will not fit in 616
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Topic: will not fit in 616
Posted By: HudCo
Subject: will not fit in 616
Date Posted: 21 Oct 2014 at 8:19pm
| just tryed to fit 25 hp kohler in a 616 without redoing hyd lines and cutting up cooling shroud and and cutting off 1 inch of the cooling fan do not know how the honda fitts but the 23 hp briggs with 1/8 in front and back so guess we try magnum 18 twin shoud be more room than the onan |
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Posted By: Steve in NJ
Date Posted: 22 Oct 2014 at 6:25am
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Bummer! That thing probably would've kicked butt with that 25 Ponies sittin' in there! How bout' using a Porto-power and give that frame a little stretch job both ways... LOL! ------------- 39'RC, 43'WC, 48'B, 49'G, 50'WF, 65 Big 10, 67'B-110, 75'716H, 2-620's, & a Motorhead wife |
Posted By: HudCo
Date Posted: 22 Oct 2014 at 10:56am
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have to order kohler parts this week and will check on some kolher opitions that 25hp has the same size crank as the onan |
Posted By: Tracy Martin TN
Date Posted: 22 Oct 2014 at 11:24am
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What is the best transplant in a 616-620 tractor. I need to do something also. Tracy ------------- No greater gift than healthy grandkids! |
Posted By: HudCo
Date Posted: 22 Oct 2014 at 12:45pm
| the 23hp briggs vanguard fits real nice oil cooler stays were it belongs hyd lines just clear. motor mounts are simple 3x3 angle can give you all the part numbers for stub shaft and electric clutch,muffler and model, type ,code there are no mods on the sheet metal the 720 we done the customer said that he has all the power he needs plus more he has loader and tillers and plows and its twice as quiet as the old engine |
Posted By: HudCo
Date Posted: 22 Oct 2014 at 12:48pm
| clutch pulley has to be bored and broached for key at machine shop |
Posted By: bill(soh)
Date Posted: 23 Oct 2014 at 8:53pm
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Could you send me the parts numbers to install the 23 horse briggs. thanks ------------- D-15,CA,I-400,C,180 2-620's,2-110's,112,718,716, 5015, agco 1718 |
Posted By: Tracy Martin TN
Date Posted: 25 Oct 2014 at 9:22pm
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What about a Honda repower? Tracy ------------- No greater gift than healthy grandkids! |
Posted By: HudCo
Date Posted: 25 Oct 2014 at 11:02pm
| we was going to do a gx 690 22hp 0r a gx660 21hp in a 720 but we were haveing troble finding stub shafts and the muffler option was not right so we have the briggs figured out i have seen place back in ohio ithink that has a kit for a 720 with a honda but they cut a hole in the grill for the exahuast and it looked like they missed the first time also they will not sell motor mounts or the clutch pulley or anything unless you purchase the motor from them yesterday i got to meet our new honda rep. and he had a catalog on honda options he is getting me one he told me honda will not publish any of that kind of stuff because it is altering the emmisions but when we get to do some ones i will really consider it with this new info |
Posted By: Tracy Martin TN
Date Posted: 25 Oct 2014 at 11:08pm
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I would really like to try a Honda engine. Making the stb shafts and mounts are no problem. Tracy ------------- No greater gift than healthy grandkids! |
Posted By: accoll
Date Posted: 27 Oct 2014 at 7:58pm
Posted By: Steve in NJ
Date Posted: 28 Oct 2014 at 6:55am
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Tracy, Might be something good to get into to design. You could come up with a nice kit for folks to do a Honda transplant! ------------- 39'RC, 43'WC, 48'B, 49'G, 50'WF, 65 Big 10, 67'B-110, 75'716H, 2-620's, & a Motorhead wife |
Posted By: Tracy Martin TN
Date Posted: 28 Oct 2014 at 8:28am
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Steve, I just wonder which Honda would fit with little to no modification on tractor frame or sheet metal. Tracy ------------- No greater gift than healthy grandkids! |
Posted By: accoll
Date Posted: 28 Oct 2014 at 8:41am
| My 616 was repowered with a Kohler Magnum 20 engine. Only modifications needed was to hood to allow exhaust clearance. |
Posted By: Tracy Martin TN
Date Posted: 28 Oct 2014 at 11:55am
------------- No greater gift than healthy grandkids! |
accoll wrote:Posted By: HudCo
Date Posted: 28 Oct 2014 at 1:05pm
| i am working on the m18 in my own because i have the engine you probly only had to trim the baffle in side the hood i also have a pump i am going to see if i can mount directly on the crank with out interfering with the battery but probly have to mount under and use the electric clutch and belt |