking real good. I went about my WD's the same way. Will be well worth the work to get things cleaned up for fresh orange!
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Chris
Edited by Sugarmaker - 21 May 2016 at 5:22pm
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Posted: 21 May 2016 at 2:17pm |
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The D15 series 2 that my Dad bought new has never left the farm
6500 hours
Engine never touched
A couple of clutch replacements
Never left the farm
Great tractor
Plus it was your father's .
Priceless
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Posted: 21 May 2016 at 10:53am |
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You had alot better luck then me I am two for two in needing to replace them on in a serries 1 d15 and one in a series 1 D17. Neither one of mine would move anymore.
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Posted: 21 May 2016 at 9:39am |
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Man with her all stripped like that I think I would check out that power direct clutch pack never be an easier time to change it and my experience has been that they are probably due after all these years of use. Depends if you know when it was changed or not. |
I have NEVER had to replace any PD clutch packs on any of my tractors (2 D14s, D15, 2 D17s, 175 and 190 XT). Don't replace it for the sake of replacing it. I am pretty confident that once you get everything back together and running that PD will work as good as ever. I know the complete history of my 58 D14 - the power director and transmission are among other things that have never been touched and never had any problems. A 59 D14 that I rescued from a barn yard 5 years ago had a totally seized engine and bad transmission, BUT the power director worked perfectly!
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desertjoe
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Posted: 21 May 2016 at 8:13am |
Whew,,,Robert,,,some will wonder,,,"Will it ever get back together again,?" LOL,,,LOL,, YES,,it will,,,,As usual,Robert,,,you do very through work,,,!!!  It's gonna be a pretty one,,!!
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Posted: 21 May 2016 at 7:54am |
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Man with her all stripped like that I think I would check out that power direct clutch pack never be an easier time to change it and my experience has been that they are probably due after all these years of use. Depends if you know when it was changed or not.
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Posted: 21 May 2016 at 7:34am |
Good Morning. Getting the tractor ready to paint. I drove it around to the side garage and started breaking it down.
Started with the seat.
Then the left foot step. Lots of dirt to knock off.
Took the console out, and the right step. The right brake was seized on the shaft but I was able to work it off. Just a lot of dirt and debris built up around it. The left moves pretty freely.
Then the snap coupler comes off. The chain for the lock is broke. Pretty easy to remove, two pins and it'll fall off. Well plus the chain.
The springs for the snap ring were rusted through. This spent a lot of years in the dirt.
Then the traction booster (I guess that's what it's called?). 4 bolts and disconnect the forward rod and it will drop as well.
Just the brake rods are left.
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Steve in NJ
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Posted: 14 Apr 2016 at 8:18am |
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Holy chit Joe! Big time HOMERUN there buddy! Wow! I assume that's the 55' your buildin' now right? I was workin' on & off the Vicky last Fall cause the weather was still pretty mild yet. When the Batmobile showed up for a wire job, work came to a halt on the Vicky. I did manage to get the fuel tank installed in the Vic' and some of the fuel lines run in along with the new steel floor. Next is setting the steering column in and getting the front seats where they should be to be comfortable with the column. I also got the column drop brace put in behind a 32' dash. When my brother was out from Chicago this past Winter, him and I designed the dash layout and we got that done. Sooo, makin' progress.
The intake I have on the Vic' is your basic aluminum Edlebrock 4bbl. I found this outfit called Vintage Speed where they offered a 4bbl to two Stromberg Carb adapter. I always liked the look of those multiple 97's on engines, so I went with two Stromberg 97's on the 4.3L V6 using this Vintage Speed adapter. It definitely grabs peoples attention when they stop over the house to pickup their electrical stuff. They always say "what the heck kinda intake is dat"? Of coarse I gotta' lift the plastic off and show em'! LOL! I'll havta' post some pics of the Vicky for ya.
