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Big Al in Great Lakes Tugboat

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    Posted: 25 Aug 2016 at 1:43am
Checkout the Big Al engine in this Great Lakes Tugboat.

http://detroit.craigslist.org/mcb/boa/5684421104.html
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Not a "Big Al" but, a 21,000 series engine with a water cooled exhaust manifold.
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Originally posted by ACjack ACjack wrote:

Not a "Big Al" but, a 21,000 series engine with a water cooled exhaust manifold.

Ok. Please share how you can tell the difference.
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Wonder what that would cost to move to Lake Rathbun Iowa? 5' prop would really stir up the fish!
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Someone should buy the tug and have refitted into a yacht. I've seen it done before.
Nothing is impossible if it is properly financed
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Shameless could buy that, and cruise around off the coast of Nebraska
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That one's been up, a while, must want too much, fer it...
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lmao....good one creston!
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  Big Al was the truck engine. The vast majority made were the 25000 engine and very few (almost none) were the 21000. They were painted either purple or dove gray. Engines painted purple went to Frieghtliner and the ones painted dove gray were shipped to Kenworth. No engines from the Harvey engine plant were "private" sale. All were sold to Frieghtliner, Kenworth or warranty replacement.
  At the Harvey engine plant there was a department (department 76) called Commercial Products. That department outfitted various engines for commercial use as ordered from AC dealers. Some engines were ordered for use in a marine environment or a closed in space and those got the water cooled exhaust manifold. As I remember the engines for marine use were sent/ sold to Gray Marine.
  In the mid 70's I was the inspector in that department and a unit couldn't be shipped till I inspected it and passed it.
  
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Still impressive to see one that remains in viable service.  I remember the Big Al series and at the last of the 80's the issues with finding repair parts so a great deal of the Big Al series were transplanted with Cummins or Cats, sorry to say I had done two such conversions in the late 80's with the old engines worn slick placed in trade skids for a core value that I know ended with a scrap pile.
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Originally posted by ACjack ACjack wrote:

  Big Al was the truck engine. The vast majority made were the 25000 engine and very few (almost none) were the 21000. They were painted either purple or dove gray. Engines painted purple went to Frieghtliner and the ones painted dove gray were shipped to Kenworth. No engines from the Harvey engine plant were "private" sale. All were sold to Frieghtliner, Kenworth or warranty replacement.
  At the Harvey engine plant there was a department (department 76) called Commercial Products. That department outfitted various engines for commercial use as ordered from AC dealers. Some engines were ordered for use in a marine environment or a closed in space and those got the water cooled exhaust manifold. As I remember the engines for marine use were sent/ sold to Gray Marine.
  In the mid 70's I was the inspector in that department and a unit couldn't be shipped till I inspected it and passed it.
  


ACJack, I really appreciate your shared knowledge & personal AC employment experience - Thank you. I have only read that AC marketed the 6138I(25,000), 6138t( 21,000H), 6138LT(17,000), 670t(3500), 649t(2900), & 433t(2300) engines for trucks(only a few engines - 6138 & 670?) and commercial (marine, mines, generators, stationary PU, pumps, etc..). I belove the 670 was offered for small delivery truck engines. Was there any other engines offered by AC for truck and/or commercial marketing??
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ACJack, I really appreciate your shared knowledge & personal AC employment experience - Thank you. I have only read that AC marketed the 6138I(25,000), 6138t( 21,000H), 6138LT(17,000), 670t(3500), 649t(2900), & 433t(2300) engines for trucks(only a few engines - 6138 & 670?) and commercial (marine, mines, generators, stationary PU, pumps, etc..). I belove the 670 was offered for small delivery truck engines. Was there any other engines offered by AC for truck and/or commercial marketing?? 

Not sure of what was "marketed" for truck use but, while I was the inspector for commercial products (74-76) the only ones that I OK'd for shipment were the Big Al's (25000 & 21000) and a few 3500 and if I remember correctly those were shipped to Milwaukee to power some garbage trucks for the city.
 Every engine series that was built at the Harvey plant was offered for "commercial" sale to AC dealers. They were configured for just about kind of use. 
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Well the link above says the posting has expired... guess Shameless musta got it...
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