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6080 not mine but neat

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Topic: 6080 not mine but neat
Posted By: bradley6874
Subject: 6080 not mine but neat
Date Posted: 19 Apr 2018 at 1:22pm


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You can wash the dirt off the body but you can’t wash the farmer out of the heart and soul



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Posted By: DougG
Date Posted: 19 Apr 2018 at 8:00pm
Very nice!!!!!!!!! Whats the story on this one


Posted By: AllisFreak MN
Date Posted: 19 Apr 2018 at 8:12pm
I like the look, very cool. But why would you want to do that?

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'49 A-C WD, '51 A-C WD, '63 A-C D17 Series III, 1968 A-C One-Seventy, '82 A-C 6060, '75 A-C 7040, A-C #3 sickle mower, 2 A-C 701 wagons, '78 Gleaner M2


Posted By: victoryallis
Date Posted: 19 Apr 2018 at 8:45pm
Been atleast 3 threads with that tractor on here before. Besides why bastardize a perfectly nice tractor.

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8030 and 8050MFWD, 7580, 3 6080's, 160, 7060, 175, heirloom D17, Deere 8760


Posted By: Luke R.
Date Posted: 20 Apr 2018 at 6:23am
Why not do that. I think it looks pretty good. If you are bored and want something different. Better than another modified B or WD picture.

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Posted By: bradley6874
Date Posted: 20 Apr 2018 at 8:37am
Sorry but I think it's darn sharp looking and without a full story I am not putting it down there were a lot of red and green factory tricycles made and they do have there place

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You can wash the dirt off the body but you can’t wash the farmer out of the heart and soul


Posted By: victoryallis
Date Posted: 20 Apr 2018 at 8:57am
Originally posted by bradley6874 bradley6874 wrote:

they do have there place


Other than backing stuff in a barn where are the advantages?

Let’s see the disadvantages
Less stable
Another set of tracks to run more crops over
Can’t straddle a windrow of hay or straw
Worse in mud

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8030 and 8050MFWD, 7580, 3 6080's, 160, 7060, 175, heirloom D17, Deere 8760


Posted By: IHCfarmer
Date Posted: 20 Apr 2018 at 8:59am
How did he do that?


Posted By: bradley6874
Date Posted: 20 Apr 2018 at 9:23am
There most usefull place is not around you obviously and on that note I am done

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You can wash the dirt off the body but you can’t wash the farmer out of the heart and soul


Posted By: Ky.Allis
Date Posted: 20 Apr 2018 at 5:12pm
If you are raking hay with a side delivery rake or mowing hay with a haybine the narrow front is great for sharp turns and making square corners when mowing hay. Power steering is also a big plus. I grew up on narrow front AC's. At one point dad had WD45,D-14,D-17,CA all narrow front.


Posted By: victoryallis
Date Posted: 20 Apr 2018 at 8:32pm
Originally posted by Ky.Allis Ky.Allis wrote:

If you are raking hay with a side delivery rake or mowing hay with a haybine the narrow front is great for sharp turns and making square corners when mowing hay. Power steering is also a big plus. I grew up on narrow front AC's. At one point dad had WD45,D-14,D-17,CA all narrow front.


Here folks cut hay like they plant corn. Few laps around plus some “end rows” and then cut lengthwise. If it’s a wide field I’ll split it. Square corners just adds stress to the U-joints.

The front wheels running on the windrow just shatters leaves and stems. First tractor I drove was a NF C never thought man that was handy. I had chances to buy the C after his passing and refused.

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8030 and 8050MFWD, 7580, 3 6080's, 160, 7060, 175, heirloom D17, Deere 8760


Posted By: Ky.Allis
Date Posted: 20 Apr 2018 at 10:45pm
OK Victoryallis I think we all know by now that you HATE narrow front tractors so you can STOP bashing them. I'm just saying back in the 1960-70's(before disc mowers) if you cut hay in "lands" as you describe there would be lots of wasted time driving across the ends. I've mowed many,many fields with haybine cutting square corners. In other words the machine was always mowing hay and header never raised till the strip thru the middle was finished and NEVER EVER replaced a u-joint. Times change and now some guys mow as you do and that's fine. As my father always said--Every farmer has his own way to do things but the end result is ALWAYS the SAME.


Posted By: Gary Burnett
Date Posted: 20 Apr 2018 at 11:14pm
Lots of uses for NF tractors really good in the woods,when disking won't leave a track on the outside like a WF when making a turn.Plus they look pretty cool.Have several NF tractors I use all the time.


Posted By: JohnCO
Date Posted: 20 Apr 2018 at 11:15pm
There were a lot more IH H's and M's with narrow front then wide.  And look at all the JD B's and A's.  Great for cultivating, pulling a grain drill.  IMHO, I think the 60 series looks great with a narrow front.  May be the only one in existence!



