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    Posted: 21 Oct 2014 at 8:19pm
just tryed to fit 25 hp kohler   in a 616 without redoing hyd lines and cutting up cooling shroud and and cutting off 1 inch of the cooling fan do not know  how the honda fitts but the 23 hp briggs with 1/8 in front and back  so guess we try magnum 18 twin shoud be more room than the onan
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Bummer! That thing probably would've kicked butt with that 25 Ponies sittin' in there! How bout' using a Porto-power and give that frame a little stretch job both ways... LOL!
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have to order kohler parts this week and will check on some kolher opitions that 25hp has the same size crank as the onan

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What is the best transplant in a 616-620 tractor. I need to do something also. Tracy
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the 23hp briggs vanguard fits real nice oil cooler stays were it belongs hyd lines just clear.   motor mounts are simple 3x3 angle can give you all the part numbers for stub shaft and electric clutch,muffler and model, type ,code  there are no mods on the sheet metal the 720 we done the customer said that he has all the power he needs plus more he has loader and tillers and plows and its twice as quiet as the old engine
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clutch pulley has to be bored and broached for key at machine shop
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Could you send me the parts numbers to install the 23 horse briggs.
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What about a Honda repower? Tracy
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we was going to do a gx 690 22hp 0r a gx660 21hp in a 720 but we were haveing troble finding stub shafts and the muffler option was not right so we have the briggs figured out i have seen place back in ohio ithink that has a kit for a 720 with a honda but they cut a hole in the grill for the exahuast and it looked like they missed the first time also they will not sell motor mounts or the clutch pulley or anything unless you purchase the motor from them yesterday i got to meet our new honda rep. and he had a catalog on honda options he is getting me one he told me honda will not publish any of that kind of stuff because it is altering the emmisions but when we get to do some ones i will really consider it with this new info
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I would really like to try a Honda engine. Making the stb shafts and mounts are no problem. Tracy
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Tracy,
Might be something good to get into to design. You could come up with a nice kit for folks to do a Honda transplant!
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Steve, I just wonder which Honda would fit with little to no modification on tractor frame or sheet metal. Tracy
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My 616 was repowered with a Kohler Magnum 20 engine. Only modifications needed was to hood to allow exhaust clearance.
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Originally posted by accoll accoll wrote:

My 616 was repowered with a Kohler Magnum 20 engine. Only modifications needed was to hood to allow exhaust clearance.
 Post a pic of the transplant. I would like to see opther brands as well. Thanks Tracy
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i am working on the m18 in my own because i have the engine you probly only had to trim the baffle in side the hood i also have a pump i am going to see if i can mount directly on the crank with out interfering with the battery but probly have to mount under and use the electric clutch and belt  
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