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WTS 24 hp Honda (now 37hp w/pics)

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Topic: WTS 24 hp Honda (now 37hp w/pics)
Posted By: fasstman
Subject: WTS 24 hp Honda (now 37hp w/pics)
Date Posted: 16 Sep 2015 at 8:54pm
Complete repower 24 hp Honda kit. In tractor now. I am going bigger yet. The engine has new coils, 10 degree timing key, Carb gone through, Valves redone. Runs great. 1000.00 o.b.o. Thanks P.M. with replies



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Posted By: Steve in NJ
Date Posted: 17 Sep 2015 at 6:15am
Trevor,
How many hours on the engine?

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39'RC, 43'WC, 48'B, 49'G, 50'WF, 65 Big 10, 67'B-110, 75'716H, 2-620's, & a Motorhead wife


Posted By: fasstman
Date Posted: 17 Sep 2015 at 8:21am
Not sure on the hrs. Cylinders looked great when the heads were off to do the valves. I will get pics later today. Valves were carboned up not burnt. Thanks


Posted By: fasstman
Date Posted: 17 Sep 2015 at 12:03pm


Posted By: fasstman
Date Posted: 17 Sep 2015 at 12:05pm


Posted By: fasstman
Date Posted: 17 Sep 2015 at 12:06pm
It's all dirty from dragging the fresh yard.


Posted By: fasstman
Date Posted: 19 Sep 2015 at 8:08pm
btt


Posted By: fasstman
Date Posted: 21 Sep 2015 at 7:55am
This is a complete kit. The kits sell for 1600 or 1700 new.


Posted By: fasstman
Date Posted: 27 Sep 2015 at 8:19am
The engine and kit are out and ready to go.


Posted By: Roach
Date Posted: 29 Sep 2015 at 8:26pm
What are you thinking about in the way of bigger?
Also, how far are you from Illinois border?  

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1937 WC, 1948 G,1954 CA,1956 WD45, 1967 D17, 1937 M crawler, 1963 D-19, 1966 190XT, 1967 D-15, 1948 HG42 Cletrac, 1955 G456 Terra Trac, CAT 10 1928 and CAT 22 1938


Posted By: fasstman
Date Posted: 29 Sep 2015 at 8:39pm
I am between Eau Claire and La Crosse. I put in a Kohler Command Pro 37 HP.


Posted By: Steve in NJ
Date Posted: 30 Sep 2015 at 7:13am
That big dude should make that 720 talk man! 37HP, my wife would like that.. LOL!

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39'RC, 43'WC, 48'B, 49'G, 50'WF, 65 Big 10, 67'B-110, 75'716H, 2-620's, & a Motorhead wife


Posted By: coggonobrien
Date Posted: 30 Sep 2015 at 7:38am
any pictures/details on the kohler install?


Posted By: Steve in NJ
Date Posted: 30 Sep 2015 at 2:20pm
Yeah, like Dave says, ya need to git yer' Camera out! LOL!!

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39'RC, 43'WC, 48'B, 49'G, 50'WF, 65 Big 10, 67'B-110, 75'716H, 2-620's, & a Motorhead wife


Posted By: fasstman
Date Posted: 30 Sep 2015 at 5:14pm


Posted By: fasstman
Date Posted: 30 Sep 2015 at 5:19pm
Still have front clutch and rear pto. Lengthened 3 1/16" and a 1 5/8" spacer between flywheel and pulley. Working on relocating air cleaner. I need another hood if someone has a spare.


Posted By: BrianC
Date Posted: 30 Sep 2015 at 6:01pm
I once worked my stock 620 hard enough to have the transmission oil temp light come on. How is it going to handle 17 more horsepower. What is driving the quest for more power? With a handle like Fasstman, is
it the more speed, more power philosophy?
The air cleaner looks like a tight fit. Is that why you need a new hood, will it have to be reworked? We had some pictures posted here showing extended 720 (3cyl diesels). They must of had to make new hoods. Perhaps contact that poster for hood info, maybe they have a sheet metal wizard contact.
How is the vibration and smoothness and sound of these v-twins compared to the opposed Onan? Looks like you can get to the started with out pulling the engine, yeah.




Posted By: Roach
Date Posted: 30 Sep 2015 at 6:18pm
Now that ought to Get-er-done. Looks good. Keep us posted. I'm going to do something with mine but don't know what yet? A buddy of mine put in a Honda in his but he cant put the hood on as it gets hot. Did you have that problem with your Honda?

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1937 WC, 1948 G,1954 CA,1956 WD45, 1967 D17, 1937 M crawler, 1963 D-19, 1966 190XT, 1967 D-15, 1948 HG42 Cletrac, 1955 G456 Terra Trac, CAT 10 1928 and CAT 22 1938


Posted By: fasstman
Date Posted: 30 Sep 2015 at 6:42pm
I just like power and because I can do it. The engine is smoother and more quiet than the onan. I am relocating the air cleaner for space.


Posted By: fasstman
Date Posted: 30 Sep 2015 at 6:44pm
My hood got hot but never blistered the paint. I want to run a lower profile battery and put another heat shield by it to keep more heat off of it.


