Legendary 190
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Printed Date: 19 May 2024 at 3:54am
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Topic: Legendary 190
Posted By: IBWD MIke
Subject: Legendary 190
Date Posted: 26 Apr 2024 at 8:49am
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This popped up on you tube yesterday, thought you guys might like it; https://youtu.be/eR2ZndDxQeo?si=6_Yk1CPDktEL42cq" rel="nofollow - https://youtu.be/eR2ZndDxQeo?si=6_Yk1CPDktEL42cq
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Posted By: plummerscarin
Date Posted: 26 Apr 2024 at 11:55am
Yep, seen that one. 
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Posted By: darrel in ND
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2024 at 5:30am
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I watched that also. Was pleasantly surprised to have someone praise one nineties rather then bash them. I have two of them, and would tend to agree that they are legendary. Darrel |
Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2024 at 7:21am
| Suspended clutch/brake pedals.....console control.......large rear mounted fuel tank.......high flat deck platform.......sloping tapered hood........tilt steering wheel...........12 position seat suspension.........3-section hydraulic pump.......roll shift front axle........these aren't features from a 4020 Deere !!! |
Posted By: IBWD MIke
Date Posted: 28 Apr 2024 at 6:53am
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There's a lot to like about a 190, no doubt about it! Kind of surprising one has never found it's way here? Guess I'm not dead yet, still time for it to happen. |
Posted By: AC720Man
Date Posted: 28 Apr 2024 at 1:55pm
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I haven’t found anything my XT doesn’t do well. For a 1968 tractor in many ways they were way ahead of the competition in comfort, hydraulics, and power. As mentioned console control is one of its best assets. It’s a really good hay baling tractor and love driving it no matter what the task is. Fuel efficiency is excellent for its size. ------------- 1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD |
Posted By: Allis dave
Date Posted: 29 Apr 2024 at 6:40am
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The 4020 might not have a had a 3-section hydraulic pump but it was closed center. Nice videos and some neat old ads
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Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 29 Apr 2024 at 6:46am
| And I have operated a 4020 and was never impressed with the hydraulic system. Say if you're throttled down quite a bit and doing some steering manuevers, the lift/lower part of their system doesn't have much if any oil flow to it. A mighty One-Ninety does. |
Posted By: IBWD MIke
Date Posted: 29 Apr 2024 at 7:20am
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I don't understand all the hulabaloo about the 4020, they seem rather unremarkable to me. I'll not fight the deere boys for them, especially at today's rather inflated prices! |
Posted By: NEVER green
Date Posted: 29 Apr 2024 at 8:33am
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They used to have plowing demonstrations using many brands, not long the 4020 quit showing up. ------------- 2-8050 1-7080 6080 D-19 modelE & A 7040 R50 |
Posted By: bigal121892
Date Posted: 29 Apr 2024 at 4:46pm
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Much preferred the 4020 on the feed wagons, syncro transmission, (or powershift), and wet, power brakes. |
Posted By: DPKII
Date Posted: 30 Apr 2024 at 9:05am
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Very cool! Really enjoyed seeing the original 190 factory brochure. And it even had a picture of the front mount 5 row bedder that came on my 190 (190 preservation thread) when Grandpa bought it. They demoed the 190 with bedder in Grandpas field and he bought it. The front mount tool bar is still sitting in a fence line at Moms. Surprised that it is still around as I dont remember Grandpa ever using it. Figured it would have been used for steel for some other project by now. David  |
Posted By: CAL(KS)
Date Posted: 30 Apr 2024 at 12:38pm
I will take my 190xt over a 4020 everytime, except when i need to change directions while brush hogging   ------------- Me -C,U,UC,WC,WD45,190XT,TL-12,145T,HD6G,HD16,HD20 Dad- WD, D17D, D19D, RT100A, 7020, 7080,7580, 2-8550's, 2-S77, HD15 |
Posted By: AC720Man
Date Posted: 30 Apr 2024 at 8:27pm
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Cool picture David, never seen a picture of one of those bedders before. Ran our new to us 910 MoCo disk mower on my XT this afternoon. Tractor did great but the MoCo couldn’t handle cutting the thick orchard grass in 3rd hi(6th gear), it started to skip which makes me think the slipper clutch may be slipping. So I ran in 3rd gear and it did fine. Still a lot faster than our old haybine which gave us a lot good years of service. Nothing like hearing the music coming out of the straight pipe on a XT. ------------- 1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD |
Posted By: DPKII
Date Posted: 01 May 2024 at 8:04am
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AC720, I think the 190 is a perfect sized tractor for hay work. I have many hours driving mine in the hay fields. Used to cut with a 488 haybine in 6th gear. My 190 has the older shift pattern with 4th and 6th together. Pulled a 283 and 425 square baler in 3rd or 5th depending on the wind row size. I even did some raking with the 190 with a single new holland rake. Most raking was done with the D17s but I preferred driving the 190. Up high out of the dust it would pull the rake idled down in 7th gear. That made it nice and quiet to run. |