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720 Seat Repair

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Topic: 720 Seat Repair
Posted By: Dave (NE)
Subject: 720 Seat Repair
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2024 at 8:42am
Well, the seat on my 720 has slowly been cracking and I've been doing some poor patching with black duct tape.  So, thought it was time to see if an upholstery place could repair it.  Was informed it was very difficult and time consuming.  Best guess estimate of cost was $500.  Has anyone had this seat repaired?  Or, does anyone have a good seat they would sell?Or, any other ideas/options?  Thanks, Dave

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Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience. Mark Twain.



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Posted By: Steve in NJ
Date Posted: 07 Apr 2024 at 9:12am
My seat was non existent when I purchased my 620. Just a steel pan with a AC decal on the back. I replaced it with one of the aftermarket seats on the internet. Actually, the new seat looks right at home on the ole' 620. I think that seat cost me $50. bucks a few years ago. That's one less zero than the cost of your repair, and it actually looks pretty nice too!  
Steve@B&B


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39'RC, 43'WC, 48'B, 49'G, 50'WF, 65 Big 10, 67'B-110, 75'716H, 2-620's, & a Motorhead wife


Posted By: Dave (NE)
Date Posted: 07 Apr 2024 at 9:33am
Yeah, Steve, that is a good option and one my wife suggested.  Was just looking for a cost effective way to stay as original as possible.  Years ago, my Dad had a seat from a D17 that was just the metal (as you describe yours was) redone by an upholstery person and it turned out pretty nice.  He never would tell me how much he spent to have it done!

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Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience. Mark Twain.


Posted By: Steve in NJ
Date Posted: 11 Apr 2024 at 8:36am
Those upholstery guys aren't cheap Dave. Take it from a guy that's been around hotrods all his life and the interiors these guys do. Some beeeutiful work out there some of these guys do, but you can buy a small house for what they get to do an interior!  LOL! I gotta' git' the seat done in my 26 T coupe. I'm afraid to bring it to the upholstery shop! The old bugger needs some serious padding put in it. Maybe I'll just stack a handful of catalogs on the seat and call it good! This way I'll be able to see out the Windshield....  LOL!  I'm sure my buddy Fred will have somethin' ta' say bout' that..!
Steve@B&B


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39'RC, 43'WC, 48'B, 49'G, 50'WF, 65 Big 10, 67'B-110, 75'716H, 2-620's, & a Motorhead wife


Posted By: Dave (NE)
Date Posted: 12 Apr 2024 at 8:38am
Yeah, I may try to get some of that Flex Tape I see advertised on TV and patch up some of the cracks with it.  Not sure it will stick to the vinyl seat, but it is supposed to mold to the conforms of the seat, which would be nice.

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Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience. Mark Twain.


Posted By: AC WD45
Date Posted: 12 Apr 2024 at 10:22am
Call Sandy Lake Implement in Sandy Lake PA. They are the AC/Simplicity parts experts and likely can get you a seat for a lot less than $500. Pretty well known in the Simplicity community.

Phone number: (724) 376-2489

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Posted By: Dave (NE)
Date Posted: 25 Apr 2024 at 8:52am
Well, tried some of that Gorilla repair tape.  Boy, that stuff sticks and you get no chance to move it once you put an end down but with it being 4" wide it did a good job of covering the cracks.  Have used the 720 a few times since applying it and the tape stays in place, so for now am satisfied.  Thanks for the comments.  Dave

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Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience. Mark Twain.


Posted By: Steve in NJ
Date Posted: 25 Apr 2024 at 12:18pm
Cheap repair and it works!  Thumbs Up


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39'RC, 43'WC, 48'B, 49'G, 50'WF, 65 Big 10, 67'B-110, 75'716H, 2-620's, & a Motorhead wife


Posted By: 55allis
Date Posted: 30 Apr 2024 at 6:52pm
One from northern tool looks nice on my 416…

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1955 AC WD45 diesel with D262 repower, 1949 AC WD45


Posted By: Gatz in NE
Date Posted: 03 May 2024 at 2:03pm
Dave, 
Surplus Center has some seats that would be considered “universal”, but might work.  There’s a number of them in black.
The last time I stopped in there, they no longer had a show-room so a person could look at a few examples; now it’s just a small entry and an order counter.  The showroom they had for many years was very nice.
Not sure of their reasoning, guess the walk-in business didn’t justify the floor space.


Posted By: Dave (NE)
Date Posted: 03 May 2024 at 4:53pm
Thanks, Gatz.  My intent was to try to keep it original and look for someone that may have an original seat to sell or know of a cost effective way to refurbish the one I have.  Surplus Center stopped letting people in and having a show room during the pandemic.  I got a couple things then, and had to speak with them standing outside the building.  Haven't been back since.  Thanks for the info.  Dave

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Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience. Mark Twain.


Posted By: Leadoff
Date Posted: 03 May 2024 at 4:57pm
Dave (NE)

Here is a used seat from an Allis Chalmers 185 I fitted to my AC 716H.  The cushions and arm rests are held together with black duct tape.  It is very comfortable.  It became available when I purchased a new replacement seat for my 185.   I picked up a second used 185 seat (no arm rests) from our local salvage yard, and have it on my other 716H.  The used seat at the salvage yard was 50$, duct tape not included.

I drilled out a couple of holes in the tractor rear metal cover to match the seat threaded holes.  These seats even have seat belt!

There are lots of these old seats out there at salvage yards (185/200/7000 series/6000) New cushions/arm rests can be purchased at A and W Tractor

https://awtractor.com/product/allis-chalmers-flip-up-armrest-185-200-6080-7000-7020-8050-255583-2-2-2/" rel="nofollow - ALLIS-CHALMERS MARATHON SEAT BOTTOM VINYL SEAT CUSHION 185 200 6080 7000 7020 8050 275493 – A&W Tractor LLC (awtractor.com)







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1963 D17D Series III. 1965 D15 Series II. 1965 D17 Series IV. 1975 185. 1978 716H. 1979 716H. 1965 780 Harvester/1R&DC. 1957 Model 73 SC 4 Furrow Plow


Posted By: Dave (NE)
Date Posted: 04 May 2024 at 8:10am
Seems like that black tape is used quite frequently!

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Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience. Mark Twain.


Posted By: Steve in NJ
Date Posted: 04 May 2024 at 8:21am
Nice 716H Bob. My favorite 700 series Tractor. Here's one I'm putting together little by little when I git' time to play.



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39'RC, 43'WC, 48'B, 49'G, 50'WF, 65 Big 10, 67'B-110, 75'716H, 2-620's, & a Motorhead wife


Posted By: Leadoff
Date Posted: 04 May 2024 at 10:57am
Steve in NJ

Wow.  Very nice 716H Steve.  The detail is outstanding.  The engine looks right out of the factory

Great work.  Thanks for sharing 


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1963 D17D Series III. 1965 D15 Series II. 1965 D17 Series IV. 1975 185. 1978 716H. 1979 716H. 1965 780 Harvester/1R&DC. 1957 Model 73 SC 4 Furrow Plow



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