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Posted By: Jordan(OH)
Date Posted: 21 Apr 2018 at 6:11am
Originally posted by victoryallis victoryallis wrote:

Originally posted by Ky.Allis Ky.Allis wrote:

If you are raking hay with a side delivery rake or mowing hay with a haybine the narrow front is great for sharp turns and making square corners when mowing hay. Power steering is also a big plus. I grew up on narrow front AC's. At one point dad had WD45,D-14,D-17,CA all narrow front.


Here folks cut hay like they plant corn. Few laps around plus some “end rows” and then cut lengthwise. If it’s a wide field I’ll split it. Square corners just adds stress to the U-joints. 


So 90 degree corners stress U-joints but 180 doesn't?




Posted By: MACK
Date Posted: 21 Apr 2018 at 6:44am
I always thought that was the reason for u-joints. MACK


Posted By: victoryallis
Date Posted: 21 Apr 2018 at 6:55am
If they are so great why did manufacturers stop making them over 40 years ago?   Correct me if I’m wrong conversation kits were also made to go WF.

First tractor I drove was a narrow front C and drove a narrow Minne Mo for a neighbor when in school. When my turn to pick what equipment I wanted from my grandfather’s estate I took the wide front D17 over the narrow C

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8030 and 8050MFWD, 7580, 3 6080's, 160, 7060, 175, heirloom D17, Deere 8760


Posted By: Gary Burnett
Date Posted: 21 Apr 2018 at 7:33am
Originally posted by victoryallis victoryallis wrote:

If they are so great why did manufacturers stop making them over 40 years ago?   Correct me if I’m wrong conversation kits were also made to go WF.

First tractor I drove was a narrow front C and drove a narrow Minne Mo for a neighbor when in school. When my turn to pick what equipment I wanted from my grandfather’s estate I took the wide front D17 over the narrow C


If wide fronts are so great why are people paying $10,000 for a NF now?
Guess a lot of people were slow to catch on.LOL


Posted By: Steve in NJ
Date Posted: 21 Apr 2018 at 8:29am
Everybody has an opinion. Like butts, everybody has one. Some folks like the NF Tractors, some don't. No big deal. I think that 6080 looks great, and the owner did a nice job on it. Its different. If you don't like NF's, that's fine, but I wouldn't bash or trash it. Like any other hobby, different upgrades make things interesting. If everybody did the same thing, hobby's or projects would be boring. Be open minded Victory. Different things spark interest and new idea's, and that improves the hobby whether its Cars, Trucks, Tractors, whatever. Not everyone is going to like an upgrade that another has done whether a paint job, engine change, or designing a NF in this case. That's okay. But, there's no need to keep shootin' a dead horse. Word your opinion nicely and move on. This way no toes get stomped on. Pretty simple...
Steve@B&B


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39'RC, 43'WC, 48'B, 49'G, 50'WF, 65 Big 10, 67'B-110, 75'716H, 2-620's, & a Motorhead wife


Posted By: Ky.Allis
Date Posted: 21 Apr 2018 at 10:06am
OK Victory---I throw the towel in!! Everybody get all those narrow front tractors(all colors) out of the sheds and chop,cut them up,melt them down. They were an engineering mistake. Maybe someone can design some sort of kit to use a wide front tractor for the few guys still using a 2 row mounted cornpicker.


Posted By: bigal121892
Date Posted: 21 Apr 2018 at 10:48am
Wide fronts, do not make good Tow-line tractors, narrow fronts do.


Posted By: IBWD MIke
Date Posted: 21 Apr 2018 at 7:42pm
I like it! Yes, because of 'SAFETY' in this country narrow fronts went away. Doesn't mean they aren't still useful or 'neat'. 


Posted By: Acdiesel
Date Posted: 22 Apr 2018 at 12:13pm
i think at the end of the day most people just like the looks of a narrow front tractor, purpose full or not.

dan 


JMO


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D19 diesel,D17 diesel SER.3 D14 NF,D14 WF, D15 SER.II wf
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Posted By: TREVMAN
Date Posted: 23 Apr 2018 at 3:51pm
I think it looks cool, looks "right". The rest of it, whatever...
Trev


Posted By: bigal121892
Date Posted: 23 Apr 2018 at 5:17pm
Originally posted by TREVMAN TREVMAN wrote:

I think it looks cool, looks "right". The rest of it, whatever...
Trev

I agree, and the last time I checked I wasn't asked to help pay for it. I would think, the guy can do what he wants with his money.


Posted By: HudCo
Date Posted: 23 Apr 2018 at 9:55pm
mostly around here people dont cultivate three rows at at a time any more witch would be about thirty or forty years now



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