Any easy way to........

change the two lever loader control to a single lever joystick on a 645 allis payloader? Thanks, Darrel

should be just change the hyd hoses to the right ports...probably hafta change them a few times to get it right.

Not sure if you have the room, but some vales these days are either twin levers or single joystick option, look online an may be able to convert your handles with some new or homemade linkage. My local power drive store stocks the conversion handle for their valve does not look very complicated.

Go study an old 580B case backhoe.One lever worked two valves.Some pivots and bell cranks.I used to run a 645 all day long loading rock.Don't remember any weirdness using two levers.

Darrel does yours have the boom height stop and bucket level system?

Darrell, I think SteveM is right those two sticks will probably load more than you'll ever need to load. We loaded thousands and thousands of cu.yards of dirt and gravel and many millions of board feet of logs with two stick loaders 645s /745s, we were just happy we had AC loaders. We called them WOBBLE STICKS when they first came out. That was before joy sticks with electric buttons and pilot operated valves. Truth be known the 745C that you see in some of our posts has a WOBBLE STICK. I think some of the last years of production that was OEM type stuff
It is a nice feature but the third valve for the top clamps was a separate lever. These picture are the factory 745 assembly
So as Mactractor says the HD11B SERIES dozers came OEM with WOBBLE STICKS if you had tilt valves for the dozer blade. We did fabricate one of those assemblies once and it looks like this.
I was fortunate to have one to copy. The actual wobble part is two clevis yokes with a bolt through them

With some rod ends and hein joints you could make it happen.
Pretty simple, right down to the stack of washers for a spacer under the fulcrum that I was going to replace with a bushing if this all worked (I doubt that that happens now that it's been this way for twenty years)
So if you just can't adapt to those two sticks here are some options. If you haven't come up with a solution by the time you come visit us for your AC playday we'll design something and build it before you leave (we have a 545 that needs restoration and this might be a feature to practice on)

some good ideas there guys. If I can muster up some ambition and get some time, I may try to fabricate something. Unless I learn to like the two levers. Thanks, Darrel

SHAMELESS wrote: git a midget to run the other lever!

Interesting concept

Shameless, they prefer to be called "little people", somewhat like our friend in NJ....