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Posted: 14 Apr 2016 at 7:07am |
Hey Steve,,I ain't seen an update on your wife's 31 in some time,,,I was thinkin bout the induction system you got on yours when I saw a 57 TBird at the local car show the other day and it had a set of webers that reminded me of your setup,,,, When I bought the first 55 Hardtop up in Santa Fe, NM,,,,,I never looked under it til I got it home and started the dis-assemblin and,,I almost cried,,the PO had put some pieces of tin on the 4 floor sections to keep people from falling thru is how bad the rust was,,,!! That car originally came from Wisconsin. I was so upset,,I took and parked it back in the boat shed and it rests there to this day,,,it was a perfect parts car tho, as it was all original and even had the original seat covers. The only option it did not have was the factory AC. It had ALL the stainless available and in great shape. Some years later, the Wife and I were cruising around in Carlsbad, Nm,,,and I spot a 55 HDTP behind a transmission shop, so I pull in and ask if the car is for sale. The guy says, "NO",,,,,cause it did not have an engine or transmission and he was goin to take to dump,,,!!! I kept asking what he would take for it and he finally asked me if $75 sounded OK,,,,,OK,,???,,,chit I could not get my wallet fast enough,,but all I had was $46 and he told me "you can pay me the rest when you come back for the car. I hauled azz home and borrowed a trailer and some money and went back same day,,,he thought I was crazy cause I was in such a hurry,,,,!!!! This car also came from Arizona area and is PERFECT with no rust at all,,!!! And here is what was great,,,it originally was the same color as the Santa Fe car and had all the same options including power windows and electric seats,,,
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Steve in NJ
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Posted: 14 Apr 2016 at 6:37am |
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That's because out West, you fellers have that nice dry desert air. If that thing sat outside around these parts, you wouldn't be able to tell what it was! LOL! It'd be a bucket of rust with a little Orange mixed in it if there was any Orange left on it. That's why when I was looking for a new Streetrod project car, I'd look for a Western car like the 31' Vicky I'm building right now. 95% of the body is nice solid original Henry Ford steel. Two cowl patch panels is all it has in its Arizona body. Anything that started around here in 1931 is part of Mother Earth now...
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Posted: 13 Apr 2016 at 3:41pm |
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Looks like a lot of work but does not look bad for sitting outside for all that time. I have to agree with what is said above. Remember IT IS YOUR FATHER'S TRACTOR i remember I had a chance to get the first flat top WC my father sold. Did not and have regretted it ever since. Good Luck! Bill Long |
Thanks Bill. I am a little surprised for how long it sat how little rust there really is. I probably could have salvaged those engine parts too (Well... they are boxed up on the shelf for spare parts). They weren't beyond factory tolerances. I really thing the wrist pins just seized up and had I flipped over the engine and let it soak who knows maybe could have worked it loose.
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Posted: 13 Apr 2016 at 3:30pm |
Hi Chris. My D15II has like the stamped steel in little rectangles. I've been kicking around what to do about that. Mine is pretty beat up. I'm trying to reshape it to salvage it. The grill was kicked in by cow years ago. Or bumped a cow back end... Something like that. I found a replacement screen online for $75. I might consider that route if it's too much.
Haven't done much with the tractor but start it up for people so they can hear it run. 
Next step is to get it to get it outside so I can sand blast the rest and paint!
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Posted: 13 Apr 2016 at 12:59pm |
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Robert,
On the grill. I am preparing to put new screen in the D17 series I grill. I will try to take some pictures of the mesh install. I just picked up the screen/mesh today. i think its #16 x 1/2 inch type expanded metal. Not sure if you have the same material in the D15 grill?
Have you been able to spend some time on the tractor project?
That is going to be a nice family tractor, that will make many more memories for years to come. Great that you took on the project!
I cant wait to get my dads old WD out soon too.
Regards,
Chris
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Posted: 13 Apr 2016 at 9:05am |
Looks like a lot of work but does not look bad for sitting outside for all that time. I have to agree with what is said above. Remember IT IS YOUR FATHER'S TRACTOR i remember I had a chance to get the first flat top WC my father sold. Did not and have regretted it ever since. Good Luck! Bill Long
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Posted: 13 Apr 2016 at 7:39am |
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Thanks Jim.