Posted By: BrianC
Date Posted: 30 Sep 2015 at 7:13pm
Mine has a vertical muffler, not under the hood. I think that helps the
heat issue. The exhaust pipes are not wrapped with insulation.
But now I have to watch for tree branches.


Posted By: Steve in NJ
Date Posted: 01 Oct 2015 at 7:13pm
OH YEAH!  Now yer' talkin' !  Looks great Trev!  Tight but fits. How's it go?

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39'RC, 43'WC, 48'B, 49'G, 50'WF, 65 Big 10, 67'B-110, 75'716H, 2-620's, & a Motorhead wife


Posted By: fasstman
Date Posted: 01 Oct 2015 at 7:27pm
Goes fine. You can just idle up hill with hydro in full forward in third gear and engine hardly even knows it. Just about have the mower deck mods done. Have the air cleaner relocated. Still looking for a hood.


Posted By: HudCo
Date Posted: 02 Oct 2015 at 10:13am
thats a good price for your honda ,   how much did you have to strech the frame , will you have to widen the hood to fit the valve covers


Posted By: fasstman
Date Posted: 02 Oct 2015 at 1:20pm
3 1/16" stretch and I will have to lengthen and widen the hood. I am tring to get stuff low enough so I don't raise the hood.


Posted By: Steve in NJ
Date Posted: 04 Oct 2015 at 7:47pm
I just painted my hood, and man, let me tell ya, those hoods are looong!  LOL!  Adding another 3+ inches is gonna make it look like a Funny Car body.  LOL!

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39'RC, 43'WC, 48'B, 49'G, 50'WF, 65 Big 10, 67'B-110, 75'716H, 2-620's, & a Motorhead wife


Posted By: BrianC
Date Posted: 05 Oct 2015 at 6:57am
Can someone explain how you go about extending and widening the hood?


Posted By: Steve in NJ
Date Posted: 05 Oct 2015 at 8:33am
Hang tight Brian, I got a feelin' Trev is gonna show ya with a couple pics. LOL!

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39'RC, 43'WC, 48'B, 49'G, 50'WF, 65 Big 10, 67'B-110, 75'716H, 2-620's, & a Motorhead wife


Posted By: fasstman
Date Posted: 05 Oct 2015 at 12:38pm
I am not there yet. Still looking for a extra hood. I might have found one. I am still tring to shave the height down so I don't have to raise the hood. The hydraulic lines should be done today. Then it will be the hood. I mowed with it a couple days ago.


Posted By: Chief Cockeye
Date Posted: 18 Jan 2016 at 8:20pm
I'd love to see pictures of that rig.



Posted By: ac720nut
Date Posted: 09 Feb 2016 at 11:43am
Fasstman, I can't help asking how is the heat issue? The reason I ask is I have 2 Exmark mowers with 38hp engines 999 ci, both have failed at around 500 hours due to some heat issue.They started ticking real loud and then went to missing real bad. One broke the cam dealer wouldn't say why but other is in shop now for replace. Kohler replaced both but I can't see them running any cooler in that chassis. Hopefully you won't have these problems but check with Kohler as there is a recall on certain big block engines


Posted By: fasstman
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2016 at 9:20pm
Hope i don't have heat problems. I header rapt the muffler seems to work good. The hood is widened and longer. I still have to do body work and paint. I will try to get some pics. It's cold around here now.


Posted By: fasstman
Date Posted: 13 Feb 2016 at 12:29pm


Posted By: fasstman
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2016 at 4:15pm
People wanted to see pics. here they are


Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2016 at 4:44pm


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Like them all, but love the "B"s.


Posted By: HudCo
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2016 at 10:16pm
 i sure like that winter cab what part #  it  probley very hard to find


Posted By: fasstman
Date Posted: 18 Feb 2016 at 8:45am
Looks like 9000022 allis #.


Posted By: Bird76Mojo
Date Posted: 30 Jul 2016 at 2:59am
Did you ever sell that Honda kit?


GB :)


Posted By: sparky
Date Posted: 30 Jul 2016 at 9:09pm
He did,I bought it.

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It's the color tractor my grandpa had!


Posted By: Tracy Martin TN
Date Posted: 30 Jul 2016 at 9:16pm
Originally posted by sparky sparky wrote:

He did,I bought it.


Did you install it on a 616-620? If so, do you like it? Thanks Tracy

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No greater gift than healthy grandkids!


Posted By: sparky
Date Posted: 31 Jul 2016 at 11:18pm
Yes sir,and it runs fine.

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It's the color tractor my grandpa had!


Posted By: Tracy Martin TN
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2016 at 10:49pm
Originally posted by sparky sparky wrote:

Yes sir,and it runs fine.

What series Honda was it you installed? Thanks Tracy

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No greater gift than healthy grandkids!


Posted By: sparky
Date Posted: 05 Aug 2016 at 2:37pm
Tracy I don't know what series it is. It doesn't have any tag markings that I can see that would tell me. Maybe someone could tell by the pics at the top of this thread? Maybe Fasstman could tell the series??

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It's the color tractor my grandpa had!


Posted By: Bird76Mojo
Date Posted: 05 Aug 2016 at 2:42pm
Looks to be a GX series Honda.


GB :)



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