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Posted: 13 Apr 2016 at 1:07am |
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Ditto to all of the above comments of a great job! It's looking great!
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Posted: 27 Mar 2016 at 10:10pm |
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Absolutely!! Leon R Cmo
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Posted: 27 Mar 2016 at 10:06pm |
No I did not... But splitting the front half isn't too bad if I have to do it again...
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Posted: 27 Mar 2016 at 9:28pm |
Good job! Thanks for all of the updates. I admire your amazing craftsmanship and your ability to handle every task like you have done it a thousand times.
Quick question. Did you replace the input shaft seals where they clutch shaft goes into the torque tube? To be honest I feel bad asking but I learned the hard way that they tend to leak after putting in a new clutch.
Jim
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Posted: 27 Mar 2016 at 11:14am |
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Dad drives it only in parades! Leon R Cmo
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Posted: 27 Mar 2016 at 10:46am |
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Actually I like the old pan seats. If you just replace the shock absorber on the pans and set the seat to the right point on the curve for your weight they bounce along pretty nice. And them pans are alot easier to get dry!!! Then new pans with the holes are not so fun got pinched from them holes and I didn't like that non.
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Posted: 27 Mar 2016 at 10:41am |
Sugarmaker wrote:
Robert,
Very NICE! Your Dads tractor is coming along very well. Some minor details but that's expected with all the things you have done.
It sounds GREAT! Awesome Job.
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Thanks Chris. Always appreciate your kind words.
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Sounds good. I think you might want to splurge a little for a new seat cushion though that one doesn't look too comfortable in the closeup.  I would seriously get gauges they are on the list of spring repairs I need to finish on my tractors right now. Got to know your temp and oil. Amp meter is a nice to have but I can hook up a charger alot easier then rebuilding my motor again... ofcouse I ran all last summer without gauges... |
Haha Dan. That seat still has a little life in it. More cushion than the d17. That one is just a rusty metal pan. Yeah gauges are my next order of business.
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"THAT",,,,,is the sound of POWER,,,!!! sounds great,,!! Robert. PM sent |
Thanks joe!
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Posted: 27 Mar 2016 at 8:15am |
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"THAT",,,,,is the sound of POWER,,,!!! sounds great,,!! Robert. PM sent
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Posted: 26 Mar 2016 at 10:27pm |
Sounds good. I think you might want to splurge a little for a new seat cushion though that one doesn't look too comfortable in the closeup. I would seriously get gauges they are on the list of spring repairs I need to finish on my tractors right now. Got to know your temp and oil. Amp meter is a nice to have but I can hook up a charger alot easier then rebuilding my motor again... ofcouse I ran all last summer without gauges...
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Posted: 26 Mar 2016 at 10:26pm |
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Robert,
Very NICE! Your Dads tractor is coming along very well. Some minor details but that's expected with all the things you have done.
It sounds GREAT! Awesome Job.
Regards,
Chris
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Posted: 26 Mar 2016 at 10:09pm |
Hi. I shot some video today of the tractor running. It doesn't appear any of the gauges work, but the radiator seems to hold. The lift cylinder works, PTO works, power steering works. I've got oil leaking out of the top of the cylinder head. I'm not sure if it's because I had the valve cover off for a bit or if I have another issue. Oil pressure was around 22psi, but there's a little leak at the connection so it's probably making it lower.
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Posted: 18 Mar 2016 at 7:16pm |
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Yeah the sheet metal is really good. Beyond the front grill (which a cow kicked in) the rest has no creases or dents.
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Posted: 18 Mar 2016 at 3:50pm |
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Man, look how good that sheet metal looks. With someone being that careful to not beat it around, I would say the rest is salvageable. Give it a go, as the English would say. Leon Cmo
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